Well I am glad that my actions will determine the outcome of a scenario. Not sure if that's a brag still. They just added voice lines to a mission.
Beyond Final Chapter: Where's The New Gameplay Aside From Planet Mapping?
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Well I am glad that my actions will determine the outcome of a scenario. Not sure if that's a brag still. They just added voice lines to a mission.
The one potential problem with the scenarios that I see, is that it's quite possible that you are not in the right ship most of the time a scenario encounter happens. It won't do much good if you run into a megaship under attack if you're flying a freighter, miner or passenger ship at that time.
It's difficult to treat someone who is deliberately trolling you with respect, but it's probably better to not reply at all rather than feeding it.
Anyway, I'll try it as respectful as it gets:
@OP
Your conclusion that Beyond Q4 doesn't add more new gameplay than mapping planets is based on the fact that the first livestream didn't show much more (apart from the stuff others already pointed out). You are ignoring that we've only seen the first of four livestreams and that several other new gameplay mechanics have already been hinted, by FDEV, by the gaming media and by the Dirty 17. So your conclusion that Q4 will not add more than mapping planets gameplay wise is pretty likely to be wrong, and your inability to admit it is what's causing people to believe you are a troll.
Probably a good reason to prepare a bit and be more all-round, if you want to partake.
No they didn't.
https://www.techopedia.com/definition/1911/gameplay
Lots of gameplay presented in the first livestream.
Well, we have the:-From the livestream it seems the only new gameplay mechanic in the final chapter of Beyond is mapping a planet. And you can even do that with friends too yay! Sounds thrilling.The other new bits coming in this release seem to only change the way in which you play with existing mechanics mostly adding time and mouse clicks for the same end results. USS's could even be worse being described as on timers and disappearing which sounds more like a buggy race maybe - hard to say for sure until we see the beta.
So, anyone see any other real new gameplay items?
- BGS and Scenario Interactions reveal – 25 October (tomorrow) : I don't expect much from this TBH, except yet more art heavy, gameplay-light stuff
- Mining and Squadrons reveal - 1 November: I'd suggest this one will most likely be the significant one, especially if they link into exploration with HOTSPOTS WHICH ARE RARE, STATEFUL AND VALUABLE!
- The Ships – 8 November: Just new ships? ZZZzzz...
And although Fleet Carriers for Squadrons are not in this release, when they arrive they also could (SHOULD) offer more involved gameplay if they sensibly tie into other game mechanics. eg: A Fleet Carrier can be called into a hotspot to make a claim on it, so only that Squadron can mine there.
It's easy to throw out the "troll card" when others have different opinions. But take the question seriously, and you'll have a hard time answering it. New features have been added yet the core gameplay itself - the thing that was touted as being addressed this year - remains essentially the same. The replies here keep pointing out new features that make doing the same thing as before either more time consuming or, frankly, more clumsy or difficult.
Let's look at exploration and it's core gameplay:
- player in ship > scan > get credits
Expand upon it:
- player in ship > jump to (new/existing) system > use ADS to scan system > optionally scan individual planets using DSS > return to station board > get credits
That sums up what has been in the game for exploration where, aside from taking screenshots, what else does one do other than hand-in system info for credits? So take things from here and help describe what else has been developed for exploration in Beyond other than adding new features = new steps to the existing simple gameplay of 'scan and get credits'? These exploration changes remind me of the recent mission board changes where new steps were added to accept, load, unload, etc., but nothing changed to the actual mission trading gameplay itself. To many it simply added grind-time more than being something beneficial.
Okay, so what would one expect as new gameplay? The ideas here are endless and really only up to the imagination of the developers and what the code can support.
Anyway, as always this is just another opinion perhaps shared by 2.8% or more of the Elite customers.
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Also, don't forget that scenarios have a timed persistence.
It's easy to throw out the "troll card" when others have different opinions. But take the question seriously, and you'll have a hard time answering it. New features have been added yet the core gameplay itself - the thing that was touted as being addressed this year - remains essentially the same. The replies here keep pointing out new features that make doing the same thing as before either more time consuming or, frankly, more clumsy or difficult.
Let's look at exploration and it's core gameplay:
- player in ship > scan > get credits
Expand upon it:
- player in ship > jump to (new/existing) system > use ADS to scan system > optionally scan individual planets using DSS > return to station board > get credits
That sums up what has been in the game for exploration where, aside from taking screenshots, what else does one do other than hand-in system info for credits? So take things from here and help describe what else has been developed for exploration in Beyond other than adding new features = new steps to the existing simple gameplay of 'scan and get credits'? These exploration changes remind me of the recent mission board changes where new steps were added to accept, load, unload, etc., but nothing changed to the actual mission trading gameplay itself. To many it simply added grind-time more than being something beneficial.
Okay, so what would one expect as new gameplay? The ideas here are endless and really only up to the imagination of the developers and what the code can support.
Anyway, as always this is just another opinion perhaps shared by 2.8% or more of the Elite customers.
It's also easy to ignore everyone who disagrees with your opinion, but it doesn't make it a good discussion.
Why did you necro your 6 week old thread? I appreciate the reminder of your hilariously dopey "I've only watched 1 of 4 livestreams, where's the stuff?" OP text.
I don't know - it is tempting to necro dopey threads (though I'm surprised OP did it to himself!). There was a particularly funny one advocating ED to get Fallout 76's C&P system - another classic in the I wonder why FDev doesn't listen to the forums? series
Necro... for a 4 week old thread? Errr… okay... But, if it helps, this was the first time I've been online and back to these forums in awhile. So a follow-up seemed appropriate especially since beta is over and now we know what's coming for the most part.
You've been posting comments on these forums almost every day for the past 6 weeks. Do you not remember?
LOL okay, I posted once on 12/1 then once before that one on 11/25. But you're right. I've been like a mad beaver posting on here every hour for weeks as you have implied. Anyway, is there a forum rule for when a post is considered be necro'd? In most forums a few weeks would not be considered a necro. But please enlighten us.
Back OT: haven't seen comments helping describe all the new gameplay which is too bad as I hoped I had simply missed out on all the big changes. This Q4 release was the big one for Beyond - the one everyone pointed to all year as having the significant gameplay changes coming to the game. But it seems as though there's been very few actual gameplay additions which is too bad.
It depends very much on what is meant by gameplay. It means different things to different people, and probably something else to devs too.
Ziggy's post #66 goes some way to helping with this. But it still is likely to mean different things to different players.
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Take my advice: leave.
You’ve not actually defined what sort of gameplay you want or expect, but if next week’s update doesn’t provide the gameplay you want, it never will.
Don’t waste any more of your (or our) time.
There isn't any new gameplay... You may as well accept it, the game is Doomedtm and no longer worth playing or commenting on. [haha]
(there, you must feel better now)
Kubicide is clearly right here. Only exploration has been tweaked with this update 3.3. The mining, codex, scenarios, etc are all figments of our overactive imaginations. They do not exist and never will.
I love denying reality, it's fun.
I love denying reality, it's fun.