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Have you used a Vulture like that recently? I started with a mix of HRPs and MRPs like that, but i still got my canopy blown out. I found that I need at leat the two biggest MRPs to prevent that. Also, it's not so much about survival. It's a pain having to keep going back to the station to get a new canopy when you're doing undermining, CZs or RES farming.
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And that is precisely the type of advise I need. All this thread is very useful for me but looks like bi-waves have more supporters than standard A-rated stuff... Good reading. Thanks all for the input!
I am a newb. Not going to claim otherwise. I am just starting in LowRES to get the taste of combat. I may try HighRES next week. So far it is not bad but I already see that I need to change few things on my Python... I am not min/max-ing really. I like to have flexibility... And I am not PvP pilot. I would die within few seconds
If you're doing a lot of back to back fights with short downtime (as is usually the case bounty hunting, or even CZs) then biweaves are the way. If you're going for one big fight such as assassinations, or you're a trader that wants their shields to hold long enough to highwake, then A-rated or prismatics.
If you're flying a hulltank then it's a matter of choice. Most of the time when I'm pirating I'm not going after combat fit ships so I pack a prismatic with the goal of finishing any fight I'm in, one way or the other, before they collapse.
If you're flying a hulltank then it's a matter of choice. Most of the time when I'm pirating I'm not going after combat fit ships so I pack a prismatic with the goal of finishing any fight I'm in, one way or the other, before they collapse.
Ofc they are better for combat builds and for mission runners that might get into combat every 1-2 minutes.
An A-rated shield will not recharge that fast.
Also one more tip: Shield recharging is twice as fast in supercruise
Didn't know that...
Long range weapons are more accurate than what you have, plus they do a lot more damage most of the time, except when you're close.I've added the second MRP after noticing the canopy issues and didn't have any problems since. Got pretty beaten up by a deadly Anaconda yesterday and the little bug tanked it quite well, I was surprised.
How do you determine 'enough' module protection? Like was said before the Vultures OC powerplant sits at only 66 integrity, are the MRP's integrity points added to that?
Also, I am still confused about the 'hybrid' thing... I am guessing that means a mix of hull and shield tank, correct? And can the Vulture work like that or rather not?
Despite what the theory says, like you found out too, against NPCs you need the two largest MRPs in a Vulture to stop the cannopy getting blown out.
yeah, common sense is not to go over 60% or so, diminishing returns apply after some point and it becomes not module-efficient anymore.This caught my attention, as I noticed recently that I have a pretty sub-par setup on my vulture with negative thermal resistance
Tried what you suggested above and got some impressive resistance values, at the cost of half the raw shield strength but sitting at a recovery time of just 1:25 minutes... Is there a softcap on resistances though? Got some at almost 70%
This was for me the majority of the fun of combat. Learning -> trying -> learning some more -> repeat.
The degress of res didn't seem to make much of a difference apart from the ships that spawn in them. If you find yourself unlucky and in a res where you have to wait around for minutes between targets go to another system. Its changed over time though.
Also... you kinda picked a hard one with the python... if you're just starting out, especially in the easier res spawning small targets, try a vulture! Going back to being a noob, any time i flew a python i always get shredded to pieces in no time. Having said, ive never combat outfitted one, just multipurpose (with a combat shield).
EDIT: One of the biggest tips in combat though: all the advice you read and may receive about specifics is subjective. Nearly all of it is assuming you're in a small ship, or something that flies like it. As soon the ship itself starts being a challenge, min maxing completely changes because you have factor in uptime as well. If you try things you get told to do and it doesn't work or is a complete misery, this is why.
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Just by changing the Heavy duty shield booster into Resistance augmented - you could maintain the same shield values, but lower the recovery rate by 6 seconds (74 seconds vs 80 seconds), and lower the recharge rate to 147 seconds from 160 seconds). Keeping the guardian shield boosters is obviously your choice, I am not saying it is always like that, but sometimes people think Heavy duty is the best disregarding the shield type and shield goal.
(Mostly PVE, since usually npc do have missiles and they do use them)
Well, when it comes to shields, some players seem to value alot the recover from broken state - hence lots of recommendations for thermal shields.
I simply dont. Because i dont expect to lose shields and if i lose shields it means a single thing: it's bail out time. So the recovery time does not matter.
Sure this changes if i play hull tanks with minimal shields, but i usually dont do that - i put a lot of shields even on Alliance C-ships
Mostly because of missiles spam and those pesky rail Eagles, Cobras and Diamonds
Things to concentrate in the high RES. Always target the powerplants of big ships, especially Anacondas. Always check Gunships and Anacondas (Kraits and Crusaders too, but they're not so common) to see if they,re carrying a fighter before opening fire. If those ships are already fighting the police, the fighter will be lurking and it'll get you from behind the moment you open fire. The best practice is to deal with the fighter first as soon as it leaves the mothership if you can, otherwise you have to decide whether you want to tank the fighter while you finish the mothership. That's sometimes a better way if there are a lot of police shooting the mothership.I am a newb. Not going to claim otherwise. I am just starting in LowRES to get the taste of combat. I may try HighRES next week. So far it is not bad but I already see that I need to change few things on my Python... I am not min/max-ing really. I like to have flexibility... And I am not PvP pilot. I would die within few seconds
I made a beginners video on how to use a Vulture in the high RES with some tactics you can use. It was with an unengineered one, so I had to be more careful about choosing targets. If you're new to combat, you'll probably get a lot from it.
Nice, I know this video very well. Gave you like for it. Was using it as a combat101 guide...
By switching to a third resistance booster I lose nearly 100mj of raw strength (depending on SB experimentals), meaning I loose a higher percentage of my shield to both ramming, which I do quite often, and PAs, which NPCs are quite good at landing. Both are mainly or completely absolute damage, so resistances are useless.
Shield goal and all that.
I've been studying ramming today and yesterday. What I've noticed is that it nearly always happens when I have zero pips to shields, and when I manage to get 4 pips to shields before the collision, they always miss. I've got a feeling this is programmed in to the AI, that ramming is avoided if you have 4 pips and attracted if you have zero.By switching to a third resistance booster I lose nearly 100mj of raw strength (depending on SB experimentals), meaning I loose a higher percentage of my shield to both ramming, which I do quite often, and PAs, which NPCs are quite good at landing. Both are mainly or completely absolute damage, so resistances are useless.
Shield goal and all that.
I use Enh Lo-Power biweaves on my smugglers and AX ships to keep the heat signature below 15%. (also the T-9 due to heat management issues)
If I do run into multiple opponents I might have to kite them a bit to restore my shields, though this isn't a major problem.
With explorers I'll run D-rated for weight.
I might go A-rated on a big combat ship (Corvette or T-10) for max tankiness.
Can't be @{$£) with going through powerplay for prismatics.
If I do run into multiple opponents I might have to kite them a bit to restore my shields, though this isn't a major problem.
With explorers I'll run D-rated for weight.
I might go A-rated on a big combat ship (Corvette or T-10) for max tankiness.
Can't be @{$£) with going through powerplay for prismatics.