BREAKING NEWS: The Code lost Orrere, Tvasus, and Zaonce!

[Jaiotu]

Perhaps operating as a Minor Faction simply was never in Code's best interests? For some groups maintaining a system, expanding and increasing influence is exactly the game they want to play. Other groups are 100% powerplay and could care less about maintaining single systems. Code doesn't really seem to fit either of those descriptions. When they dominated the space around Lave Code was the group we all loved to hate. Their brand of piracy added a degree of legitimacy to the game. How many times did I negotiate for my life with several tons of rare goods? Plenty.

Trying to maintain one or more system when that isn't what you really enjoy about the game is a drag. Been there, done that. Wishing The Code well as they figure out where to go from here.

 

[Silk]

The way the game progressed pretty much killed piracy. The Code was founded on piracy and piracy alone. The group does not have as much of an impact as it used to within ED. We are still a group, just not fully invested in ED anymore.

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More false information spread. It was an 8v1 vs our Anaconda. We were anchored in and found 2 of your wings on top of ours. You popped while our Anaconda lived. As soon as you popped the rest of your boys left without a fight. A fight where The Code beat AA? Every single one.

Post the video then! Also, let's see the fights, particularly the last time you guys saw us in Eravate.. We get it man, you're upset. I'm not here to cause drama on the Forums, that's what the Reddit is for. The Code isn't known for beating AA and they CERTAINLY aren't the hardest group we've fought. We've fought larger and better organized groups in our time.. Code were good for attacking traders I guess.. They were good at wing anchoring I suppose.. These are now a dime a dozen and tons of groups do this for free fame. A group that specializes in killing those who essentially attack weak players (which we consider PvE) will be a better oiled machine. You're living in a past where things were just a little bit more unorganized.. Wings had just released.. Lugh was fresh.. An anaconda kill was to some a game defining event. I've moved on lmfao. Cya in AA territory!

 

[Agony_Aunt]

I'd like to say at this point, as a hardcore PvEer, its a shame that Code have lost interest in their piratical ways.

Out of all the PvP encounters I had with people when i used to play in Open, only Code members actually pirated me. Others just tried to blow me up without opening comms and without, as far as i could see, reason.

While i have had my issues with Code on occasion, and more specifically certain members, the idea of Code was a good one, and those who followed the code, provided good roleplay and interactions.

There are issues with PvP piracy in the game, its not a good game for it as its stands, and issues with PvP in general, but at least Code tried to do things in a good and entertaining way for their targets.

As much as it pains me to say it, Code, I salute you.

 

[Elethiomel Zakalwe]

You've only recently become PvP centric with the silent meta and currently are only able to compete in the PvP world due to the silent meta.

Really??? That's news to me.


"You guys were unable to do anything live, not staged and put on a platter for you. Whoever came to Eravate to fight you had to hold your hand and help you get into a PvP fight."

Also news to me. We don't do staged fights with our enemies. In fact, we don't even allow our members to have staged fights with our enemies in Eravate anymore.

Basically, go away troll. You've been out of the loop for so long that nothing you say has any relevance.

 

[Kewpa Eurus]

Perhaps operating as a Minor Faction simply was never in Code's best interests? For some groups maintaining a system, expanding and increasing influence is exactly the game they want to play. Other groups are 100% powerplay and could care less about maintaining single systems. Code doesn't really seem to fit either of those descriptions. When they dominated the space around Lave Code was the group we all loved to hate. Their brand of piracy added a degree of legitimacy to the game. How many times did I negotiate for my life with several tons of rare goods? Plenty.

Trying to maintain one or more system when that isn't what you really enjoy about the game is a drag. Been there, done that. Wishing The Code well as they figure out where to go from here.

It was our dive into PvE. You are right, it was never meant for us. We had players willing to commit to the grind and players who could care less. It was something we could not realistically maintain. It actually cause a small rift within the group as players felt that they were forced into participating in something they had no interest in, one of the reasons why we left it the way it was and never looked back.

 

[WR3ND]

The way the game progressed pretty much killed piracy. The Code was founded on piracy and piracy alone. The group does not have as much of an impact as it used to within ED. We are still a group, just not fully invested in ED anymore.
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Thanks for the clarification. I had my suspicions of something along those lines.

I'm primarily an explorer in the game, though I'll occasionally help out with CGs in the off chance I'm around for them, so I generally just avoid PVP when in open, but the risk of it being there does at least make it somewhat exciting and adds to a sense of accomplishment, even though there really isn't all that much risk, if you're not a newbie that doesn't know what they're doing. Even with the small bit of rares trading I did when starting out, I never could understand traders holding up in those buckets of ships.

 

[Defector]

I don't have an affiliation with anyone in this thread, but I can't believe this thread has been allowed to go as far as it has. I will say, I've only had good experiences with the code. They're proper pirates. I don't know any personally, but every single encounter with them has been pleasant and enjoyable. They always talked to me when they interdicted me, and it was a fun encounter. If I didn't have any cargo, I went on my way. Heck, I actually felt bad when I didn't have anything for them to pirate. I hope we see their presence in game again! At the very least, it'll give someone for the other PVP groups to fight. We need villains as much as we need heroes.

 

[Kewpa Eurus]

Really??? That's news to me.


"You guys were unable to do anything live, not staged and put on a platter for you. Whoever came to Eravate to fight you had to hold your hand and help you get into a PvP fight."

Also news to me. We don't do staged fights with our enemies. In fact, we don't even allow our members to have staged fights with our enemies in Eravate anymore.

Basically, go away troll. You've been out of the loop for so long that nothing you say has any relevance.

You sure about that?

Here's a fight where we had to deal with your nonsense and let you organize, instance up, and prep yourselves. You can clearly see in the beginning of the battle that both parties were sitting there staring at each other in the face, per AA request. This is the first time I've ever had to do this with a "PvP" group.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ4Tjw761Zw

The video I posted in response to Silk has "enemies" in your TS (Kinmob and Allerose) fighting for you, that we graciously let you have to even out the teams for you.

That night was the most hassle we ever had to deal with to get some PvP in. Most groups would go live, jump in and anchor live. No talking, no negotiating, none of the non sense we had to deal with to fight you.

 

[Kewpa Eurus]

Post the video then! Also, let's see the fights, particularly the last time you guys saw us in Eravate.. We get it man, you're upset. I'm not here to cause drama on the Forums, that's what the Reddit is for. The Code isn't known for beating AA and they CERTAINLY aren't the hardest group we've fought. We've fought larger and better organized groups in our time.. Code were good for attacking traders I guess.. They were good at wing anchoring I suppose.. These are now a dime a dozen and tons of groups do this for free fame. A group that specializes in killing those who essentially attack weak players (which we consider PvE) will be a better oiled machine. You're living in a past where things were just a little bit more unorganized.. Wings had just released.. Lugh was fresh.. An anaconda kill was to some a game defining event. I've moved on lmfao. Cya in AA territory!

You guys had almost a year to practice before this fight happened. Tactics used to this day are tactics developed by The Code and it was funny to see PvP groups adapt our tactics as they saw them unfold on our streams.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ4Tjw761Zw ----"Decisive Victory" - Cap'n Murica 3301----

Annnnnd this is what happens in your TS when your men are unorganized and not fit for combat against PvP veterans like The Code.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJlX-kGA3Kw

I mean you guys are great at silent running with stacked heat sinks I guess. You guys are great at farming reloads and premium ammo, I guess...I bow out of this "argument" with you. As always it will always go in circles with you as you spin your web.

 

[DaveB]

The Code have been, ever since before the games release, the best pirates in the game. I've had encounters with them as an armed trader where win or lose we both left respecting an honorable opponent.

It's all about the respect. An opponent you cannot respect is simply an enemy and there is no honor in killing them or being killed by them.

The Code have never been that way with me and so my respect for them is intact. They've beaten me more often than I've beaten them, and on several occasions we've negotiated our respective ways out of there with no shots fired.

I would hate to see that experience of piracy (from the targets side) change in this game.

 

[Mohrgan]

You guys had almost a year to practice before this fight happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQ4Tjw761Zw

"Decisive Victory" - Cap'n Murica 3301

I bow out of this "argument" with you. As always it will always go in circles with you as you spin your web.

Oct. 28, 2015? I can hear 'Glory Days" playing in the back of my head.

 

[Kewpa Eurus]

Oct. 28, 2015? I can hear 'Glory Days" playing in the back of my head.

Yup, last time we even bothered to fight AA in Eravate since it was such a hassle. Unfortunately we don't have more recent footage as they could not be found outside their bubble until the silent meta gave them the confidence to. After that, we decided AA still needed practice and moved on to fight our own friends, as they offered the challenge we craved. It was great to see a few of their members join SDC in their fight against us in Kaushpoos though. They probably learned a lot from SDC.

Funny thing is, Silk was nowhere to be found other then forums and subreddits back then and that fact remains true to this very date. Hmm.

Boggles my mind how a "leader" would talk about PvP and war fare as he were a warlord, but has been found incapable or absent of leading his men into war. A leader of "Bounty Hunters" that is incapable of conducting a hunt.

I'm done talking about Silk and AA, though. Once again he manages to force AA into a discussion that doesn't involve him and his group. Mission accomplished.

 

[Silk]

Yup, last time we even bothered to fight AA in Eravate since it was such a hassle. Unfortunately we don't have more recent footage as they could not be found outside their bubble until the silent meta gave them the confidence to. After that, we decided AA still needed practice and moved on to fight our own friends, as they offered the challenge we craved. It was great to see a few of their members join SDC in their fight against us in Kaushpoos though. They probably learned a lot from SDC.

Funny thing is, Silk was nowhere to be found other then forums and subreddits back then and that fact remains true to this very date. Hmm.

Boggles my mind how a "leader" would talk about PvP and war fare as he were a warlord, but has been found incapable or absent of leading his men into war. A leader of "Bounty Hunters" that is incapable of conducting a hunt.

I'm done talking about Silk and AA, though. Once again he manages to force AA into a discussion that doesn't involve him and his group. Mission accomplished.

Hilarious! I still play DAILY. What can be said for you and your group, or hell, even yourself. Just because I don't have the time in my life to be in every cutting edge PvP video that you deem suitable, does not mean that I do not play daily and conduct daily operations for and with my group. We've learned a long time ago that we didn't need to post a video every single time a bear poops in the woods.

Ask any of my guys, I'm still around daily. Once again, you get upset over an observation that I made about the misnomer that PvP groups don't work their BGS. Don't like it? Deal with it.. It's not going to ruin my day. You see me on Reddit and the Forums a lot because I like having conversation and I'm not in game 24/7, so there ARE times in-between.

 

[GluttonyFang]

Yup, last time we even bothered to fight AA in Eravate since it was such a hassle. Unfortunately we don't have more recent footage as they could not be found outside their bubble until the silent meta gave them the confidence to. After that, we decided AA still needed practice and moved on to fight our own friends, as they offered the challenge we craved. It was great to see a few of their members join SDC in their fight against us in Kaushpoos though. They probably learned a lot from SDC.

Funny thing is, Silk was nowhere to be found other then forums and subreddits back then and that fact remains true to this very date. Hmm.

Boggles my mind how a "leader" would talk about PvP and war fare as he were a warlord, but has been found incapable or absent of leading his men into war. A leader of "Bounty Hunters" that is incapable of conducting a hunt.

I'm done talking about Silk and AA, though. Once again he manages to force AA into a discussion that doesn't involve him and his group. Mission accomplished.

As the Ambassador of The Code, I approve this message and what Kewpa has been posting on this thread.

No disrespect to Silk, but I think AA is stepping over the line claiming to be more of a PvP group than ourselves when evidence clearly states otherwise.

 

[Kewpa Eurus]

Hilarious! I still play DAILY. What can be said for you and your group, or hell, even yourself. Just because I don't have the time in my life to be in every cutting edge PvP video that you deem suitable, does not mean that I do not play daily and conduct daily operations for and with my group. We've learned a long time ago that we didn't need to post a video every single time a bear poops in the woods.

Ask any of my guys, I'm still around daily. Once again, you get upset over an observation that I made about the misnomer that PvP groups don't work their BGS. Don't like it? Deal with it.. It's not going to ruin my day. You see me on Reddit and the Forums a lot because I like having conversation and I'm not in game 24/7, so there ARE times in-between.

"You" play daily. Just some observations the Open community have about you as a whole. Don't like it? Deal with it.

Sure I had to take a hiatus from the game, but since coming back I've been at every CG heavily. It was nice to see your boys at the CG, briefly. Still havn't seen you yet! They tried getting some Kewpa Kill footage but were met with what we call "Maximum Disrespect"...Low waking on people who are mass locking you. Send your boys out to fly with SDC some more, they are versed in killing me.

I'm not upset, just don't see why you need to strong arm your group and your name into a discussion that doesn't involve you, while at the same time taking a jab at our organization. Typical.

 

[Lowievisser]

breaking lol

 

[Silk]

"You" play daily. Just some observations the Open community have about you as a whole. Don't like it? Deal with it.

I'm not upset, just don't see why you need to strong arm your group and your name into a discussion that doesn't involve you, while at the same time taking a jab at our organization. Typical.

I know that this is going to come as a surprise to you, but I'm allowed to talk about whatever I like and my comment (which wasn't in reply to you) that was completely on topic was about how some PvP groups work the BGS and how we were given them TO be worked. I only mentioned my group as an example and didn't even push any propaganda. YOU are the one that replied with a novel.

Every single topic I make has other groups talking smack in them too, it happens.

 

[Kewpa Eurus]

I know that this is going to come as a surprise to you, but I'm allowed to talk about whatever I like and my comment (which wasn't in reply to you) that was completely on topic was about how some PvP groups work the BGS and how we were given them TO be worked. I only mentioned my group as an example and didn't even push any propaganda. YOU are the one that replied with a novel.

Aye Lmao, I got the same rights to write what I want when I want. If you really don't understand that you've once again pushed yourself and AA into a conversation that does not involve you, while taking a jab at our organization when the vibes were good, you have some serious issues.

You have a habit of this, my man. This is one reason the Open Community laughs at you and your group.

You consider a few paragraphs a novel? I can get you some proper literature if you desire. Kindly bow out as I will. You've derailed the thread enough.

 

[Silk]

Aye Lmao, I got the same rights to write what I want when I want. If you really don't understand that you've once again pushed yourself and AA into a conversation that does not involve you, while taking a jab at our organization when the vibes were good, you have some serious issues.

You have a habit of this, my man. This is one reason the Open Community laughs at you and your group.

You consider a few paragraphs a novel? I can get you some proper literature if you desire.

It's a good thing Kewpa speaks for all of open play now. I'll have to add that to my signature!

Who's open in your opinion? You and the four cry babies on your TS? You are aware of how big we are and how many allies we have right? Meh.. I guess I'd resort to a baseless ad hominem attack too if I was in your situation. We're getting off topic now, let's get back to how PvE players beat the code in their own system. Rather ironic IMO.

 

[Kewpa Eurus]

I have had many...many...many interactions with CODE. My view of them has gone in the opposite direction than most players would assume. See....i am a trader at heart...and many many CODE members (old CODE) know me as such. CODE was (and still is) my arch nemeses as a TRADER. They have tried (sometimes successfully) to kill me (because i would not give up cargo...my own fault). One thing I have always loved about the interactions is it made me better as a pilot. My hatred of CODE went from absolute to circumstantial. In the beginning if CODE was doing something I opposed it with vehement opposition any way I could. Biggest example would be the WOLF DIAMONDBACK CG. But I got VERY VERY bored with trade...BUT I HAD MONEY...AT THE TIME....LOTS OF IT... so i built a shield tank python (great meta for the time) and ran down to Delaine space at the beginning of PP. Had some amazing (and pocket painful) interactions with PvP pilots from all sides..CODE being the most prevalent enemy. BUT....I became half way decent because of the guns CODE and associates bared against my Python. There are even videos of this hard core trader teaming up with CODE members just for the pure enjoyment of the PvP xpierence. CODE was, are and always will be villains ...but they did have a CODE....or at least tried to. I feel the game mechanics are more to blame than anything in the fall of the CODE. I miss their presence at CG's...those that have not the xp in that don't understand what I am talking about...but CODE does...it was not a slaughter fest...it was truly game immersion....cargo scans....disabling (not killing) ships...with a pass if you paid the fine...or not if you had the soccerballs to oppose it.

FROM A HARDCORE TRADER!!!

I MISS CODE!

I WILL STILL KICK YOUR DONKEY WHEN I CAN....BUT....IT WAS FUN!!!!

DEATHMAGNET

o7 Cheers to you CMDR and your trader life style. We appreciate traders like you and give such traders as much respect as possible. It's a tough life style when anything and everything can prey on you.

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It's a good thing Kewpa speaks for all of open play now. I'll have to add that to my signature!

Who's open? You and we cry babies on your TS? You are aware of how big we are and how many allies we have right? Meh.. I guess I'd resort to an ad hominem too if I was in your situation. We're getting off topic now, let's get back to how PvE players beat the code in their own system. Rather ironic IMO.

We all know that Majinvash is "The Voice of Open". Yes let's get back to how we stepped away from the poker table and left our chips, simply because we were too rich to care. [cool] You mean PvE players beat PvP players in PvE while the PvP players were off doing PvP things not giving two squirts of number 1 about the BGS, laughing at the hours being poured into deleting a name off some systems that had no effect or benefit to us? Got us!

My situation is just fine. I'm flying freely around every CG, with no Player Bounty Hunters stopping me our my friends. [cool]

No one knows anything about AA due to the amount of propaganda you spew.

Really though, I'm done.