Hmm. Can I be satisfied with the fastest unsuccessful attempt, or do I keep trying in a ship that probably can't quite catch the DBXs? It would have been a sufficiently good time back in March! Hmmmm.
Community Event / Creation Buckyball Racing Club presents: The Black Riband
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I'd say that any class record is more than satisfactory, especially one that's the fast "unsuccessful attempt."
The Bootlegger Challenge Rebootlegged will have a more traditional full leaderboard, listing fastest runs for each CMDR/ship class - as well as a separate set of Current Holder / Previous Holders / Unsuccessful runs list for valid Black Riband runs. So hopefully it won't feel as bad to be "unsuccessful."
As a preview, here's the rules section for the new event, including the three sub-events, without any spoilers of the actual route and smuggling requirements.
After some thought I switched back to a minimum of 1 hour between a Black Riband declaration and the run beginning, for the same reasons that Jhyrryl mentioned. The max of one Black Riband run per CMDR/ship combo per day is for the same reason. To add a little one-shot / ironman atmosphere to Black Riband entries.
NOTE: these rules all only apply to the upcoming Bootlegger Challenge Rebootlegged event, and should not be mistaken for rules for this existing Black Riband event (which will be renamed the Black Riband Classic when the updated event goes live in 2.4)
The Bootlegger Challenge
The Black Riband II
Little Nuk's Booze Cruise Tours
Fat Tony's Cobra Classic
NOTE: these rules all only apply to the upcoming Bootlegger Challenge Rebootlegged event, and should not be mistaken for rules for this existing Black Riband event (which will be renamed the Black Riband Classic when the updated event goes live in 2.4)
The Bootlegger Challenge
- Bootlegger Challenge entries can be made in any game mode (open / private / solo).
- Runs made outside of open mode will be designated as simulated runs on the leaderboard.
- The Bootlegger Challenge leaderboard will list each CMDRs fastest run.
- One leaderboard entry per CMDR is permitted for each class of ship in the game.
- Specialist runs (Black Riband, Booze Cruise & Cobra Classic - see below) will all be treated equally on the main leaderboard and will not permit additional entries, as each specialist event has it's own special leaderboards.
- All Bootlegger Challenge runs must be pre-declared, but only Black Riband runs require a pre-declared start time.
- The declaration should be made in this thread, and should include: CMDR Name, Ship Name, Ship Class and game mode (open/private/solo).
- The run can begin immediately after the declaration.
- A completed run submission must be made within 8 hours of the declaration.
- If no submission is received within 48 hours of the declaration, then the run will be considered DNF (did not finish).
- Use of FSD jumponium synthesis is not permitted
- Use of FSD boosts by neutron star / white dwarf superchanging is permitted, but "precharging" by a double boost before a run is not.
The Black Riband II
- All Black Riband runs must also be valid Bootlegger Challenge runs and must comply with all of those rules in addition to the rules below.
- All Black Riband runs must be in open mode.
- A valid Black Riband entry may also be valid for as a Booze Cruise and/or Cobra Classic entry if the criteria of either of those events is also met.
- All Black Riband runs must be declared in this thread in advance of starting the run.
- The declaration must be made no more than 24 hours and no less than 1 hour before the attempt.
- The declaration must include: CMDR Name, Ship Class, Ship Name, Start Time.
- The declared start time for your run will be the time used to calculate the duration of your run, your launch screenshot must include the station clock showing this time & date or later.
- If your run fails or is aborted, please provide a short description of what went wrong.
- At least 24 hours must pass between declared Black Riband runs by the same CMDR in the same ship class - multiple runs in different ship classes are permitted within 24 hours.
- All Black Riband runs will be listed on the list of current / previous holders and unsuccessful runs - this will include all DNF attempts.
- In addition each CMDR's fastest attempt in each ship class will be listed on the Bootlegger Challenge overall leaderboard (and will be marked as a Black Riband attempt).
Little Nuk's Booze Cruise Tours
- All Booze Cruise runs must also be valid Bootlegger Challenge runs and must comply with all of those rules in addition to the rules below.
- Booze Cruise runs can optionally also be Black Riband and/or Cobra Classic runs if you wish - although use of dedicated passenger liner ships is encouraged.
- The following module restrictions apply:
- Compulsory Module: 1 Cargo Rack
- Optional Module: 1 Fuel Scoop OR 1 Extra Fuel Tank
- Optional Module: 1 Shield Generator OR Hull Reinforcement Module OR Module Reinforcement Module
- Optional Module: 1 SLF Hangar OR Shield Cell Bank OR Detailed Surface Scanner
- Optional Module: 1 Discovery Scanner
- Compulsory Modules: ALL remaining modules must be equipped with Passenger Modules - any size / class is permitted.
- All passenger modules must be occupied at the start of the run. Screenshots of each mission from the transaction tab must be provided.
- Booze Cruise Runs are then ranked using the following scores:
- Base Score: 4000 points.
- Every full second less than 90 minutes +1 point
- Every full second more than 90 minutes -1 point
- Passenger Satisfaction(per cabin): Happy +300 points
- Passenger Satisfaction(per cabin): Content -60 points
- Passenger Satisfaction(per cabin): Unhappy -300 points
- Passenger Satisfaction(per cabin): Mission Failed or Empty Cabin -500 points**
- Passenger Bonus (per cabin): VIP Passengers +200 points (Nuk likes to travel in luxury)**
- Passenger Bonus (per cabin): + Cabin Class x 100 points**
- ** Passenger Bonus points are lost if Mission Failed or Empty Cabin at the end of the run.
Fat Tony's Cobra Classic
- Any valid Bootlegger Challenge run made in an unengineered Cobra MkIII or Cobra MkIV is a valid Cobra Classic run.
- Cobra Classic runs can optionally also be Black Riband and/or Booze Cruise runs if you wish.
- For the purposes of the Cobra Classic only core modules need to be non-engineered.
- As the Cobra Mk IV is not available to all CMDRs it should be noted that, as far as I can tell, it is inferior in all aspects to the Cobra Mk III in regard to the Bootlegger Challenge requirement, although its extra internal slots may be beneficial for the Booze Cruise event.
I do have a question for those who are familiar with passenger missions. Are the only passenger satisfaction states Happy, Content and Unhappy? I've not had chance to check in game yet, and nobody seems to have written a forum guide to passenger missions - so I can't confirm. I've been drafting the first post article for the rebootlegged event during lunchtimes at work, but still have things to check out in the game.
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Alright, run submitted even though I could probably do better with more dedicated engineering, less inebriation, and more aggressive scooping.
Sorry to take the class record from you, Edelgard, but good job on blazing a trail for Dolphin enthusiasts.
Don't blame me! I'm doing it so FRIENDS can show up to help.
After Unhappy, they will flat out jump ship in an escape pod.I do have a question for those who are familiar with passenger missions. Are the only passenger satisfaction states Happy, Content and Unhappy? I've not had chance to check in game yet, and nobody seems to have written a forum guide to passenger missions - so I can't confirm. I've been drafting the first post article for the rebootlegged event during lunchtimes at work, but still have things to check out in the game.
First post updated with CMDR Jak's class record 45m54s Dolphin run in Enigma Limo. Right on commander! o7
Thanks, that's what I'd thought, but couldn't confirm from the forums.
Hey Kan3abl3, you're certainly not a jerk and yes you do hold the DBS class record - apologies for that, the leaderboard is fixed now. I'm not sure how I've missed that for almost two years, as your run was recorded but not your class record.
Belated congratulations on your class record, and I look forward to your run in the updated race.
Thank you so much! I'm actually super proud of this and I don't know why I never made another run. I'm sorry to hear you had such a rough month back then and hope everything is going well now! I look forward to completing a run in the new race
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Okay, so I got this thread unlocked for the time being (to be honest I hadn't actually realised it was locked).
The Lonnegan Brothers are happy to accept any new entries while they finalise the updated event. With the new engineering updates in 3.0 maybe someone fancies trying to take Buski's record.
The updated event has taken a lot longer than I expected to sort out, mainly due to various tweaks to the way black markets are handled by the BGS, and also because pretty much all of the rare-alcohol commodities are now legal everywhere (or rather everywhere that can have a black market).
I've got a planned format for the updated race, that will involve visiting 4 relatively stable black markets with illegal rares. Sadly this means that it'll not be the booze running race that I'd hoped for. It will be a rares smuggling race though, so that'll have to do.
I still have a few things to check out, but plan to have the new Bootlegger Challenge / Black Riband go live on 7th May - that's the day after my next regular BRC race ends.
Whereas the current Black Riband is open-mode only, the new Bootlegger Challenge will be for all modes.
However the new Black Riband will be held by the fastest pre-declared open-mode entry.
The declaration window will be tight enough for the Black Riband that all runs will effectively be one-shot, so all DNF runs will be listed not just the successful runs.
As well as the Black Riband itself other "open-only challenges" will be Cobra Classic Cup and the Lucky Lakon Trophy.
More news soon, until then fly fast CMDRs. o7
The Lonnegan Brothers are happy to accept any new entries while they finalise the updated event. With the new engineering updates in 3.0 maybe someone fancies trying to take Buski's record.
The updated event has taken a lot longer than I expected to sort out, mainly due to various tweaks to the way black markets are handled by the BGS, and also because pretty much all of the rare-alcohol commodities are now legal everywhere (or rather everywhere that can have a black market).
I've got a planned format for the updated race, that will involve visiting 4 relatively stable black markets with illegal rares. Sadly this means that it'll not be the booze running race that I'd hoped for. It will be a rares smuggling race though, so that'll have to do.
I still have a few things to check out, but plan to have the new Bootlegger Challenge / Black Riband go live on 7th May - that's the day after my next regular BRC race ends.
Whereas the current Black Riband is open-mode only, the new Bootlegger Challenge will be for all modes.
However the new Black Riband will be held by the fastest pre-declared open-mode entry.
The declaration window will be tight enough for the Black Riband that all runs will effectively be one-shot, so all DNF runs will be listed not just the successful runs.
As well as the Black Riband itself other "open-only challenges" will be Cobra Classic Cup and the Lucky Lakon Trophy.
More news soon, until then fly fast CMDRs. o7
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I did think that I'd posted another update here, but must have just posted something on Discord.
During the Galaxy's End race I took the time to collect lots of illegal rare goods and to check out my planned destination black-markets. Everything seems to be good, so I'll be writing up a race-thread post during Alec's race, and should be ready to go with Black Riband II after Alec's race.
The new race will still be an ongoing event, and so to prevent it from clashing with any scheduled BRC Race or Buckyball Run will include a rule that you cannot make a run during another Buckyball event that you haven't already submitted a run for.
The new event will be a little more complex, it'll require at least as much route planning as other races that I've hosted and will also require the 'right' BGS conditions to give a window for the 'perfect run.' This mostly means that 2 or 3 of your source stations will need to be in boom-state, so the window isn't too complex or unusual.
Since this original version doesn't contain enough actual smuggling at all, it will close when the new and (hopefully) improved event begins. So you have roughly 2 weeks if you want to snatch the title of all-time "Black Riband Classic" winner from CDMR Bruski.
More soon...
Fly fast (or fall fast if you're competing in Alec's race).
During the Galaxy's End race I took the time to collect lots of illegal rare goods and to check out my planned destination black-markets. Everything seems to be good, so I'll be writing up a race-thread post during Alec's race, and should be ready to go with Black Riband II after Alec's race.
The new race will still be an ongoing event, and so to prevent it from clashing with any scheduled BRC Race or Buckyball Run will include a rule that you cannot make a run during another Buckyball event that you haven't already submitted a run for.
The new event will be a little more complex, it'll require at least as much route planning as other races that I've hosted and will also require the 'right' BGS conditions to give a window for the 'perfect run.' This mostly means that 2 or 3 of your source stations will need to be in boom-state, so the window isn't too complex or unusual.
Since this original version doesn't contain enough actual smuggling at all, it will close when the new and (hopefully) improved event begins. So you have roughly 2 weeks if you want to snatch the title of all-time "Black Riband Classic" winner from CDMR Bruski.
More soon...
Fly fast (or fall fast if you're competing in Alec's race).
Nice! (alas out of rep). In due course I might actually get around to giving this one a try, thanks for continuing to organise it Raiko!
I don't understand the part about not making a run until you've entered whichever BRC race is taking place. Why the limitation? I don't see this as stepping on anyone's toes any more than the A* Challenge. If the race needs good BGS states in key systems, then that only exacerbates the issue. As an ongoing race, it's something people can plan for or just race on a whim at any time - that's the appeal of it.
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I've been holding back on engineering the Dolphin I made a run with in the old Black Riband so that I can compare the times needed for the two events. After engineering, I think the Dolphin has a lot of potential for a racing ship, similar to the DBX and Hauler. I'm going on the Small Worlds Expedition 3, so I won't be able to make a run for several weeks (taking my Adder for that) but I'm looking forward to the new race!
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I've been holding back on engineering the Dolphin I made a run with in the old Black Riband so that I can compare the times needed for the two events. After engineering, I think the Dolphin has a lot of potential for a racing ship, similar to the DBX and Hauler. I'm going on the Small Worlds Expedition 3, so I won't be able to make a run for several weeks (taking my Adder for that) but I'm looking forward to the new race!
Well it's not a rule set in stone yet, so it'll go if nobody wants that restriction, but my thinking was that since it'll launch in between events I don't want to unintentionally overshadow someone elses event - especially as I've only just run my own race.
Story-wise it's because the Lonnigan Brothers don't want to have their Buckyball viewing interrupted by work administering Black Riband runs.
It would be nice to see Bananery Fandango or The Wedding Anniversary on the leaderboard.
Regarding the reliance on a BGS-Boom window, as a Dolphin pilot I think you'll actually like my reasoning here. Plus these systems are in boom a lot anyway.
I'm dumping the handicap system completely, it didn't work well, wasn't balanced, and got more unbalanced as FD buffed some of the ships.
I didn't want the new event to be an auto win for the DBX though (great racer though it is), I wanted the race to reward versatility as well as range.
Having said that, I also don't want to make it an auto win for the Asp-X.
Discounting the Cobra for now, if you take a selection of classic rares traders/smugglers and order them by jump range you get this:
DBX -> Asp-X -> Dolphin -> Python -> iClipper
Ordering the same ships by cargo capacity, I think you get this (ie the reverse):
iClipper -> Python -> Dolphin -> Asp-X -> DBX
For the new race, you'll need to deliver 20t of illegal rares to each of 5 destination black-markets, dead-drop 8 tons of rare booze inside a couple of installations, and finally return to Weyl Gateway with 20 tons of legal rares ('cus the Lonnigans are 100% legit, honest).
So the most optimal route for a DBX might not be the same as for a Python, because the DBX can't pick up 57 tons of HIP Organophosphates like the Python.
And the Asp-X can boost it's hold size, but only by dropping it's huge fuel-scoop.
Getting back to the Cobra, the "regulation" class will be Cobra Classic Class (as used in the festival of racing) open to all unengineered Cobra Mk.IIIs and Mk.IVs, normally the Mk.III is superior in every way, but for this the Mk.IV's larger holder might make up for it's shorter range / lower speed.
Preview of the Black Riband II in the main MRC thread:
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-Racing-Club?p=6820119&viewfull=1#post6820119
The new event will begin on Saturday 30-JUN-3304
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-Racing-Club?p=6820119&viewfull=1#post6820119
The new event will begin on Saturday 30-JUN-3304
It's taking me a while to finish editing everything, but the new Black Riband Rebooted thread will appear sometime in the next 24 hours (hopefully tonight).
I'm going to ask the mods to close this thread again now, as I will no longer be accepting entries in the original Riband.
Congratulations to Commander Bruski on being the final holder of the original Black Riband. o7
And thank you to everyone who's made an attempt over the last three years or so.
I'm going to ask the mods to close this thread again now, as I will no longer be accepting entries in the original Riband.
Congratulations to Commander Bruski on being the final holder of the original Black Riband. o7
And thank you to everyone who's made an attempt over the last three years or so.
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