Building Your Own Settlement Colony! :-)
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So again its your opinion. No one knows what the game will evolve into but there seem to be plenty that think they have somehow earned the right to dictate to others what it should evolve.....(or stagnate) into.
I'm not an 84er, I came to Elite a couple of years after that though, and yes I suppose I am a Fanboi, but I'd like to note here...
... as I understand it the Forum Mods and FDEV all look at the suggestions posted. It is they that make the final decision on what gets taken forward for development not the Fanbois. There is a onward development path for E
that has been posted, which new ideas if good enough need to fit in with.We're not saying your ideas and suggestions are not good but they don't fit the development model of this game.
So 'I want, but not getting, therefore teddy in the corner!' attitudes offer nothing.
And there will be plenty more. As long as Elite is the empty, buggy, boring grind sandbox it is now, people will make threads like these. They want goals, stuff to do in groups/wings. etc etc, it needs stuff found in other games.
One man, one ship? They should not have made it an online game in that case.
I understand what you are saying and as I said earlier, I played the original game in the 1980's, but times have moved on and to keep people interested it does need more than it has now, I know a lot is promised and I look forward to that, but after a few months, years of playing we need something to do with the millions of credits we will have accumilated or it will become pointless.
So it's a solo game set amoung 400 billion systems because why the hell not. Oh though if you want some "group" involvement then you can team up with a couple of people. But if you want to do something of value, you do it yourself by chipping in with the rest.
I hate to burst your bubble but gamers will find a way to bend it to the limit till things work how they won't or close enough. Seen it enought times in open world games and games in general. What is stopping 1000 CMDR decending on one location killing anything and everything that will blow up. Then flood the stations and use them like they own them. What difference is it then if they paid for it? It will happen or something like it. How else will they make a claim for a place to call thier own.
Greetings,
"It is one man, one ship against the galaxy"
Well isn't it multiple commanders with multiple ships? Stinky has a point. We are not in a single player offline game, it is an online multi player game! I'll caveat the blurb below by saying this; I still love this game and have the patience to see how Frontier develop it.
The game does lack content and direction/objectives but I am sure that will come in time. Will that or does that include owning outposts, maybe....
Why shouldn't we cherry pick all the good stuff from other games and ask for them to be included? If it fits and it works then why not, why reinvent the wheel.
Mining - completely pointless in my opinion, doesnt make much money and you can't do anything with what you mine (other than sell it), building stuff is way more fun, plus you can sell it!
Combat - besides the thrill of pitting your skill against another there is little risk/reward for doing so
Trading - Purely and simply a grinding exercise to make money, not overly enjoyable, definitely needs work.
Exploration - Fun to a point, but hasn't up until now paid well.
I'll save a copy of my response for the next thread asking the same question
Kro
Sorry to burst your somewhat self-righteous ego-inflated bubble, but I've not come across this thread's game content suggestion specifically implemented in any space game I have previously played. Perhaps there's some obscure one out there that has it, but this certainly wasn't created off the back of it. I'm sorry you don't have the imagination or time to come up with original and meaningful suggestions on how to add more depth to the game everyone here loves, but you certainly seem to make time to hate on other people's.
Good job. >_>
You want it to be one man, one ship for the rest of your gaming time? That's fine. Ignore any other content that appears or other people's suggestions. If you are so sure of yourself that FD would never implement something that goes against your unrelenting self-contained ethos of my-game-my-rules, then I don't see why you are on here slating those people who posit suggestions of things they would enjoy seeing.
Fixed that for you.
The "one man, one ship" idea is neat in single player, but in multiplayer it wears thin fast. There's a good reason for why the latter Elite clones/sequels added an immersive story in addition to the bare trading/NPC killing. ED currently is not on 90s level, it's on 80s level. In SP you can enrich the "one man, one ship" with an engrossing story, campaign and missions (think FFE thargoid missions, Freelancer, Privateer, Sub Culture, Hardwar) but ED has none of that. So it's "one man, one ship" AND without any narrative and long term goals whatsoever.
This cannot work in the long run. So either they need to make a great themepark and add some stories to follow through, or they expand the sandbox massively, ditching the one ship ethos in the long run, because there's only so much you can realize with such a strict corset. I mean seriously, what other options are there?
This cannot work in the long run. So either they need to make a great themepark and add some stories to follow through, or they expand the sandbox massively, ditching the one ship ethos in the long run, because there's only so much you can realize with such a strict corset. I mean seriously, what other options are there?
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Not hating on anyone's posts or suggestions ... unlike this post in reply to mine.
I understand one thing, many on here don't ... Frontier will make the game THEY want to make.
Sure we can suggest, give feedback, bug report and everything else ... but when Frontier have specifically stated what sort of game they will make, when people like me who have been here a long time and understand that Frontier will make they game they want to make, when we keep telling you that Frontier will make the game they want make ... WHY DO YOU KEEP WASTING YOUR TIME SUGGESTING SOMETHING THAT ISN'T WHAT FRONTIER WANT TO MAKE?
Maybe I do have a self-inflated ego on this forum, I won't deny it ... but I don't try make Elite something it shouldn't be, I leave those decisions up to Frontier, it is their game, not mine.
(caps used for emphasis, not shouting)
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Not even one colony per player?
Childish attitude to the core! Even if every single human would play this game and establish a colony, they would own 1-2% of the galaxy at best. What's to lose? How about a combined model: If your rank is high enough, you get the ability to fund a colony for your empire on the frontier, your NPC faction in turns makes you a planetary governor of the colony. Managing it is split between you and your empire.
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Because if you don't ask, you don't get. Sure, the devs might think: "Nah, that's not what we want." If so, that's cool. You tried.
But as a Dev myself, I can say from firsthand experience that a lot of the in-game content we put into <GameName> was derived in no small part to the community posting a suggestions and us taking it into a design group and going: "Oh, yeah! Actually that would be awesome!" or "Well it wouldn't work on the whole, but THIS bit would be a great addition", etc.
And even aside from that, posting suggestions lets the game devs know the sort of thing that their player base is interested in.
They might think (slightly exaggerating here) : "Maybe we should add space monkeys to the game...?" At which point, they will discuss the idea and (hopefully) one bright spark would mention: "Actually nobody has even talked about Space Monkeys in the community, but right now lots of people are clamouring for Space Whales!"
And then the design team get round this idea, flesh it out and before you know it, Space Moby is slipping silently across the Sol night sky.
Finally:
If my post seemed somewhat flamey, then I apologise. It wasn't intentionally so - but it frustrates me when people shoot down ideas without any counter suggestion other than "I don't want this in my game. Rawr!"
Here endeth the lesson of archbishop Alien of the Church of the unalterable vision of David.
No. Why should there be?
Seriously, if you can't take people disagreeing with you, don't have a tantrum and start throwing insults about. Either develop a reasoned argument or be nice and be quiet until such time as you learn to do so.
Because Elite isn't a single-player colony building game. I'm all for such things occurring as the result of a massive group effort, ideally being driven by the in game factions. But the idea of such things being driven by an individual just doesn't fit with what the games is supposed to be about.
Now if you'd said "players hollowing out asteroids to establish makeshift stations" I'd be all about that. Totally consistent with the game background and much more plausible accomplishment for the lone player.
I might be wrong but I think your gonna need a spread sheet for that.
Did you read anything that was published by the Dev team about ED?
Just wondering because you sound like a steak man who orders fish and then says that he would like it more if it tasted.....you got it like COW!
Why would you come up with a suggestion that is at total odds with how they have said the game would be all along, I really do understand what you are suggesting and it sounds like a fun game (done lots of times but done right it would be fun) but it does not fit in with anything that has been said by FD.
Before all you change the game fanboys start to give me grief all I am saying is that right from the start we all knew what the game would be so why start to suggest it changes direction, when you know that David B and the team are making the game that they want to play NOT the one that you do.
Totally agree. And that last idea is awesome. Reminds me of the 'space hermits living in asteroids' that were said (by the manual) to be in the 1984 game (but weren't actually in the game)
...and generation ships....want me some generation ships to find.