Can we get a screen safe zone option

Silly questions stuff to cover, your forgiveness please.

My TV (a now ageing Toshiba) has similar options. It also has a "native" setting, which I use with the Xbone. Is it possible within the menu structure somewhere there maybe a similar option, possibly in an advanced section?

From the image you've posted it would appear to be trying to zoom the image a tad. Or as previously pointed out under/over scanning.

Is it a "HD Ready" - 720p or "Full HD" 1080p panel?

How are you connecting the Xbone to the TV? - HDMI, HD Composite, etc?

If you are able to ID the make model of the device I could be very useful in troubleshooting this. Even just a photo of the back plate would help. There are some very knowledgeable AV geeks out there.

Are you able to update the TV's firmware in anyway? Does it have an ethernet port, or WiFi? It may also have an update available OTA.

Identifying what panel & boards are actually present in the black plastic case would be really helpful. There are only a few plants worldwide that manufacture them, which are then resold.

Last silly question what setting are you currently using? 16:9 or zoom?

Apologies, but must get the daft stuff covered first.


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Here is an image of the back label.

It should be a full 1080p TV, TV is old enough not to have ethernet or wifi.

I am running it in 16:9.

It's your TV of the above comments don't resolve it and not something the developer or Xbox can solve in this case.

Only option is to buy a new one as the TV my kids have which had this issue.
Stay away from Sanyo, Vizio, Panasonic, Sharp....

choose tvs with game mode only like: Samsung, LG

https://support.xbox.com/en-US/xbox-one/console/adjust-display-settings
I do understand this but quite a few games have screen size options.
 
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That TV is also a "HD Ready" set - it's 720p not 1080p as a "Full HD" Would be. It may support a 1080p input (most HD Ready sets will) but still only display it at native 720p resolution.

This might be the reason for your overscan issue.
 
That TV is also a "HD Ready" set - it's 720p not 1080p as a "Full HD" Would be. It may support a 1080p input (most HD Ready sets will) but still only display it at native 720p resolution.

This might be the reason for your overscan issue.
I always thought it was full 1080p, ill tell xbox to lower my resolution to see if it still has overscan.
 
I think the reason why we don't have it and instead we have the FOV slider is that the hud is not projected onto your screen and rather it's integrated in the ship itself so it's bound by the geometry of the ship, you can see this effect in cramped cockpits such as the eagle's, the hud comes out of those orange projectors on your dash.

Now maybe try disabling the camera shake, that ensures that the hud will never move. A lot of people does that.
 
I think the reason why we don't have it and instead we have the FOV slider is that the hud is not projected onto your screen and rather it's integrated in the ship itself so it's bound by the geometry of the ship, you can see this effect in cramped cockpits such as the eagle's, the hud comes out of those orange projectors on your dash.

Now maybe try disabling the camera shake, that ensures that the hud will never move. A lot of people does that.
But for outfitting the FOV slider doesnt have an effect though right? And as my screenshot shows there is significant info missing.
 
I just set my xbox to run 720p rather than 1080p booted up elite and went to outfitting, however the only thing that happened was the picture quality became terrible.
 
I'm still searching for 3730F, but according to 3770F manual there is "Just Scan" option if content is above 720p and input is HDMI...
 
http://i.imgur.com/0kSjd12.jpg

Here is an image of the back label.

It should be a full 1080p TV, TV is old enough not to have ethernet or wifi.

I am running it in 16:9.


I do understand this but quite a few games have screen size options.

Thanks for that. I fear I am the bearer of bad news. :|

The Neon TP3730F is a re-branded Daewoo panel, with a Xuguang Tech main board. Commissioned by Cello electronics for sale in outlets such as Morrisions, Aldi etc. The Neon brand would seem to have been discontinued. None of that is really vastly important.

After a bit of google-fu it would appear that any of the models with a xxxx30x are 720p or so termed "HD ready" the xxxx70x models are 1080. Some 1080i some 1080p.

A depreciated amazon listing here clearly lists that model, a Neon TP3730F as "HD ready" therefore only running a resolution of 1280x720, or 720p. I'll come back to this in a moment.

I'm still searching for 3730F, but according to 3770F manual there is "Just Scan" option if content is above 720p and input is HDMI...

I had the same problem. A few other sites claiming to have a manual but demanding either a "free registration" or "download our software to view". Meh. IDBY

That TV is also a "HD Ready" set - it's 720p not 1080p as a "Full HD" Would be. It may support a 1080p input (most HD Ready sets will) but still only display it at native 720p resolution.

I concur that I believe this is what's happening.

I just set my xbox to run 720p rather than 1080p booted up elite and went to outfitting, however the only thing that happened was the picture quality became terrible.

Until I saw this. [uhh]

Which got me curious for a little more google-fu.

I think your panel is an attempting to display 1080 or "Full HD" on a 1366x768 rated panel. Hence the under scan. The 1366x768 resolution also gives a ratio of 16:9. The image clipping you are seeing is the difference between the two resolutions.

My maths is terrible but, if the xbox is outputting at 1080 lines and your TV is displaying 768 lines, that leaves a difference of 312 lines. Divide that by two in order to split the difference between the top and lower edges of the screen, which gives 156 lines, which is the clipping of the image which you are seeing. It is also missing from the top of the screen but no where near as noticeable. When this element is factored in to the mix it makes sense. OR, it is only clipping the lower edge of the display at the full 312 lines. Hard to tell from here. Largely dependant on how the control board is interpreting the signal either from 0,0 (top left of the screen) or the centre point of the panel.

A bit of a cheap trick my the manufacturer to enable to display of "Full HD" on a slightly over "HD Ready" rated panel. This is not helpful when running something like an xbox one into it. Humph. But when it was retailed the xbox one didn't exist.

In the display setting of the xbox one there is an auto detect setting, which I'm sure you are more than aware of. This resolution mismatch may possibly be enough to fool the xbox when probing its primary output as over 720, therefore deciding it must be a 1080, when in fact it is not. If that makes sense.

The lack of any image fine tuning controls on the TV only further exaggerate matters. If you were able to tweak the display image then that may help resolve the issue.

Short of a straight TV upgrade, i'm not sure it can be fixed even with any kind of inline up-scaling device (like an AV receiver for example) the issue will persist as it is the primary output device. The only other thing I can suggest as a budget remedy is somewhere like CEX or similar trade in place, with a second hand PC monitor with an HDMI input.

I hope this helps.
 
Thanks for that. I fear I am the bearer of bad news. :|

The Neon TP3730F is a re-branded Daewoo panel, with a Xuguang Tech main board. Commissioned by Cello electronics for sale in outlets such as Morrisions, Aldi etc. The Neon brand would seem to have been discontinued. None of that is really vastly important.

After a bit of google-fu it would appear that any of the models with a xxxx30x are 720p or so termed "HD ready" the xxxx70x models are 1080. Some 1080i some 1080p.

A depreciated amazon listing here clearly lists that model, a Neon TP3730F as "HD ready" therefore only running a resolution of 1280x720, or 720p. I'll come back to this in a moment.



I had the same problem. A few other sites claiming to have a manual but demanding either a "free registration" or "download our software to view". Meh. IDBY



I concur that I believe this is what's happening.



Until I saw this. [uhh]

Which got me curious for a little more google-fu.

I think your panel is an attempting to display 1080 or "Full HD" on a 1366x768 rated panel. Hence the under scan. The 1366x768 resolution also gives a ratio of 16:9. The image clipping you are seeing is the difference between the two resolutions.

My maths is terrible but, if the xbox is outputting at 1080 lines and your TV is displaying 768 lines, that leaves a difference of 312 lines. Divide that by two in order to split the difference between the top and lower edges of the screen, which gives 156 lines, which is the clipping of the image which you are seeing. It is also missing from the top of the screen but no where near as noticeable. When this element is factored in to the mix it makes sense. OR, it is only clipping the lower edge of the display at the full 312 lines. Hard to tell from here. Largely dependant on how the control board is interpreting the signal either from 0,0 (top left of the screen) or the centre point of the panel.

A bit of a cheap trick my the manufacturer to enable to display of "Full HD" on a slightly over "HD Ready" rated panel. This is not helpful when running something like an xbox one into it. Humph. But when it was retailed the xbox one didn't exist.

In the display setting of the xbox one there is an auto detect setting, which I'm sure you are more than aware of. This resolution mismatch may possibly be enough to fool the xbox when probing its primary output as over 720, therefore deciding it must be a 1080, when in fact it is not. If that makes sense.

The lack of any image fine tuning controls on the TV only further exaggerate matters. If you were able to tweak the display image then that may help resolve the issue.

Short of a straight TV upgrade, i'm not sure it can be fixed even with any kind of inline up-scaling device (like an AV receiver for example) the issue will persist as it is the primary output device. The only other thing I can suggest as a budget remedy is somewhere like CEX or similar trade in place, with a second hand PC monitor with an HDMI input.

I hope this helps.

The fix i used for my PC was to run at 1824x1014 which fit most of the screen however with a little gap around the edges but xb wont allow custom resolutions.

Thanks for researching anway, the issue is a bit annoying however it is bearable.
 
http://i.imgur.com/0kSjd12.jpg

Here is an image of the back label.

It should be a full 1080p TV, TV is old enough not to have ethernet or wifi.

I am running it in 16:9.


I do understand this but quite a few games have screen size options.

the games that have it also may show all because technically they are 720p or 900p upscale so you need that because it's not native thus it could cause issues depending upon your Xbox settings and tv settings.

I assume the native 1080 games are those cutting off more for you right?
 
The fix i used for my PC was to run at 1824x1014 which fit most of the screen however with a little gap around the edges but xb wont allow custom resolutions.

Thanks for researching anway, the issue is a bit annoying however it is bearable.

No probs at all, I enjoy issue researching & trouble shooting. An enjoyable hour or so.

As luck would have it, I've just ordered a replacement TV, in the bank holiday sales. This could pretty much make my current Toshiba Regza 32RV753 redundant.

I was considering using it as a mega 32" desktop monitor, for my PC. But it's not designed to be viewed up close, also no tilt. May well be too heavy for my computer desk. So probably a silly idea. But it is most definitely Full HD - 1080p. It may end up in the bedroom as a 2nd TV. Undecided as of yet.

If I decide to sell, I could make a special fellow commander discount. But I would be unable to deliver, it would have to be collected. And it is big and heavy.

In all honesty you'd probably be better saving your pennies as best as you can, and bagging a newer model in the January sales.
 
Most TV have various settings, like wide, cenema, super wide, native etc, think the button on the remote is like a square with arrows or similar. I play on. 60 inch and for all Xbox I set it to 'native' that is perfect fit for everything. I find, I guess it gets the info from the Xbox itself in that setting.
 
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