Notice Canopy Integrity
- Thread starter Will Flanagan
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dito, i'm also heard multiply time 50% integrity warning flying a chieftain, the canopy didn't pop at 50%
after losing my canopy, the modul tab showed always 0% not 50%
DeletedUser191218
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Hence why I assume it was a recent addition. Typically, FDev have released a totally unclear, garbled message causing nothing but confusion and have proven incapable of offering clarity. It's genuinely embarrassing now. I don't get tge impression Will understands the situation either.
i found an old video that shows the 0%
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That doesn't tell us anything. It's just text, the value behind that text could be anything.
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That doesn't mean it broke at 0% or wouldn't have broken at 50%.
The evidence needed to convincingly contradict Frontier's statements would be video or screens of a canopy that is both still intact and below 50% integrity.
did you mean "Capish"
true, I'm still looking for video/screenshot that's show the canopy below 50%
edit: and i found one!
Timestamp: 12:05
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Might be worth opening a ticket about to get some clarification, because that definitely shows an intact canopy with integrity below 50% prior to the current change.
I have no proof but I think FD are wrong about how the canopy worked before.
I fought thargoid interceptors a lot when they first arrived and again after gauss cannon were first introduced and canopy breaches meant an instant withdrawal from the fight for me. I'm certain that I repaired canopies from less than 50% many times, and that there was at least one (possibly 2) pre failure crack that could appear.
Speculation alert: I wonder if the cracks would first appear at 50% rather than it being a total failure at that point, and possibly once the cracks appeared it could rng fail.
I haven't contributed before now because no one had proof disputing FD's version of how it used to work. I don't feel like I'm imagining things now that I've seen Grisnir's vid, nice one for finding it.
I fought thargoid interceptors a lot when they first arrived and again after gauss cannon were first introduced and canopy breaches meant an instant withdrawal from the fight for me. I'm certain that I repaired canopies from less than 50% many times, and that there was at least one (possibly 2) pre failure crack that could appear.
Speculation alert: I wonder if the cracks would first appear at 50% rather than it being a total failure at that point, and possibly once the cracks appeared it could rng fail.
I haven't contributed before now because no one had proof disputing FD's version of how it used to work. I don't feel like I'm imagining things now that I've seen Grisnir's vid, nice one for finding it.
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So your saying one rail gun shot can be enough to break the canopy and that's how fdev intended it? I know that's without MRP but still seems a touch too weak to me. It would be nice if it could at least survive say, 4 shots from a C2 rail and then with MRP it becomes stronger from there. I think it needs more than just returning the integrity to 30. It could do with double that or some engineering recipes or something just to bring it in line with other ships modules.
Cracks definitely appeared before 50% before and there could be at least two stages of cracking before failure.
I also think I saw canopy integrity below 50% before, but prior to seeing proof of it, I was willing to put that down to the vagaries of memory. Now it seems like there is good cause for further investigation.
Yes. Had it happen plenty of times, long before the current change. With more standard hull resistances, a medium rail gun is perfectly capable of doing more than 30 damage to a module in one shot.
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Your knowledge/memory of that part is better than mine o7
I mean I've had the canopy breach at the beginning of a fight whilst I've still had 90% hull plenty of times and that explains why. I'm a bit befuddled that fdev designed it that way or maybe there wasn't much design involved at all and it just ended up like that.
On my cutter with 2 mrp there were at least 3-4 stages of increasingly cracked canopy before breach, but I was running afmu and repair limpets in cz and didn't really payed much attention. Still, I think it was the cutter when I witnessed the 7% canopy
In my Anaconda, with no mrp, while bounty hunting for Explorer's Anchorage CG I remember taking 2 canopy hits before deciding to make my escape for repairs. IIRC, that time the canopy was somewhere 30-ish %
Also, I never had the canopy breached in one hit, always there were several stages of cracks.
PVE only, of course.
This explains why my Clipper, whose achilles heel has always been the canopy blowing out, now seems to keep it for longer or even lets me get back to the Station with crazy paving all over. Thanks FDev!!
Interesting point, not to mention that percentage changes as mentioned don't really tell us much, example maybe it was like:
Before: 1000 Canopy hit points, canopy breaks at 50%, effectively 500 canopy hit points.
After: 250 Canopy hit points, canopy breaks at 0%, effectively 250 canopy hit points, overall canopies nerfed by 50% from prior.
Notice the percentages are all fixed now, but we still end up with weaker canopies.
Straight up yes or no question, FDev: Do canopies now have fewer effective hit points than they used to?
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This thread proves FDev need to offer a proper explanation of what's going on here.
They've already answered this, and they were apparently wrong.
