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OK that explains it.
I don't know why the US are bashing the UK recently . You won the war independence because u didn't want to pay tax to UK. Its America first so focus on sorting ur own issues.
UK is a democracy with a capital economy and a welfare state and national health service.
I'm sure there are US citizens who have used the NHS and claimed benefits. in UK.
In fact I know there is because I can hear there Yankee accent while sitting n job centre.
We are looking forward to eating your over pumped antibiotics meat.
UK is a democracy with a capital economy and a welfare state and national health service.
I'm sure there are US citizens who have used the NHS and claimed benefits. in UK.
In fact I know there is because I can hear there Yankee accent while sitting n job centre.
We are looking forward to eating your over pumped antibiotics meat.
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Looking forward to it my friend. Might be a while before I get back to you on it, though
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If Fdev would just accept my mod application this forum would rock and roll.
I'll employ anyone qualified to do the job, regardless of ethnicity, country of origin or religious belief, assuming they're here legally of course. With that said, I live in what's called a micro city, so my hire pool is not particularly diverse. Wages are high; i don't pay by the hour, but unskilled averages 15-20 an hour if you broke it down, skilled is probably between 50-90 per hour.
The work is dangerous and difficult, and I find that locating workers who can do the job and are reliable is the hardest part of running my company.
so i guess u are looking forward when robots can replace humans for these dangerous and difficult jobs
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No robot is going to replace what I'm doing or needing done.
I'm not saying you're wrong on that but the global society we live in is far from perfect too... as are individuals in it.
Don't worry about it..........
If the thinkers at motherjones were in any way responsible for our industrial capacity, practical application of medical needs or the growth/distribution of basic food items, mankind would be back to living in caves in short order
I wonder; when Ayn Rand was on Social Security and Medicare could she afford car insurance?
“The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society.”
- Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto
"It's not a novel to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force."
- Dorthy Parker's opinion of 'Atlas Shrugged'.
"Ayn Rand was the single most important novelist and philosopher of the 20th century. Or so she admitted with all due modesty, whenever the subject came up."
-Scott McLemee
“The bourgeoisie cannot exist without constantly revolutionising the instruments of production, and thereby the relations of production, and with them the whole relations of society.”
- Karl Marx, The Communist Manifesto
"It's not a novel to be tossed aside lightly. It should be thrown with great force."
- Dorthy Parker's opinion of 'Atlas Shrugged'.
"Ayn Rand was the single most important novelist and philosopher of the 20th century. Or so she admitted with all due modesty, whenever the subject came up."
-Scott McLemee
The fact that she weakened from her principles near the end of her life when she was dying from lung cancer doesn't mean her principles were not sound, just that her enemies (of which most know her only from wikipedia) have a handy tool to try to discredit her based on that alone. I do agree that she was not perfect, and certainly no angel. Her views on reproductive rights and feminism, for example, are quite contrary to my own views. But when she talks capitalism and production, and the evil of Communism she is like a laser cutting away at cancerous tissue in order to get to the truth,
Karl Marx taught a vile philosophy that would be the ultimate ruin of mankind if widely practiced.
Dorothy who (cares)?
Scot who (cares)?
The thing is, if Ayn Rand were so easily dismissed and so patently farcical as people like yourself would seem to suggest, we would not even know who she was, much less be talking about her works 6 decades later.
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Ayn Rand was a philosopher in the same sense that the Christmas Bullet was an aeroplane. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christmas_Bullet
I think that is more due to the fact that her writings can be easily abused to fit some other narrative, very much like writings of Marx were used by others. Its not that Marx or Rand are particularly interesting (although it is interesting that both come to polar opposite conclusions based on exactly the same fallacy) if it weren't for very powerful and influential people claiming they were their inspiration. The way Rand describes people in Atlas Shrugged, on which libertarianism is strongly based, is in no way less bizarre than how communism pretends people work. Both are fine for pub talk, but the more they get applied the more problematic things tends to become. Fast. In the end Rand experienced the horrors of communism and came up with an unworkable antidote that sounds good in fiction. Marx experienced the horrors of the industrialization and came up with an unworkable antidote that sounds good in fiction.
As for Ayn Rand being a hypocrite: that is a time-honored tradition among philosophers and preachers. While disappointing, it doesnt by default mean their words were wrong.
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Atlas Shrugged was a series of arguments with characters who essentially functioned as vehicles to introduce them, with a fairly interesting, yet ultimately improbable story binding it all together. I actually think it deserves a lot of credit as a science fiction-y, dystopian future kind of story; when you look at Project X, Galt's Gulch, the perpetual energy engine, Marxist government regulations driving the country into ruin for all but a band of genius survivors who went on strike and left the whole system to fall apart, all written in the mid 50's it's kind of fascinating, really.
As to Rand's influence; I'm certainly not powerful in the sense you meant it, but the success in business and finance I have enjoyed is almost entirely based on her theories as expounded in both Atlas Shrugged & probably more importantly The Fountainhead. For me, commenting on her works is no abstraction or hypothetical argument; I've put her philosophies on capitalism directly into practice and seen the benefits for myself. The difference between capitalism and communism hardly needs explanation, but I will underline it anyway; communism is responsible for more poverty, human rights violations and death than any other system of governance in the history of mankind, while capitalism has been the root of the greatest prosperity any civilization has ever enjoyed. That is not to say capitalism is perfect, but as they say, show me a system that actually works better.
Oh, it is a fascinating novel. As long as you see it as that. And you can take inspiration from it on a personal level. But you should not try and run a country on it.
Dont get me wrong, I think it is awesome that you've been succesful, regardless of where you found your inspiration and principles.
As for communism: you really should see Marx writings in his time period. Capitalism was brutal during the industrialization, and human right violations, death, poverty and such were atrocious during the transition. Communism aimed to find another way. And yes, it did lead to a whole new saga of horrible crap. Which Ayn Rand witnessed (and she even experienced the fun part, not the more gruesome later part!). And I understand her vision resulting from her experiences. But when the Chicago School ran with her ideas and tested it in other countries we got a whole other slew of atrocities.So dont think I am talking of you. I am talking about people who take a set of ideas and turn it into an extremist ideology and force it down other people's throats without asking their opinion. When a handful of people decide to do everything completely differently on a very large scale, the little man tends to get crushed. It never ends well.
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Oh, it is a fascinating novel. As long as you see it as that. And you can take inspiration from it on a personal level. But you should not try and run a country on it.
Dont get me wrong, I think it is awesome that you've been succesful, regardless of where you found your inspiration and principles.
So dont think I am talking of you. I am talking about people who take a set of ideas and turn it into an extremist ideology and force it down other people's throats without asking their opinion. When a handful of people decide to do everything completely differently on a very large scale, the little man tends to get crushed. It never ends well.
I think this is a good place to leave it
Edit: I'd like to thank the mods for giving us pretty wide latitude to even discuss this in the first place.
I think this is a spot on attribution of Atlas.
I found it one of the hardest, and most demanding, reads of any novel I've ever read.
I've also read Anthem. Fountainhead not yet.
Am I an Objectivist or "follower" of Rand?
No, not in that sense. I'm not an "ist" of anything but I do believe in having an open mind to philosophies and then making up my own mind on how to proceed and act (which actually sounds pretty Objectivist).
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