General / Off-Topic Cecil the Lion

[Surfinjo]

There is somewhat more skill involved with bow hunting, than hunting with a rifle. Probably more danger too, although I suspect his guides were standing there with rifles raised, just in case.

Sadly, no. After attacking the animal with the arrow, they had to chase it for almost two days before shooting it.

In Zimbabwe and other African countries, revenue is made by permitting hunters to shoot old animals, past theri prime. In the case of male lions for example, they generally dominate a pride for a few years befor ebeing displaced by a young er lion. After that, they spend a few years of decline, alone. Permits are given in some areas for these animals.

The question is, why was this man allowed to attack a lion in its prime, thus also destroying his cubs?

Why was he premitted to use a bow and arrow and why was the animal allowed to run away for almost two days before being killed?

Walter Palmer's dental practice in Minneapolis has been closed since he was named as the tourist who shot Cecil, Zimbabwe's most famous lion.

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Mr Palmer is said to have shot and injured the animal with a bow and arrow. The group did not find the wounded lion until 40 hours later, when he was shot dead with a gun.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33710613

When is it hunting and when is it poaching?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-33699347

 

[Rogue Trader]

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[Alien]

[video=youtube;_LzXpE1mjqA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LzXpE1mjqA[/video]

I'm not saying it should happen, but if his name is known, and where he was living is known, and what he looks like is known ... I forsee this dentist guy getting shot and killed.

 

[Gully Foyle]

Yes lynch him. After all what was he thinking hiring professional guides and getting all the appropriate permits from a government more than happy to take his money.

Anyone remember a time when people used to say, "Judge not lest ye be judged"?

Didn't think so.

No lynching necessary here. He has already learned his lesson I believe.
He was told by his so-called guides that they had the permits but they never did actually.
The lion was lured by baiting out of the reserve and wounded by a clumsy arrow hit and dying for over 40 hours before they finally killed it.
I believe in subsistence hunting that uses the animal as food I don't believe in it as a 'sport' where the only thing they want is a trophy for a room.
Humane slaughter of a cow for its meat is not the same as a big game safari hunt that is basically a big ego trip, IMO.
Respect to all in this thread, hunters and animal lovers both.

 

[Julissa Silver]

He signed up to hunt something. He 'only' wounded it and subsequently had to track an animal in tremendous pain, torturing it for more than a day. He made the choice to do this, he decided that this was acceptable, fair behavior, he never cared enough to know the details of what he was about to do, he just wanted to be a big, scary man with a lion head.


Idiot. Bloodthirsty. Clueless. Dentist.

He doesn't need to be hurt, he already has to live with being one of the most utterly stupid creatures on the planet. That's suffering enough.

 

[GJ51]

Yeah - this guy's an idiot. He should be sent to Planned Parenthood and be made to hunt for baby parts.

 

[Patrick_68000]

I hope that he will lose all his customers and will close his dental office

 

[ianw]

Apparently it is closed already - temporarily at least.

It will probably all blow over in a few days or whenever the next villain du jour makes internet primetime.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Apparently it is closed already - temporarily at least.

It will probably all blow over in a few days or whenever the next villain du jour makes internet primetime.

He should reconvert as a veterinary dentist, until the end of his days, for his punishment

 

[Alien]

It will probably all blow over in a few days or whenever the next villain du jour makes internet primetime.

This isn't going to "blow over", yeah the media will move on and next week we'll all be talking about the next major story, but there are people out there who won't let this drop, and that's what worries me ... and probably the dentist guy too.

 

[adoredtv]

Surely this lion-killing hero can't be worried about meeting his demise at the hands of another human?

 

[Frank]

I was just thinking how very different I am from that dentist. I had an altercation with a wasp a few minutes ago. I was struggling with the glass and bit of paper to get it out of the house. It would've been easier to kill it but I guess that's just not in my nature... And besides, a wasp's head mounted on a wall would look odd because of the amount of space surrounding it.

 

[ianw]

Maybe he could regain some credibility by taunting everyone to come and get him then decamping to a nearby forest armed only with a bow and arrow, ridiculously large hunting knife and a rock (just in case any pesky helicopters turn up).

In town you're the law, out here it's me!

 

[Alien]

I was just thinking how very different I am from that dentist. I had an altercation with a wasp a few minutes ago. I was struggling with the glass and bit of paper to get it out of the house. It would've been easier to kill it but I guess that's just not in my nature... And besides, a wasp's head mounted on a wall would look odd because of the amount of space surrounding it.

While at first glance one might say that killing a wasp is no different to killing a lion, there is in fact a world of difference.

* The wasp wandered into your territory looking for either food or a way to it's hive
* The wasp is likely to attack you without provocation
* Your killing a wasp is an act born out of survival and not sport

Me personally, I have a fear of wasps, I don't know why it's wasps, I'm fine with bees. While I've never been stung by a bee or a wasp, I run away when I see a wasp, yet am calm with bees. I'd probably have handed the keys to my flat to the wasp and lived on the streets I did wake up one morning and there was a buzzing sound, when I investigated, there was a HUGE mutant wasp in my curtains. The guy in the flat next door had to remove the wasp for me. Then he had to do it again 5 minutes later because there was a second wasp there.

Now, house flies on the other hand, have to die. I detest the things, and if I see one flying around, I look for some hairspray (the best way to kill flies).
Spiders live because they eat flies.

So Frank, however you dealt with the wasp, I'm sure it's not the same as what the dentist did.

 

[Space Fan]

Sexism warning: Panthera Leo:

Spends most of his time: using his vast bulk and killing power to preserve his genetic line. Violently fending off other male lions is his main role.
Hunting: mostly done by the lionesses, however:
When hunting: rips other 'innocent' creatures apart, and then, often, doesn't eat his prey.
Spends most of his time: sleeping and sh*gging his lionesses.

I disapprove of this dentist hunter - but let's not destroy a human life for the sake of something furrier.

There has to be some balance in these arguments.

Lynching by social media allows the crazies to rule our lives, and frankly, I find that more worrying than any Minnesota dentist with too much money.

 

[ReijaBones]

Maybe he could regain some credibility by taunting everyone to come and get him then decamping to a nearby forest armed only with a bow and arrow, ridiculously large hunting knife and a rock (just in case any pesky helicopters turn up).

In town you're the law, out here it's me!

Alright John, calm down.

 

[Pomerlaw]

In other news, Russia just vetoed the UN tribunal on the MH17 case. 300 innocent civilians dead, including children.

 

[Space Fan]

In other news, Russia just vetoed the UN tribunal on the MH17 case. 300 innocent civilians dead, including children.

Pah, that's just 'other news' - more thousands dead every day, through lack of basic necessities. Who cares? - if they're too ill (or dead) to be photogenic and not sufficiently furry.

+1 for humanity.

 

[Pomerlaw]

Pah, that's just 'other news' - more thousands dead every day, through lack of basic necessities. Who cares? - if they're too ill (or dead) to be photogenic and not sufficiently furry.

+1 for humanity.

Here is what the Earth would look like without humans, the great mistake of mother nature.

 

[Patrick_68000]

...

To answer your question about the family of dentist, family responsible or not (in the other thread locked). Obviously not responsible. I say that the cats do not make the dogs. Frankly if I have a father, a mother, a brother, a sister, or another person around me who is a hunter, I will have difficulty to consider this person with love / friendship. So the family of this dentist is in agreement with him or disagree .... (I speak of adolescents and adults, not children who do not understand). If his family is in agreement with him, I am indifferent to the problems of his family ...