True! Although like i said, these weren't the usual cargo CG griefers, except for Kevin.To be fair it's easier to see the one griefing, than the one hauling, especially since most hauler do it in solo
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There is a massive difference between the January situation and this one.
On January, it was simply to get an unwelcomed Megaship away from a core Alliance system. So Alliance supporters were siding with the RMC and not with Sirius, only Sirius supporters defended their Megaship, hence why they massively lost.
Here, we are not simply talking about Reorte switching to Independent, but a whopping 6 systems that are currently owned by the RMC going Independent. This in turn has made Alliance supporters go full on with the pro-alliance group, and the unaligned simply see the CG state and go with the one in the lead.
I 100% agree that the CG is rigged though, and not only because of the heatsinks (because let's face it, while nice they are really not that big of a deal as the only advantage over engineered extra ammo ones is a measingly couple T weight per heat sink gained aka nothing for big ships, and still too heavy for exploration ships who'll always go with the lightweight variant).
The true rigging of this CG is that it's a trade CG with one goal at 32ls and the other at 373ls, with identical rewards from both sides in term of cr/t, and the pro-alliance side is the one at 32ls AND on a megaship which take less time to dock to and undock from than a station, especially in a large ship when you ALWAYS get the same pad.
Any trader will tell you that you basically shove 10 to 15% time on your loop just with those 2 facts, thus with even participation, the pro-alliance side would fill it's goal 10 to 15% faster anyway.
On January, it was simply to get an unwelcomed Megaship away from a core Alliance system. So Alliance supporters were siding with the RMC and not with Sirius, only Sirius supporters defended their Megaship, hence why they massively lost.
Here, we are not simply talking about Reorte switching to Independent, but a whopping 6 systems that are currently owned by the RMC going Independent. This in turn has made Alliance supporters go full on with the pro-alliance group, and the unaligned simply see the CG state and go with the one in the lead.
I 100% agree that the CG is rigged though, and not only because of the heatsinks (because let's face it, while nice they are really not that big of a deal as the only advantage over engineered extra ammo ones is a measingly couple T weight per heat sink gained aka nothing for big ships, and still too heavy for exploration ships who'll always go with the lightweight variant).
The true rigging of this CG is that it's a trade CG with one goal at 32ls and the other at 373ls, with identical rewards from both sides in term of cr/t, and the pro-alliance side is the one at 32ls AND on a megaship which take less time to dock to and undock from than a station, especially in a large ship when you ALWAYS get the same pad.
Any trader will tell you that you basically shove 10 to 15% time on your loop just with those 2 facts, thus with even participation, the pro-alliance side would fill it's goal 10 to 15% faster anyway.
I disagree. The core of the issue with the megaship was the introduction of Sirius as essentially part of the Alliance Navy, without the members being consulted.
Reorte threatening to leave is essentially a way to say "it's Sirius or us". If the "pro alliance" win, it's basically a Sirius victory. Which is also why in lore there is a reward for it, it's Sirius sweetening the deal.
Oh yeah, the CG is so rigged I wouldn't be surprised the Sirius side win with 150% of the votes. Even on stream they went to side with Pro alliance.
RMC is not supposed to win.
And that's why, in the first CG, pro alliance members supported the RMC to send Sirius a strong message that it was NOT okay to proceed in this way. But many of these same players think that this is not a big enough issue to let not only a core member go away but also break off 6 systems from the Alliance, and more importantly, trigger a cascade of similar claims that'd see many more dissatisfied factions leave the Alliance (Like it happened with the Fed storyline last year) over a military pact against the Thargoïds.
While yes, the Pro-alliance side winning will be in fact a Sirius victory, there is WAY more at stake than simply letting Sirius be part of the Alliance Navy this time around. The stakes are way higher and pretty much every Alliance player I've spoken to agree that, while it sucks that Sirius will get their way, saving the Alliance as a whole from bleeding is way more important.
A lot of people also expect that, with the sheer trade that the Reorte Pro-Alliance faction will get through this week, they'll reach a point where a civil war will be triggered against the RMC. After only 2 days the RMC lost a whopping 5% global influence over the system while the Pro-Alliance gained those 5%. If this trend continues both factions will be around 25% influence over Reorte at the end of the CG, triggering a Civil War state (and potentially another double sided CG for the control of the system to go with it).
Except Sirius is officially in "trial". With their victory, it will conclude the trial is successful, and they'll be welcome.
And once they get full access to all the Alliance military and intelligence network, good luck getting rid of them.
Fdev mostly work through CG. What the CG conclude send the message. Sirius win means Sirius stay and everyone's happy.
As I said earlier, the choice ATM is either Alliance WITH Sirius in it, or no Alliance. Not necessarily a good choice, but it's true nevertheless.
Fdev usually doesn't care much about BGS after the fact. Azaladshu, who instigated the mass system leave from the Fed through CG has been back to the fold for a while, but it's not mentioned. It seems most of the Fed group have been working behind the scenes as soon as they left, and many FC are around the area.
It makes some sense. Working the BGS is hard work, while everyone can participate in a CG. They don't want the more casual population to feel excluded.
Friendly reminder for everyone: The BGS is just the backdrop we play against... otherwise FD would be hamstrung from doing any sort of CG.
CGs like this are like chucking a rock in a pond- they cause ripples but eventually it goes back to being calm again.
I do gain immense enjoyment watching the Alliance guys tie themselves in knots over this though. GalNot is going to be fun next Thursday
I do gain immense enjoyment watching the Alliance guys tie themselves in knots over this though. GalNot is going to be fun next Thursday
Are they getting married ? It's so cute !
The only love they have is for kale.
My idea is for 2 sided CG, where two Super Power, Power Play factions or Factions compete should have no rewards. Fdev should create a new type of CG, 1 sided CG. 1 sided CG could be anything ranging from hauling goods for repair, build - stations or megaships to bounty hunting bonds and those types of CGs would provide rewards, Cmdrs would compete there for rewards. 2 CGs a week, one 2 sided and one 1 sided, that would most likely help with gankers stucking one single CG so heavily. If you think about it, right now 80% of Cmdrs in CGs are playing and competing for rewards and they don't care or choosing not to care about CGs cause
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Or make CG award some tokens/currency depending on the player participation you can then trade for a reward of your choice. Missed the double engineered FSD CG, but did the totally unrewarding BH CG ? Don't worry, you can trade those tokens.
Have the CG introduce the item we can buy, and if needed unlock them in the store is it reach at least some tier (like the one we already have). IE fsd size 4-5-6 is unlocked in the store depending on the tier reached.
Price them accordingly, an item usually awarded to the top 75% would be cheap, one for the top 10% wouldn't. Keep non "gear" item exclusive for one sided CG like the "name your megaship" for the colonia bridge, or the decals.
Lore wise, say it's the pilot federation handling the reward part as a true neutral party. The immersion part is not really needed, ever since we have instant respawn, big 4th wall breaking panel and teleporting blue light in Odyssey. But whatever, it's easy to make one up.
But obviously that'd mean Fdev can't manipulate the CG behind the scene, so that's never going to happen. A pity.
Have the CG introduce the item we can buy, and if needed unlock them in the store is it reach at least some tier (like the one we already have). IE fsd size 4-5-6 is unlocked in the store depending on the tier reached.
Price them accordingly, an item usually awarded to the top 75% would be cheap, one for the top 10% wouldn't. Keep non "gear" item exclusive for one sided CG like the "name your megaship" for the colonia bridge, or the decals.
Lore wise, say it's the pilot federation handling the reward part as a true neutral party. The immersion part is not really needed, ever since we have instant respawn, big 4th wall breaking panel and teleporting blue light in Odyssey. But whatever, it's easy to make one up.
But obviously that'd mean Fdev can't manipulate the CG behind the scene, so that's never going to happen. A pity.
and that is THE problem.
Adding another digital currency but from the CG still allows them to reward more currency per the side they want to win...
CG participation medals would be an example... If copying other titles as listed above was doing...
CG participation medals would be an example... If copying other titles as listed above was doing...
Taurus Prepares Mining Operation
Pilots’ Federation ALERT
Plans for a new mining initiative by Taurus Mining Ventures in the Synuefe EN-H d11-106 system have been announced.
The corporation’s megaship Heart of Taurus has been conducting scientific studies on ‘unusual radioactive signatures’ within the system. The next phase of this work is to identify mineable resources to learn more about the radiation’s effects.
Dr Ruben Carpenter, head of the Taurus Mining Ventures research division, provided an update:
“The source of the radiation found in Synuefe EN-H d11-106 has not yet been unidentified. But our team has theorised that naturally occurring ores in the system may have altered properties. If we are correct, that ore may have high commercial value once processed into usable metals and minerals.”
A public statement was delivered by Commodore Morag Halloran:
“It is paramount that we maintain positive relations with the community of independent pilots. Therefore, Taurus Mining Ventures will subcontract the forthcoming operation to members of the Pilots’ Federation. The company will be pleased to offer suitable rewards for mining these irradiated materials, details of which will be specified by Dr Carpenter in the next few days.”
Heigh-Ho, its home from work we go.
Just dock at Heart of Taurus, if it jumps you'll follow it.
Say what?
Smoke and mirrors!Say what?
I suspect EN-H was the system they originally planned for this plot line until they changed it to the other system, and they forgot to update all their internal drafts. I think CE-R is the correct system.