CG predictions...
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Are you aware of how easy (and boring) it is to farm data mats at Jameson's Cobra? One Adaptive Encryptors Capture gets you 243 points towards the CG. And it takes 10-20 minutes to get 100 Adaptive Encryptors Capture at the Cobra.
At the moment. Soon the system will be totally full of carriers and casual gamers, then you will cant do more relog farms.
Antal likes research CGs... Utopia has run at least two of them beforeI'm struggling to think of a reason why people would take part - no profit, drains your mats, not a lot of interesting gameplay in getting the mats, no personal reward. Sirius and Antal aren't the most popular companies/characters I think? I must be missing something
What do the tiers look like? we might get two failed CGs this week ... maybe no peace conference ... and galaxy-wide superpower war
Total collection amounts for previous research CGs have been very small - the record for a non-Thargoid/Guardian one was the one starting Colonia's "Tir Research Labs" story arc, which got 335k units of mostly-G1 raws from 310 contributors and was so far as I know the last research CG [1].
Highest bubble total was for Utopia's last research CG: 100k units of G2/3/4 manufactured from 2192 contributors. (Accounting for the higher material grades, a similar value to the Colonia one) ... and the previous research CGs were pre-mat traders so don't really compare (and were all much lower)
So I'd probably expect something similar this time - it's four separate G1s across a range of sources, it's conveniently located [2], so something like 500k between both seems likely, and double that plausible.
Incentives:
- they could easily have a high cash tier reward (like the Pods one) even at T1
- it's probably the first CG of the story where the three possible outcomes all lead to noticeably different directions for the plot
- if you regularly scan ships in supercruise and have done a bit of wake scanning for FSD engineering, you've probably got 900 G1 and 750 G2 which you could trade and throw in basically for free and easily recover before you need a few more of each for engineering.
With the T5 target set to 312.5M - ~1000x the previous record - it's nevertheless expecting a lot, though. Hopefully the T1 target is a bit lower!
[1] If you don't count the Colonia and WHN engineers as a research CG.
[2] Amusingly, since the destination stations are the closest to the star in both systems, and you don't lose materials on ship loss, doing the hand-in in Open in a Sidewinder allows public-spirited individuals to help you get there faster.
Erm... What?
G1 Encoded materials CG? And for no foreseeable decent reward in sight (assuming helping the underdog SImGuru is not a reward in itself)
What was the trade down rate?1x G5 => 281x G1? And 1xG4 what was it in G1? 91?
Lets see, 100 AEC means 28100 Unusual Encrypted Files... And the G4 is like another 13000
Oh well... The problem will not be the materials per se, but the trader-station commuting with 300 materials at a time.
Still, been a while since we last had a relogging CG (bridging the gap guardian collection) and i was not really looking forward for another one
Edit: scratch those - assumptions can really go to places (and bad memory does not helps with numbers either)
G1 Encoded materials CG? And for no foreseeable decent reward in sight (assuming helping the underdog SImGuru is not a reward in itself)
What was the trade down rate?
Lets see, 100 AEC means 28100 Unusual Encrypted Files... And the G4 is like another 13000
Oh well... The problem will not be the materials per se, but the trader-station commuting with 300 materials at a time.
Still, been a while since we last had a relogging CG (bridging the gap guardian collection) and i was not really looking forward for another one
Edit: scratch those - assumptions can really go to places (and bad memory does not helps with numbers either)
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I'm going to give all my excess data mats to the quiche-master. I invite others to join me.
I doubt I'll get into Jameson Cobra (it's my open-only CMDR in the bubble) so might fit a wake scanner and find somewhere populated.
I doubt I'll get into Jameson Cobra (it's my open-only CMDR in the bubble) so might fit a wake scanner and find somewhere populated.
Hmmm, a CG between two independent PowerPlay powers (though apparently without any PowerPlay consequences for those powers).
And quite a bit of "suspension of disbelief" required. They need that data to improve security for the conference, but most of it is going to come from Jameson's Cobra. So the security of a modern conference is heavily dependent on scanning and rescanning every byte of data from a ship that crashed decades ago, at a location that has been known for years.
And quite a bit of "suspension of disbelief" required. They need that data to improve security for the conference, but most of it is going to come from Jameson's Cobra. So the security of a modern conference is heavily dependent on scanning and rescanning every byte of data from a ship that crashed decades ago, at a location that has been known for years.
I'm aware of both, which is why I'd sooner spend my time encouraging the missus to make a quiche lorraine, which I now fancy thanks to Danieros... and then eating it
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what made you pick him?
Fortunately they seem to have added data traders to both host stations, so it should just be a case of hand-in, switch to trader to trade another G5 down to G1, switch back to hand-in screen, repeat x100.
Not the most interesting of activities, but given that there isn't 10 minutes travel time between trader and hand-in for each cycle (which previous research CGs did have), I'll significantly increase my earlier prediction for how much these will get - it could easily go into the tens of millions each, and the T5 targets don't seem totally unreasonable as a "if it's unexpectedly popular" hedge.
I don't get why we're forced to use material traders instead of the CG accepting higher tier materials for more points similar to how the ammonia world CG gave more contribution for mapping vs. just scanning.
The way it's currently set up aggravates existing UI problems.
It takes ~15s of holding down the button to trade in 300 G1 materials and if you're starting out with 100 G5 data then that's around 10 minutes of menu'ing to turn it in, over 8 of which are just spent holding down a button. It's bad.
The way it's currently set up aggravates existing UI problems.
It takes ~15s of holding down the button to trade in 300 G1 materials and if you're starting out with 100 G5 data then that's around 10 minutes of menu'ing to turn it in, over 8 of which are just spent holding down a button. It's bad.
Yes, noticed a bit too late they added Encoder Traders to each CG station.
Tonight's livestream should be a blast! (then again, they did one on Pod Sampling which only spend 5 minutes on the pods, so it might not be too bad 
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I don't think my carrier can help much, except by hauling players to known collection areas.
FDev: don't want us to have to keep relogging to farm materials
FDev: give us a CG (or two) where we have to keep relogging to farm materials
FDev: give us a CG (or two) where we have to keep relogging to farm materials
Sirius are Thargoid-baiting Club members.