News Chapter Four - Exploration Reveal

dayrth

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If you stopped telling him he'd given his view, maybe he would stop giving it.

(can you guess to whom I am addressing this? ;))
 
And I am entitled to ignore your statement too. You need to follow your own advice and stop responding to people as that makes you just as bad, and if FDev doesn't want people discussing it I am sure they would have told the Mods to give out warnings anyway. Discussion can help create new ideas and ways to fix the issues that people can see.

I am playing by your rules and those others have assumed within this thread. It's usefulness plummets as we exchange words.

Would you prefer this, or a productive thread the Devs can actually use to gather opinions?
 
I havent been doing 'exploration' that long ... I only have a basic DBX with a jump range of about 35ly all I do is pick a random route and at each stop off point of my max jump range I honk the horn look at what hasnt been discovered then scan everything in that system

What really hacks me off is seeing the few most valuable planet scanned *cherry picked* and nothing else.. if this stops this then great

Maybe FDev should make it that if you scan 1 body in the system then you cant leave that system until all the bodies that system have been scanned
 
I havent been doing 'exploration' that long ... I only have a basic DBX with a jump range of about 35ly all I do is pick a random route and at each stop off point of my max jump range I honk the horn look at what hasnt been discovered then scan everything in that system

What really hacks me off is seeing the few most valuable planet scanned *cherry picked* and nothing else.. if this stops this then great

Maybe FDev should make it that if you scan 1 body in the system then you cant leave that system until all the bodies have been scanned

*honk*
Ok, all the primary planets have been scanned .. other stars are way too far out of my range to bother.
*selects a star, engages frenship*
*Message: You cannot leave the system until you've scanned EVERYTHING!"
But.. the closest star in this system is 1.5 hours away ...
*Message: EVERYTHING!!!!!!! *e-froth*
 
What disappoints me the most in this thread is the unreasonable selfish attitude of the ADS haters, compromises (some good some bad) have been suggested yet a couple of people are vehemently against any sort of compromise (one was already on my ignore list and now the other joins them)...that IMO is unreasonable and I sincerely hope FD do NOT listen to that viewpoint.

The problem with exploring was never the ADS, it was the DSS's complete lack of gameplay.
Suggestions to reduce the effectiveness of the ADS are IMO a reasonable compromise. But keep all the new stuff for surface scanning and the detail stuff. But also keep the ability as now to fly up to the planet for those that want to stay in the cockpit (not that FD ever said that was being removed).

The BEST games give players multiple ways to accomplish their goals.

This. A thousand times.

I havent been doing 'exploration' that long ... I only have a basic DBX with a jump range of about 35ly all I do is pick a random route and at each stop off point of my max jump range I honk the horn look at what hasnt been discovered then scan everything in that system

What really hacks me off is seeing the few most valuable planet scanned *cherry picked* and nothing else.. if this stops this then great

Maybe FDev should make it that if you scan 1 body in the system then you cant leave that system until all the bodies that system have been scanned

Or maybe you should fly more than 500LY outside the bubble where you're able to find completely pristine systems with no real difficulty.
 
*honk*
Ok, all the primary planets have been scanned .. other stars are way too far out of my range to bother.
*selects a star, engages frenship*
*Message: You cannot leave the system until you've scanned EVERYTHING!"
But.. the closest star in this system is 1.5 hours away ...
*Message: EVERYTHING!!!!!!! *e-froth*

There are flaws to every proposal, it may be more helpful to state what you want rather than what you don't want, assuming you haven't already done so. The post you replied to does this. Different players want different things from the game and compromise is inevitable.
 
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Why would that not be an acceptable compromise?

I don't disagree with you necessarily btw, but it isn't clear why you think it's bad.

I’m not saying it’s bad, but it does make the scanning and tuning mechanic pointless as the planets could be found/scanned much quicker via targeting in the system map and then quickly finding in the new interface. Effectively giving the DSS unlimited range it would send the “ADS unlimited range is bad” camp into a bigger fit as it really wouldn’t be a compromise at all.
 
There are flaws to every proposal, it may be more helpful to state what you want rather than what you don't want, assuming you haven't already done so. The post you replied to does this. Different players want different things from the game and compromise is inevitable.

Thanks, dad.

I was trying to inject some humour into yet another thread whose tag should be: Argue Room #1435.
 
This. A thousand times.



Or maybe you should fly more than 500LY outside the bubble where you're able to find completely pristine systems with no real difficulty.

Im about 6000ly outside the bubble and still coming across sytems where the odd planet has been scanned and nothing else
 
I’m not saying it’s bad, but it does make the scanning and tuning mechanic pointless as the planets could be found/scanned much quicker via targeting in the system map and then quickly finding in the new interface. Effectively giving the DSS unlimited range it would send the “ADS unlimited range is bad” camp into a bigger fit as it really wouldn’t be a compromise at all.

The ADS already has unlimited range, the plan is to change that and some are not happy with this. Clearly infinite range is something FDev want to change, as do others. Some will be upset either way. The post you replied to was attempting to find an acceptable compromise. You could suggest your own if you haven't already done so. Your suggestion will not be perfect either, and will just prioritise differently based on your own experience.

Leaving some semblance of the existing mechanism is a reasonable suggestion.
 
Thanks, dad.

I was trying to inject some humour into yet another thread whose tag should be: Argue Room #1435.

Humour isn't my goal. Any joke that needs to be explained is not a good joke imo. Try to address the OP if you can, it is what they have asked for.
 
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The ADS already has unlimited range, the plan is to change that and some are not happy with this. Clearly infinite range is something FDev want to change, as do others. Some will be upset either way. The post you replied to was attempting to find an acceptable compromise. You could suggest your own if you haven't already done so. Your suggestion will not be perfect either, and will just prioritise differently based on your own experience.

Leaving some semblance of the existing mechanism is a reasonable suggestion.

From what I can tell the new DS will also have unlimited range.
 
These exploration threads are really going down hill today.

FD I think you need to give us a demo... or at least walk us through it with a Q&A session.
 
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This may come as a surprise to you but the very same impression also goes the other way around. [noob]

It is going to be difficult to find a compromise that doesn't fall between two stools, and the solution may be not to try but to pick one stool or another. Hope that it is your stool that is chosen.

If you address your concerns & any suggestions to the OP there is a chance your voice will be heard, and taken into account. Inevitably others will do the same & may not agree with your own view.
 
These exploration threads are really going down hill today.

FD I think you need to give us a demo...

They will, I look forward to seeing it in the flesh too. We have been given information early, because the community asked for it. Expect the update to be released at the end of the year, any beta test will be a week or more before planned release.
 
I am playing by your rules and those others have assumed within this thread. It's usefulness plummets as we exchange words.

Would you prefer this, or a productive thread the Devs can actually use to gather opinions?

You are not playing by my rules. I am not in a position to decide the forum rules and neither are you.
 
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