Cheating in Elite Dangerous

[Northpin]

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Now this is very encouraging for FDev and really supporting too ...

Not really sure what you guys hoped you will achieve with this campaign against FDev - but it seems that you were expecting just this official response to give them a couple more whips.

 

[Garud]

This thread has seen massive support from the forum. Not sure what you're talking about.

C'mon. The PvP people have always done their bit in bringing certain things to attention. Let's stop these personal attacks. Its the cheaters that we should be working against, not each other and certainly not the devs.

 

[Midian Cabal]

I agree it would be better to get more than a canned response but any response is still better than nothing.

Fundamentally there is a trust issue - you want to be able to trust that FDev are on the case. I'd like that too.

How do you feel when you get a canned response from support?

 

[Morbad]

How do you feel when you get a canned response from support?

At least someone at Frontier read the thread...

Will's acknowledgement, while rather underwhelming, is about all I'd expect.

 

[ryan_m]

They want a gold medal, and a ticker-tape parade for exposing something that FD was likely already aware of. Some how people get the idea that FD, or any developer, has to meet their standards. We've seen it before. If FD don;t snap to and react like they want, they resort to bully tactics and lashing out. If FD just sent them a gold star for sending, yet another, video, this sort of tantrum wouldn't go on.

Nah, we want people using these scripts to be banned from the game. Nothing more, nothing less. We tried to do it quietly for 6 months with FDev but they did nothing about it. Unfortunately, this is a pattern of behavior for FDev which is why you see the skepticism of the response. Generally, when you get caught with your pants down like this, that necessitates a different response than the same canned one sent to everyone that submits a ticket.

Might be time for you to take a break from this post since you seem to let personal grievances drive your responses rather than what is actually happening.

 

[Mohrgan]

How do you feel when you get a canned response from support?

Why would you expect anything more? FD are following their policy, just like they have through all of the other crisis. Acknowledgement, and an explanation that you won;t get a public hanging. Looking for special treatment is the trouble with this line of the discussion.

Good on the players that brought this to the community's attention. But, I'm not convinced FD were in the dark. Whipping up a fervor over and over again about how FD goes about theor business has become a cottage industry. It's perfect for getting 'clicks' and 'likes'. It's sure to be left open ended, and the outrage can be dipped into at any time. Just follow the Combat Logging debates. As soon as this outrage episode subsides, we're sure to get more of those.

 

[Nova Viper Dwagon]

This topic is now full of people insulting each other over pointless opinunes, Who has the gosh darn popcorn!

 

[Mohrgan]

Nah, we want people using these scripts to be banned from the game. Nothing more, nothing less. We tried to do it quietly for 6 months with FDev but they did nothing about it. Unfortunately, this is a pattern of behavior for FDev which is why you see the skepticism of the response. Generally, when you get caught with your pants down like this, that necessitates a different response than the same canned one sent to everyone that submits a ticket.

Might be time for you to take a break from this post since you seem to let personal grievances drive your responses rather than what is actually happening.

Right, they didn't satisfy your sense of justice, so you must punish them. I got ya.

No surprises here.

 

[Zaphod Hawke]

Right, they didn't satisfy your sense of justice, so you must punish them. I got ya.

No surprises here.

You worried?

 

[ryan_m]

Right, they didn't satisfy your sense of justice, so you must punish them. I got ya.

No surprises here.

Do you think it's reasonable for nothing to be done to a publicly available hack after being reported 6 months ago? If the answer to that is "yes" then I'm not really sure why you're here.

 

[Mohrgan]

You worried?

Sure. I mean someone might want to blow up my space pixels. Who wouldn't be worried?

 

[Midian Cabal]

Why would you expect anything more? FD are following their policy, just like they have through all of the other crisis. Acknowledgement, and an explanation that you won;t get a public hanging. Looking for special treatment is the trouble with this line of the discussion.

Good on the players that brought this to the community's attention. But, I'm not convinced FD were in the dark. Whipping up a fervor over and over again about how FD goes about theor business has become a cottage industry. It's perfect for getting 'clicks' and 'likes'. It's sure to be left open ended, and the outrage can be dipped into at any time. Just follow the Combat Logging debates. As soon as this outrage episode subsides, we're sure to get more of those.

Don't change the subject please. I asked you how do you feel after contacting support regarding your problem, getting a canned response and don't see any action taken after 6 months?

 

[Mohrgan]

Do you think it's reasonable for nothing to be done to a publicly available hack after being reported 6 months ago? If the answer to that is "yes" then I'm not really sure why you're here.

Yes. The operative word here is 'publicly'. That is completely unnecessary. Just consider that many of the cheaters may be children. Children have to be handles differently. FD have, over and over again stated that they won;t comment on discilplinary actions. Get over it.

I am here to offer an opinion just like you are.

 

[Vedmo]

Do you think it's reasonable for nothing to be done to a publicly available hack after being reported 6 months ago? If the answer to that is "yes" then I'm not really sure why you're here.

You yourself posted images of people who use the hacks talking about what Frontier are doing about it.

I'm 100% on board with permabans and hope Frontier can find better technical ways to counter it, but to say nothing is being done is just dishonest.

 

[Commander Biscuit]

New drinking game. Every time a streamer uses the word "hacker" "cheater".

 

[cheesenbiscuits]

C'mon. The PvP people have always done their bit in bringing certain things to attention. Let's stop these personal attacks. Its the cheaters that we should be working against, not each other and certainly not the devs.

The Judian People’s Front?!

 

[WorldsGreatestForumDad]

If they are going to call this game a AAA game. I'd expect them to treat it like one. This goes for more than the cheating thing too.

 

[Mohrgan]

Don't change the subject please. I asked you how do you feel after contacting support regarding your problem, getting a canned response and don't see any action taken after 6 months?

It is exactly what I would expect. I get those kinds of responses throughout the gaming world when I have made a complaint, or pointed out a probelm. I can report and move on, and I am surprised at just how many peeps can't.

 

[Zaphod Hawke]

Sure. I mean someone might want to blow up my space pixels. Who wouldn't be worried?

I hate to be the one to break it to you, but cheating isn't the proper solution.

Maybe a public banning would do the community some good.

Yes. The operative word here is 'publicly'. That is completely unnecessary. Just consider that many of the cheaters may be children. Children have to be handles differently. FD have, over and over again stated that they won;t comment on discilplinary actions. Get over it.

I am here to offer an opinion just like you are.

 

[zimms]

It is exactly what I would expect. I get those kinds of responses throughout the gaming world when I have made a complaint, or pointed out a probelm. I can report and move on, and I am surprised at just how many peeps can't.

Because for some this is a bigger problem than for others and for them "move on" would probably mean to a different game.