Fake achievement. Likewise so for combat cheats, but with added ruining of others gameplay. Even real but honest griefer gankers are light years better in my books.
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I guess achievements in game have never been of any particular interest to me, so what someone else "achieves" has little impact on my enjoyment. I can understand how explorers might feel robbed of their actual achievement when a cheater does whatever they do to get ahead. Being insta-killed by a cheating sociopathic scum-bag though, that'd irk me.
I think griefers are still sociopaths, I mean, where's the fun in killing an easy to kill player? Isn't the fun of PvP in a challenging match-up? I don't get it. They're not cheaters sure, do no T&C's broken, but I don't really understand what they get out of a zero-challenge interaction like that.
Same thing real life bullies do….it’s a power trip to them. Online it’s a case of “because they can” and their lives are that sad, pathetic and emotionally empty, they get their kicks out of casing others’ misery.
Well what I mean by achievement in exploration is not competitive one. I do not care if somebody gets "ahead" of me. Mostly it is just that I compete against myself. Am I tenacious enough to get there and back. And so on. If I cheat, in the end only one I cheat is myself.
No such thing in a persistent multiplayer game where the setting reacts to player actions, even where that agency is as marginal as what ED provides.
Everyone can see who tagged what and exploration data is probably going to make it back to the bubble and shift faction influences around. Even the credit rewards will go to funding other endeavors, though that was far more meaningful in the past.
It wasn't my ship, and you are missing the point. For every CMDR brazen enough to put a Thargoid shutdown field on their ship, there's probably dozens who choose a more subtle approach. FDev apparently implemented a P2P protocol without sanity checks on the receiving side. That means anyone can make their weapons and defenses as powerful as they wish. Doesn't have to be 1000 times more powerful, could be just twice or 1.5 times more powerful. Low enough to remain undetected, but high enough to dominate 95% of all PvP encounters.
Exploits like these destroy the competitive nature of the game, and banning individual players does nothing to address that problem. Not to mention that at this point we can only hope that FDev at least implemented basic boundary checks to prevent buffer overflows and remote code execution in the client. Considering their less than stellar track record in QA, it's probably wise to stay in solo for now.
A follow-on and possibly drifting off-topic. If these are the correct payouts for such a system, there's not much point in cheating for the cash:
Well I did not think about that. Good point.
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or switch to Console.
You guys keep summoning me here and i just noticed i only answered users without telling what i think about the topic.
Every game will have its cheaters, it's not an idea, it's a fact. Debating it is healthy for the game and helpful for the community of honest players since it helps to raise awareness about it thus reducing the grappling of cheating. Only those interested in the thriving of cheats will try to bring shadow and confusion over the topic.
Thanks to the experience of older explorers that posted in this topic, we found a reasonable explanation for the point i rised, yet it does not invalidate the possibilities that it could've been achieved through cheating nor of cheating in exploration. Explanations regarding the game's mechanics does not give any certainty in this point because the manipulation would happen in the technical level (i.e. programing/bit manipulation) of the game.
Games have been ruined by cheaters before and companies have invested millions in anti cheat assets so far. Here's an interesting example of how Riot handles the suject.
It is naive and dangerous to believe nobody could be exploiting a game or a particular aspect of it and it's wicked to deceive people in such idea, a thing that would only be of interest of cheaters themselves and those who make profit off it. It could also be propagated by those who wrongly think they know it all, which are doing a free disservice to our community safety.
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Every game will have its cheaters, it's not an idea, it's a fact. Debating it is healthy for the game and helpful for the community of honest players since it helps to raise awareness about it thus reducing the grappling of cheating. Only those interested in the thriving of cheats will try to bring shadow and confusion over the topic.
Thanks to the experience of older explorers that posted in this topic, we found a reasonable explanation for the point i rised, yet it does not invalidate the possibilities that it could've been achieved through cheating nor of cheating in exploration. Explanations regarding the game's mechanics does not give any certainty in this point because the manipulation would happen in the technical level (i.e. programing/bit manipulation) of the game.
Games have been ruined by cheaters before and companies have invested millions in anti cheat assets so far. Here's an interesting example of how Riot handles the suject.
It is naive and dangerous to believe nobody could be exploiting a game or a particular aspect of it and it's wicked to deceive people in such idea, a thing that would only be of interest of cheaters themselves and those who make profit off it. It could also be propagated by those who wrongly think they know it all, which are doing a free disservice to our community safety.
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I'd suggest inversely associated with intelligence.
Because flying in open in a 3D shielded Asp with a Billion in Explo data is a sign of intelligence?
Because flying in open in a 3D shielded Asp with a Billion in Explo data is a sign of intelligence?
Heh, far from it, assuming you're relatively familiar with the game play. However, being an inexperienced player, flying so proudly in your newly-acquired Cobra Mk III finally and leaving the starting systems with barely enough for a rebuy...well, that's forgivable I'd have thought.
So, yeah, flying in that poorly-equipped Asp, with no bounty on your head, no cargo of value (to anyone else)... well, I still find it odd that someone would want to kill that person.
Basically do not do that one third of originals game ranking stuff in Open at all.Because flying in open in a 3D shielded Asp with a Billion in Explo data is a sign of intelligence?
Likewise trading in Open is idiots move. Open is for bragging and combat.
Speaking of the most recent incident involving the sqdn commander of a supposed anti-ganking squadron I'd like to know why only he was banned and not the rest of them because the entire squadron was involved and using their own web tools that implemented the ToS violating technology?This is a post to Fdev to be honest but I would welcome your views.
"Some have used IP addresses to track people down to get an instance with them"
I'd like to know what Fdev are doing about this problem to be honest.
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The squadron in question should be forcibly dissolved at the very least and the rest of their leadership kicked from the game.
Trolling attempt? I somewhat doubt that you are new here and do not know that these questions were never answered. Rules creation and decision making is fully in Frontier hands and they are applying "no comments" policy regarding concrete cases. Amount of hate following PvP in this game is strong enough to perfectly justify theirs choice how to dealt with cheating or TOS breachs.
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Why is asking for an entire organization that was involved in cheating to be removed from game trolling?