CODE blockade and roleplay

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Oh of course that's what you meant.
Silly me for not adding the extra words in to your sentence for you
Bossbrigand and I encountered one another prior to this and had our differences, he understands well of what I meant since it isn't the first time I advocated my philosophy on that point. Perhaps a little less plucking bones out of an egg would be more productive, but of course, entitled discretion.
 
Hmm i wonder if CODE are willing to do a pirate for a day system where they pick up some would be pirates from here and take them out for a spin to show them what's it like to be a pirate of CODE.
 
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Bossbrigand and I encountered one another prior to this and had our differences, he understands well of what I meant since it isn't the first time I advocated my philosophy on that point. Perhaps a little less plucking bones out of an egg would be more productive, but of course, entitled discretion.

Doesn't look like that from what he posted - category 2 for this post of yours he might say ;)
 
Hmm i wonder if CODE are willing to do a pirate for a day system where they pick up some would be pirates from here and take them out for a spin to show them what's it like to be a pirate of CODE.

I should imagine it would be like going into a pet shop and kicking some kittens around.
 
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Doesn't look like that from what he posted - category 2 for this post of yours he might say ;)
Again, his prior encounter with me created a very overt expression of my philosophical ideology when it comes to interacting with standpoints other than my own. I do not see what is unclear about it.
 
Either you do or you don't. You failed. I was on your side. That you were not the same code as in eve then you call me a troll LOL


I have forgotten the context of the messages flying around, if I did indeed wrongly accuse you of attempting to flamebait, I sincerely apologize.

However, I hold firm to the point that a standard of comprehension can be loose in the sense that despite there seems to be an ideal standard that everyone conforms to, the individual always deviates either slightly or severely. Therefore the expectation of someone understanding you completely to your standard of how comprehension should function is a little silly, in my perspective of course.

But again, you are entitled to think differently, merely defending a point here.
 
Again, his prior encounter with me created a very overt expression of my philosophical ideology when it comes to interacting with standpoints other than my own. I do not see what is unclear about it.

The failing is yours then.
Please don't bother replying as I'm done biting now I'm finished at work
 
There is absolutely nothing that prevents good guy players from banding together and shooting us, escorting traders etc.. Except greed. Traders don't want to be slowed down by having to hire, pay and coordinate with a wing of other players.. We gave up that greed when we decided to pirate, knowing it is very difficult to make a profit doing it, traders are unwilling to sacrifice their profit margin, but if they did, they could repel us and travel in safety

risk vs reward -- exactly what this game should be about (in open).

if you just want to trade in peace, fly solo or mobius.. absolutely *nobody* is trying to stop you.

This is the problem with many on this forum.

Some just want a easy trader run to get their big ship (then go into open a blow others up).. Others are really scared by what "may" happen to them in open, they get this from reading about others experiences.

To me the options above is what will make this game great and if the game doesn't take the interaction to the next level this game will founder. Great games last for years and if this is all the current interaction there is this game will not last that long..

Players need to have more of a belonging to the environment and a purpose, (mindlessly grinding to a Anna in solo is a poor long term purpose), I notice guilds was mentioned earlier much to the discuss of the usual suspects.

The benefit with guilds is it creates a far more enriching experience, a purpose to an otherwise boring game.

The problem is more clear when there's one CG for players to bring cargo to such and such station, but no opposing CG. The only way for someone who opposes the principle of the CG to "fight" it would be to interdict and destroy traders in the area, but if the majority of participants are hiding in Solo...

There was also a combat CG for Federal pilots (no counter goal) where Imperial pilots were ready and willing to kill Federal pilots in Open (and outnumbered them in CZs) but the Federal goal still won due almost certainly to Solo players.


I feel this needs to be addressed as everybody will just go to solo and it will always be who has the most players.. Will get pretty old real quick..

Hi Commanders,

However I believe we all agree that, whether you play a honest trader or a bad guy, we all like to see as many players as possible in open play. Arriving to a system and seeing only 1-2 hollow icons on the scanner is like...meh...
For this reason, don't you think that any actions driving players out of open mode should be avoided?

You want to PvP/kill for fun, fine but shouldn't you select a challenging opponent and/or drop a line telling him to be ready to fight/die? This should bring them a smile when their ship pops and think "hell yeah, Elite is dangerous!".
You are doing a blockade and ask a T6/7/9 to drop all cargo related to the Community Goal, fine. But telling them to never come back or be killed on sight, why? You know they will not abandon the CG and are basically pushing them to do it solo for a while.
Doing this kind of stuff leads to less players in open play, meaning less fun for everybody including you, no?

One more time, I do not want to argue here, just want to hear your thoughts.

You know the saying "never let the truth get in the road of a good story". Well it is pretty relevant in this case.

There is a particular personality type who seem to be attracted to this forum.. They see somebody post something about a players killing them so they go on their rants about "I'm gonna be nobody's fun bla bla bla" even though they haven't experienced anything like that themselves.

After a while Open becomes this Grifer filled hell hole, full of rampid pirates killing everything in sight. Then every time a new post turns up they will come in like flies to rotten meat, parroting their horrible truths and "experiences".

'I WILL NOT HAVE MY GAME PLAY DICTATED TO ME BY OTHERS!!!!!" they cry all the while never really having experienced what they perceived to be fact..

It is a bit sad really and more importantly it means new players come to the forums (like I did) to find stuff out get this "take" on the open world which quite frankly is total bull . I was totally scared to go to open when I first started..

Solo players who... paid just as much (if not more) for this game as you did?

If you are a 100% solo players wouldn't you be happy to have you own galaxy which wasn't affected by the open world?? The issue is those who choose to inhabit both to make goals easier for them..

Just get a trading conda you say? Well I'm new to elite and right now the T-6 is all I can afford, I'm not even close to getting a Clipper let alone an anaconda. Bottom line is piracy is out of control during these community goal events and Frontier needs to fix the system security because right now they are useless.
I will stick to solo until Frontier provides decent security for us lonely T-6's.

You have to be smarter as a player. Always submit to interdiction so you can get out of there quickly, do what the pirates ask, you have lost 10 minutes of you time big deal.. Make sure you have insurance covered..

What happens when a NPC interdicts you?? That happens far more than any CMDR does for sure, why doesn't anybody complain about NPC's (other than the fact they are easy t deal with.)

I naver had any trouble in my T6 but I stuck to the less populated areas..

What FD need to do it to increase the interaction options and make it profitable for players to interact. Make escorting traders a profitable trade, this would add so much to the interactive part of the game.. Give players the options to join groups and show their group in their name so we know if somebody belongs a a system or what not (not guilds peer see).
 
Bossbrigand and I encountered one another prior to this and had our differences, he understands well of what I meant since it isn't the first time I advocated my philosophy on that point. Perhaps a little less plucking bones out of an egg would be more productive, but of course, entitled discretion.

Again, his prior encounter with me created a very overt expression of my philosophical ideology when it comes to interacting with standpoints other than my own. I do not see what is unclear about it.

I have forgotten the context of the messages flying around, if I did indeed wrongly accuse you of attempting to flamebait, I sincerely apologize.

However, I hold firm to the point that a standard of comprehension can be loose in the sense that despite there seems to be an ideal standard that everyone conforms to, the individual always deviates either slightly or severely. Therefore the expectation of someone understanding you completely to your standard of how comprehension should function is a little silly, in my perspective of course.

But again, you are entitled to think differently, merely defending a point here.

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[...] stringing words together in ways that don't really fit with each other or what you're replying to [...]

That's all I have to say about that.
 
But apparently you came to an understanding and are best buds now - that's what Glut keeps telling me!

Oh and Glut, one more thing; abooogely booogely booogely booogely

I'm not sure if he's saying that on purpose or if it's a consequence of misusing words in an attempt to sound "intellectual." Either way it simply is not the case.
 
I assume you are a CODE member. The blockade in Diso was completely pointless and useless. I was protecting traders or at least trying to. To be interdicted by a wing of CODE who then opened fire without chatting meant the blockade did not work as their resources were being tied up in trying to force me out of Diso. I couldn't understand CODE's approach of "we don't want bounty hunters in Diso" backed up by overwhelming force of Anacondas, Pythons and Clippers since I had little chance of survival because I was outgunned. Traders who were brave enough to fly in Open carried on their trade regardless, others continued in Solo/Group.

If CODE's approach was to harrass traders, why did they target bounty hunters? I can understand if wings of bounty hunters with similar firepower to CODE's were there, but generally speaking the bounty hunters were flying alone in smaller ships. I think CODE should adopt different principles or pursue other interests since they can't influence the outcome of CG's even though they have big guns.

Admitted CODE was using game mechanics quite effectively and I learnt quite a few things, but were I a CODE member I would have found the blockade boring.

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If you can call mugging a profession:D

I am. Do not expect us to provide any communication if you provoked our members first. To us, attacking us or attempting to hunt us usually warrant KoS or direct lethal response. If you did not provoke us and we failed to communicate with you, that is entirely on us, but I don't expect any members to fall out of line to that extent.

Our purpose is to support independent NPC factions and pirate with the empirical code in mind. We dislike bounty hunters in the Lave cluster in general because it disrupts our piracy. Therefore I don't see the validity of your complaint other than that you were agitated about us chasing you out of the system. That policy has been in existence for quite a while.

If we want to be effective in the CG intervention, we need to clear the obstacles, and apparently you made yourself one (emphasis on apparently). Therefore I suppose I can spare sympathy or condolence depending on if you were merely damaged or boiled up.

The CG mechanic currently is difficult to stop for that players can simply log out into Solo/Private Group. We do our best, but procedural ideology and substantive result are two different things, the former is more important since it is much more stable and predictable.

Also, entitled to your opinion. I consider piracy a profession.
 
But apparently you came to an understanding and are best buds now - that's what Glut keeps telling me!

Oh and Glut, one more thing; abooogely booogely booogely booogely

You are entitled to the interpretation you made from my post entirely, but personally I hold respect for Bossbrigand precisely because of my philosophical perspective on interacting with foreign aspects. As to whether that grants us an amiable relationship, I believe I do not know Bossbrigand personally enough to call him a friend, yet.

Differences exist for a reason, instead of trampling over people because of them, I believe reconciliation and compromise are better solutions.

On another note, I don't think I can parse what you are saying to me into anything relevant so forgive me for ignoring it.

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I'm not sure if he's saying that on purpose or if it's a consequence of misusing words in an attempt to sound "intellectual." Either way it simply is not the case.

I do not believe I am stretching beyond a vocabulary level that I am comfortable with, but I agree with you that I do not consider us friends, yet, due to my lack of understand of you as a person.
 
I'm not sure if he's saying that on purpose or if it's a consequence of misusing words in an attempt to sound "intellectual." Either way it simply is not the case.

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Nail on the head :)
 
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