Code blockading Sothis

So you bought a video game, and you dare think that you can bring balance to it, in game, to what you think is broken or not working as intended, to your opinion...

HAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHHAH !

Ok, I really can't take your group "RP" seriously anymore : It is immersion breaker.

Just fill a ticket and send it to the relevant support team if you think something is not working as intended, to your opinion.

Or find a better story teller to "justify" your actions in game.

Or, well, who cares anymore ?

Just go and have fun ! :D


They went with THAT as their "RP"?

Look, I don't hate Code like a lot of players seem to (I actually think it really gets pathetic sometimes, the effort some people put in just to belittle and offend Code players. Sooo much frustration showing there)
But using this as their reason for the blockade is just laughable. Come on, it isnt even roleplaying; they're using real life stuff (complaining about balance in the game) as an argument for an in-universe blockade.
Last time they blocked a CG it was exactly the same. Using some out-of-universe reason for their in game actions. THAT'S NOT ROLEPLAYING.

How about the suggestion Ziggy made earlier in the thread? That actually could have been a very good RP-reason for the blockade.
This one: Unable to deal with the influx of criminal behaviour in Sothis, Sothis Security has made a controversial move hiring a fledging rag tag group of pirates who were twiddling their thumbs to deal with the problem, to institute a blockade.

Come on Code, put in some more effort and you might actually contribute to this game. But this is just silly and bad RP.
 
I think Frontier has nothing done wrong with the multiplayer! Code can act like they want, because they "follow their own trail"! Thats one of the reasons I bought Elite Dangerous: The freedom to do whatever I want! Maybe some Code Members have a dubios morality, but they shouldn't be punished by the devs, they should be punished by real Commanders, who are willing to fight for their values! That's the Game!
 
I like The Code blockading places - whether for the cargo or kills. Good luck to them. :)

It's usually fairly predictable where they will turn up, and in the case of Sothis it's easily avoided by anyone who isn't attracted by the "make 20MCr an hour!!!!!!" hysteria about Sothis on the internet.

On the other hand, any CMDR who looks for themselves (rather than flying wherever the internet tells them they'll get rich) can easily avoid Sothis and pick up these missions elsewhere, and any CMDR who fancies running a pvp blockade knows that Sothis is where they'll find their best gameplay.

I was hoping that this weekend's CGs would include another nice smuggling one, or one that would be blockaded, but the only one that looks good for that is the slave-trading one and I really don't want to do a slave trading CG. So I might head out to Sothis to join in the "Blockade Running CG" that The Code have created, and then use my profits to pay for the discounted no-ranks-required clipper that those nasty slave-traders have unlocked for me. :)

See you in Sothis guys! Yarrrr! OX
 
Agreed, but at least before this exploit, there was a fairly well paced progression and way of doing things. I have never devoted myself to trading or merit grinding and my earnings have remained below 250 million since before 1.3, but I'm happy with enough to fund my viper and FDL - I like small, fast ships. Other friends of mine do trade or grind merits in power play, dovoting a couple of hours an evening to this, and every few weeks or months I will hear how they have finally earned enough to buy a python, or a conda, etc. Even though I do not grind in this way, I respect the players who do. As MrSpoonsi says above, this exploit will change what used to take weeks or months, into a day or two's work and this can only ruin the game.
It's not a matter of the rich and powerful worrying that the new players will be able to afford big ships and threaten them, it's a worry that the already established Elite will reach GOD MODE. Who wants to take their newly earned conda with a half dozen rebuys against a syndicate of players who all have condas, who do not worry about dying in them?
I know for a fact that one or two player groups, with many billionaires to begin with, have been hitting this exploit harder than anyone, making 2-4 billion out of it already.

I'm sure some people have been hammering it - but I don't see how it makes that much difference tbh.

I think it's fair to say that you guys are amongst the current "bogeymen" in Elite right now and it's easy enough to avoid you - for anyone that wants to even in open - that's the just the way the game is. So the same applies to a fleet of Conda gazzillionaires - no?
 
It was fun

See you again soon

Majinvash
The Voice of Open

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You have played CQC right? Its not very good.

Its fun for about an hour, once you have ranked up to about level 20 and come top almost every game.

There isn't much left to do.

Majinvash
The Voice of Open

How seriously I take this person...

He has a fake cartoon avatar holding a gun...

Cough...
 
it's a worry that the already established Elite will reach GOD MODE. Who wants to take their newly earned conda with a half dozen rebuys against a syndicate of players who all have condas, who do not worry about dying in them?

One good thing still remains true - CRs can not buy you PvP skill ;)

But yes, its a second class citizen feeling sometimes - if you do not grind and do not use exploits in this game.
 
As laughable as MajinVash's avatar is, I've got to say that the concept that your avatar gives you some sort of internet cred that lends your comments some intangible authority is equally laughable.

I'd agree with this, both of you have avatars of loser kids holding a gun. Nothing to do with the discussion. So is there gonna be a big anti code group heading out that way too ?
I might go to practice claiming insurance.
 
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I'm sure some people have been hammering it - but I don't see how it makes that much difference tbh.

I think it's fair to say that you guys are amongst the current "bogeymen" in Elite right now and it's easy enough to avoid you - for anyone that wants to even in open - that's the just the way the game is. So the same applies to a fleet of Conda gazzillionaires - no?

Regarding "You guys", as well as the code, there are player bounty hunters and 'good guys' out there too who have never killed another player in anger, who are joining in with this out of disgust for the Sothis exploit. CMDR Morbad, for instance, has always been an avid and very effective pirate hunter, has become so angered as to join in the same pursuit as his natural enemies - you will see a new kind of bad guy griefer emerge from all this and it will be those who are remaining quiet now, as they hit the 4 billion + mark through the exploit.
 
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What is so wrong with Sothis from an overall ED point of view? when you could have a player who starts in the morning in a sidewider, and 8 hours later is flying a conda, something is very very wrong.

Did anyone ever try this at all or is this mere hyperbole? For a start, you need a very high trade rank to even get some good missions. Then you can probably only take a single of those in a Sidewinder due to the small cargo space. The ramp up time alone, getting to a more effective ship (e.g. Cobra), higher trade rank etc. is probably way more than your 8 hour figure, and that is only when a player may begin saving up to an Anaconda, if they so desire to make a bee-line for that ship.
 
The correct RP for Sothis is thus:

Code are a pirate organization, it lives off pirating players. The other night I hung around the 2 CGs, and guess what? there are practically zero people doing the CGs now, everyone and his dog are at Sothis.

What is so wrong with Sothis from a pirating point of view? you have lots of traffic going in empty and leaving to scattered systems, it is almost impossible to pirate. With that said, Code is helping Elite Dangerous return to normality, we are encouraging people back to the CGs, their rare runs, their trade routes.

What is so wrong with Sothis from an overall ED point of view? when you could have a player who starts in the morning in a sidewider, and 8 hours later is flying a conda, something is very very wrong.

The Code will add balance, yes some will get through the blockade, some will boast how they live in Solo, that is not the point. There is an active blockade and ships are being removed as fast as we can (who disregard the blockade notice), last night it was around 30 ships.

I´m not the first to tell you that your skills in telling a coherent story could not be worse.

What does "lives off pirating people" mean? You take this few tons of cargo in sothis? I guess not.
Also you complain that the bubble is empty, no1 is into the community goals, which is just untrue. A friendly commander taking part in the Achenar CG told me exactly the opposite, just yesterday evening. I don´t know about the other CGs, as theres pretty many of them right now.

And if you watch the numbers closely, how many ships passed through Sothis last 24h, then try to think about it just a little, you will see that there are not so many unique cmdrs at all, I would guess we are about 300 to 500 people in total. Idk if the Open/Solo exploit counts to that too. But even if not, there should be more than enough Cmdrs left over in the rest of the galaxy.

Now take the number of Cmdrs and multiply it with the average load (i guess about 50 tons) and you will see its very very little stuff in total, so no fear to destroy any economy.

I think FD should tweak those missions too, maybe just give you more tons to transport for a high payout mission, so stacking is not an issue anymore. Apart from that these missions are great fun to do, you just have to stay awake and focused (sure, FD can improve some stuff like NPCs tracking you down). And the payout is ok too, because it´s just another way of making this amount of money. Like bountyhunting for ALD, trading in a type 9 and since 1.4 even mining.
So for me FD put this in the perfectly right direction. And I don´t feel it´s your right or you have that special position as "Code" to tell them what should and what should not be in the game, just to fit your style of play.

It´s not up to you to "add balance" and I´m thankful for that.

Looking at how you act ingame I can see no RP anymore, apart from some shortcut messages. You just want a fight. Which is very ok for me. But you could maybe find a better way to organise your hooligan-tours, haven´t you had a combat thing on the betaservers? I can imagine it was a good thing to actually have someone that wants a fight with you.

Let´s be honest, the only Cmdrs you killed were either the ones tried to win against a proper battleship, or the ones who didn´t learn how to escape from interdiction. To sum it up, it must have been pretty unexperienced pilots, so not that big of a challange.

Nothing to be especially proud of. So get better, please.
 
They went with THAT as their "RP"?

Look, I don't hate Code like a lot of players seem to (I actually think it really gets pathetic sometimes, the effort some people put in just to belittle and offend Code players. Sooo much frustration showing there)
But using this as their reason for the blockade is just laughable. Come on, it isnt even roleplaying; they're using real life stuff (complaining about balance in the game) as an argument for an in-universe blockade.
Last time they blocked a CG it was exactly the same. Using some out-of-universe reason for their in game actions. THAT'S NOT ROLEPLAYING.

How about the suggestion Ziggy made earlier in the thread? That actually could have been a very good RP-reason for the blockade.
This one: Unable to deal with the influx of criminal behaviour in Sothis, Sothis Security has made a controversial move hiring a fledging rag tag group of pirates who were twiddling their thumbs to deal with the problem, to institute a blockade.

Come on Code, put in some more effort and you might actually contribute to this game. But this is just silly and bad RP.

Roleplayers roleplay because they enjoy it. Code 'roleplays' to justify what they enjoy doing. Their rp will never improve, and as such I suggest they just dont bother. Just say "we are bored and want to shoot traders for fun." Its Open, its okay. And while you are at it, why not just admit actual piracy is too hard for you guys so you downgraded your ambitious to the easier murder option.
 
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Regarding "You guys", as well as the code, there are player bounty hunters and 'good guys' out there too who have never killed another player in anger, who are joining in with this out of disgust for the Sothis exploit. CMDR Morbad, for instance, has always been an avid and very effective pirate hunter, has become so angered as to join in the same pursuit as his natural enemies - you will see a new kind of bad guy griefer emerge from all this and it will be those who are remaining quiet now, as they hit the 4 billion + mark through the exploit.

Well whatever floats your boat.

If I give a virtual "pinky promise" that I won't use the logging in/out thing can I get safe passage later - or do I have to run the gauntlet anyway?

:D
 
Did anyone ever try this at all or is this mere hyperbole? For a start, you need a very high trade rank to even get some good missions. Then you can probably only take a single of those in a Sidewinder due to the small cargo space. The ramp up time alone, getting to a more effective ship (e.g. Cobra), higher trade rank etc. is probably way more than your 8 hour figure, and that is only when a player may begin saving up to an Anaconda, if they so desire to make a bee-line for that ship.



It's hyperbole, to an extent. I can make 100 million in a decent day, most of that time is spent waiting for missions to pop up because my RNG is bad. However that doesn't change the fact that you can get a million credits for carrying 2 tons of biowaste from Sothis to the bubble, as a regular trading mission, with no reputation or trade rank.

It's not just the smuggling missions that're broken.
 
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