It's ok. Elite: Dangerous isn't for everyone. Some people like Elite: Safe, and that's cool. Just don't expect everyone else to like it.
Combat Logging
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It's ok. Elite: Dangerous isn't for everyone. Some people like Elite: Safe, and that's cool. Just don't expect everyone else to like it.
That's the problem with menu logging it's the urgent option, yet it lacks any urgency you have sit there for 15 seconds to confirm. Take the timer away or let me confirm while the timers going. Sometimes real-life gets in the way and you have no choice but to stop playing the game immediately.
You could increase the timer however much you like, just let me walk away if I need to.
I was under the impression they had all their engineered modules removed if they used the exploit to roll one module. I'd say that is a sufficient punishment... having to grind engineers is a punishment at the best of times.
I agree with this actually. Until their system can handle it (and I don't think this will ever happen), nothing will be done, ever, about clogging. It's all just wishes and discussion.
I think the best way to deal with a Combat Logger is to move on ... Is it really anything more than a mild annoyance?
All that happens then is that players combat log, the game creates AI clones of their ships complete with bounties, and players log back on, blow their AI clones up and gather the bounties on themselves
That's so silly specially from someone who supposedly understands everything net-related.
If you log back within your 2-minute logoff timer, you'll be at the exact position you were, just in time to see your explosion. If you log back after the two minutes, you'll be at the rebuy screen, unless your culprit is a good Samaritan who've just let you go, out of pitty.
You're right until you're not.
C-Logging persistence in ED makes it a discredited game as far as Online Multi-player counts. That, plus block lists, plus bad p2p and instancing problems. Make PvP very unreliable. A joke actually.
I don't really buy that whole "emergency" thing TBH.
If the doorbell's ringing, your dog's throwing up on the carpet or your kid's got their head stuck in the toilet again you're not going to hang around for 15 seconds, waiting for the timer, so you can quit out of the game properly and go and deal with the emergency.
You're either going to just abandon the game immediately and allow your ship to be destroyed or, if you're a bit shady, you're going to switch off your PC to avoid that happening.
In either case, if something is urgent enough that you couldn't high-wake and then quit, it's probably also urgent enough that you're not going to wait for the timer.
To me, it's really only there as a deterrent against people using it specifically for escaping problems.
If those problems don't involve another human being I guess it's nobody else's business.
If the problem involves a hollow blob on the scanner, however, then you've really got an obligation to abide by the "agreement" you made with another person when you decided to get involved in combat.
It's kind of like showing up for a tennis match, going 2 sets down and then attempting to declare the match void because you think you left the bath running.
Block the cloggers, it's not like they'll hang around for the next fight anyway.
My phone rings for less time than the countdown lasts, no way to judge urgency before answering.
That's not what happened as I understand it.
I'm pretty sure I read FDev saying that they could positively identify modules that were obtained dishonestly and remove them.
That would rather suggest that only the dodgy modules were removed.
If you've got somebody telling you that they had a bunch of legit' modules removed as well... TBH, I'd be wary of believing what a cheat says.
How then, are you going to persist a ship in an instance when the player logs off, without an AI controlled "clone" to take it's place? The "clone" can't be dissolved when the player logs back in, as then the opposing players shooting at it will have spent time achieving nothing, when you reappear you'll be in the same state you logged off in. Otherwise you'll have players screaming "Ormagerd I got griefed offline!"
Discredited by whom, exactly? What are their credentials? Are they a respected review body?
I agree with ALL of those rules, my example is only if someone else breaks rule #1.
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Nope, ANY modified module on ANY ship that matched the type of module modified with a cheat roll was stripped of all engineering.
If they cheated for one DDT5 thrusters, and and all dirty drive thrusters were removed from their fleet.
Repeat for each module.
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I'd really only believe that if I read an official source saying that's what happened.
If it is what happened, though... good. [up]
The post was not moderated by me, I stand by my original example. I will not give a ganker the satisfaction of destroying my ship just for the joy of destroying my ship. If I'm carrying cargo, if I'm from a rival faction, if I'm wanted (and quite often I am) if I called his mother fat then fine.
It was exactly what happened and what FDev posted when they did it. You can find it if you feel the need I guess.
If I decide to fight though, I will happily lose my ship if outmatched.
Then to me it seems FDev should remove the timer entirely but have some cumulative consecuences if used too often.
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I’m actually of the opinion the timer should be increased (somewhere between 30 sec and minute) but that the player only has to press the button at the beginning and then can just walk off. Sometimes you just have to go that second. It’s not a matter of waiting 15 sec it’s a matter of gotta go. If at least it would shut down on its own after the timer goes, I’d be happy.
Yea I don't know why the timer is front loaded then you have to confirm. It's like they wanted to make you stay there for some reason. I don't recall any other game like it.
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