Our PMF is on war with another pmf. Our opposition said that they will not contest. So yesterday i started supporting our war effort.
I did 16 battles and experienced the following:
1) all CZ were stable, nothing running away from me. All 26 were high cz.
2) when you drop into a CZ you are 10km away, in order to get the war to start and ships to spawn you need to approach to within 7.5km (like docking at a station)
3) of the 16 battles, 2 did not spawn ships. Of these 2, 1 remained totally empty, the second spawned two side missions, spec ops and enemy correspondent. I killed the 3 correspondents but took too much damage and therefore died before killing all 4 spec ops. So i count these two battles as lost
4) of the 14 battles that did spawn ships, i lost one - all my allies ran away and i was forced to leave (outnumbered 20 : 1) so i count this as a loss
5) of the 13 where ships spawned and i stayed until all enemy ships ran away (high wake out), all spawned 2 side missions. these were a combination of 2 from: a) kill enemy war correspondents (3 of); b) kill enemy captain (1 of); c) protect ally war correspondent (3 of); d) protect ally captain (1 of); e) kill spec ops (4 of). Most of the time (approx 50%) i got a) and b)
6) of the enemy captains, i had 5, i killed 1, but the other 4 escaped (as soon as their shields are down they high wake so very hard to kill a vette that runs that early). so i count this as 1 side mission win and 4 losses
7) of the enemy war correspondents (i think i had around 7 times), i failed to kill all 3 only once. so i count this as 6 side mission wins and 1 loss.
8) I had 2 ally correspondent side missions (I protected both until the war won message). I had 1 ally captain who i protected too
9) finally, i believe on each of the 13 battles i got the bar to full and received a 'war won' message before the enemy high waked out. so that should be 13 battles won.
10) i never got a second wave, possibly because i won every war, even though i waited 15-20 mins on more than two occasions (to let my shields regen)
11) handed in 2 lots of combat bonds with a total value of around 8m cr.
So, i recon i should have received at least 13 win and 3 losses. Or if counting side missions (13 + 1 + 6 + 3 + 2) 25 wins and (3 + 4 + 1) 8 losses = +12 difference (if the mechanics count points instead of battles) - of if I factor in a total of 32 (2 per war) side missions points (as i may have missed/not seen some) and assume i lost those i didnt see (I saw 15 so guess i may have missed and therefore lost 17 others), this would be 25 wins and 25 losses.
Two of my squadron (in a wing) also did 4 battles. They believe that they only saw the war won message 1 time, but they completed 50% of the side missions, and they did one combat bond hand in each. So im guessing that their scores were something like 2 * (1 + 4 + 1) wins and 2 * (3 + 4) losses.
So total activity was 14 battles won and 6 lost. Or counting points (25 + 6 + 6) 37 win points and (25 + 7 + 7) 39 loss point.
Outcome after the tick - Close Loss.
So my guess is that the CZ mechanics count CZ points and not battles won.
However, due to the number of bugs in the CZ i would suggest that unless you are very lucky and are approaching Elite with a very robust ships, it is nearly impossible to win a war this way, the odds are just too stacked against you. So maybe better not to use CZ to win a faction war?
Also I checked the journals after all this activity. There is nothing in the journals relating to CZ, side missions or war wins - FDEV if you are listening , why not provide this info in the journal so at least we could do a post mortum on our performance and help you bug fix this!!!!! I suggest adding events for a) side selection; b) side missions spawn; c) side missions completion; d) war won; e) entered CZ; f) exit CZ
I did 16 battles and experienced the following:
1) all CZ were stable, nothing running away from me. All 26 were high cz.
2) when you drop into a CZ you are 10km away, in order to get the war to start and ships to spawn you need to approach to within 7.5km (like docking at a station)
3) of the 16 battles, 2 did not spawn ships. Of these 2, 1 remained totally empty, the second spawned two side missions, spec ops and enemy correspondent. I killed the 3 correspondents but took too much damage and therefore died before killing all 4 spec ops. So i count these two battles as lost
4) of the 14 battles that did spawn ships, i lost one - all my allies ran away and i was forced to leave (outnumbered 20 : 1) so i count this as a loss
5) of the 13 where ships spawned and i stayed until all enemy ships ran away (high wake out), all spawned 2 side missions. these were a combination of 2 from: a) kill enemy war correspondents (3 of); b) kill enemy captain (1 of); c) protect ally war correspondent (3 of); d) protect ally captain (1 of); e) kill spec ops (4 of). Most of the time (approx 50%) i got a) and b)
6) of the enemy captains, i had 5, i killed 1, but the other 4 escaped (as soon as their shields are down they high wake so very hard to kill a vette that runs that early). so i count this as 1 side mission win and 4 losses
7) of the enemy war correspondents (i think i had around 7 times), i failed to kill all 3 only once. so i count this as 6 side mission wins and 1 loss.
8) I had 2 ally correspondent side missions (I protected both until the war won message). I had 1 ally captain who i protected too
9) finally, i believe on each of the 13 battles i got the bar to full and received a 'war won' message before the enemy high waked out. so that should be 13 battles won.
10) i never got a second wave, possibly because i won every war, even though i waited 15-20 mins on more than two occasions (to let my shields regen)
11) handed in 2 lots of combat bonds with a total value of around 8m cr.
So, i recon i should have received at least 13 win and 3 losses. Or if counting side missions (13 + 1 + 6 + 3 + 2) 25 wins and (3 + 4 + 1) 8 losses = +12 difference (if the mechanics count points instead of battles) - of if I factor in a total of 32 (2 per war) side missions points (as i may have missed/not seen some) and assume i lost those i didnt see (I saw 15 so guess i may have missed and therefore lost 17 others), this would be 25 wins and 25 losses.
Two of my squadron (in a wing) also did 4 battles. They believe that they only saw the war won message 1 time, but they completed 50% of the side missions, and they did one combat bond hand in each. So im guessing that their scores were something like 2 * (1 + 4 + 1) wins and 2 * (3 + 4) losses.
So total activity was 14 battles won and 6 lost. Or counting points (25 + 6 + 6) 37 win points and (25 + 7 + 7) 39 loss point.
Outcome after the tick - Close Loss.
So my guess is that the CZ mechanics count CZ points and not battles won.
However, due to the number of bugs in the CZ i would suggest that unless you are very lucky and are approaching Elite with a very robust ships, it is nearly impossible to win a war this way, the odds are just too stacked against you. So maybe better not to use CZ to win a faction war?
Also I checked the journals after all this activity. There is nothing in the journals relating to CZ, side missions or war wins - FDEV if you are listening , why not provide this info in the journal so at least we could do a post mortum on our performance and help you bug fix this!!!!! I suggest adding events for a) side selection; b) side missions spawn; c) side missions completion; d) war won; e) entered CZ; f) exit CZ
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