Completing Zoo Tycoon 2: How far we've come?

Mjmannella · Mar 25, 2025

More or less yeah. A third otter isn't very appealing to me. If we had to get another Mustelid I'd rather get an American mink or a yellow-throated marten.

leehonglocal · Mar 25, 2025

SanRazo said:
I’m curious you are of course entitled to your opinion, but why aren’t you interested in the sea otter? Do you feel satisfied with the two otters currently in game?

So that latest zoo game had both freshwater and saltwater species like these?:

Bactrian and dromedary camel
Malayan tapir and one other tapir species
One seal and one sea lion
Two giant tortoises (Aldabra and Galapagos)

Mjmannella · Mar 25, 2025

That seems kind of arbitrary, and personally if we had to get a saltwater mustelid, I'd prefer ~~sea minks~~ marine otters over sea otters.

More South America representation while also showing off a really interesting species that highlights convergent evolution!

Topaz Star · Mar 25, 2025

S: Secretary Bird, Walrus ,Green Sea Turtle
A: Musk Ox, Sea Otter
B: Barbary Macaque, Japanese Serow, Gelada, Leatherback, Elephant Seal, Rockhopper, Blackbuck
C: Nile Crocodile, Gerenuk, Honey Badger
D: Ethiopian Wolf, American Black Bear
F: Crested Gibbon, Javan Rhino, Emperor Penguin, Masai Giraffe, Iberian Lynx, Olive Baboon, Bighorn Sheep

S = This animal alone would be enough to make the pack awesome
A = Really solid pick
B = Happy to see them
C = Indifferent
D = Can see some appeal, but not really interested
F = No interested at all

leehonglocal · Mar 25, 2025

I made another to show which were most hope for and which were less.
S = most wanted and hope for
F = less and not interested (especially and for example, not the ones that couldn't last, survive and/or breed in captivity).

S: American black bear, Masai giraffe, rockhopper penguin, green sea turtle
A: Bighorn sheep, blackbuck, sea otter and walrus
B: Japanese serow, olive baboon, gerenuk, honey badger
C: Gelada, musk ox, Nile crocodile, secretary bird, emperor penguin (although that species' chicks are cuter)
D: Barbary ape
F: Elephant seal (Northern one's in captivity), crested gibbon, Ethiopian wolf, Iberian lynx, leatherback sea turtle, Javan rhino

leehonglocal · Mar 25, 2025

yoav_r said:
So, I noticed we are very very close to completing the roster of Zoo Tycoon 2 (fully marine and extinct animals not included).

Here's the analysis:

Animal Zoo Tycoon Zoo Tycoon 2 Planet Zoo
Aardvark
V
V
Addax V V
Afican Lion
V
V
V
African Buffalo
V
V
V
African crested porcupine V
African Penguin
V
African Savannah Elephant
V
V
V
African Spurred Tortoise
V
V
African wild ass V
African Wild Dog
V
V
V
Aldabra Giant Tortoise
V
Alpine Ibex
V
V
V
American Alligator
V
American Bison
V
V
V
American black bear
V
Arctic Fox
V
Arctic Wolf
V
V
Asian Black Bear
V
V
Formosan
Asian Elephant
V
V
V
Asian Rhino
Javan
Javan
Indian
Asian Small-Clawed Otter
V
Asian water monitor V
Baboon Olive Hamadrayas
Bactrian Camel
V
Baird's Tapir
V
V
Barbary Ape
V
Bengal Tiger
V
V
V
Bighorn sheep V
Binturong
V
Black-and-white Ruffed Lemur
V
Blackbuck V
Black Rhino
V
V
V
Black-Tailed Prairie Dog
V
Black wildebeest V
Blue wildebeest V V V
Bongo
V
V
V
Bonobo
V
Bornean Orangutan
V
V
V
California Sea Lion
V
V
V
Capybara
V
Caracal
V
V
Cheetah
V
V
V
Chimpanzee
V
V
Western
Chinese Pangolin
V
Clouded Leopard
V
V
Collared Peccary V
Colombian white-faced Capuchin
V
Common Ostrich
V
V
V
Common Warthog
V
V
V
Common Wombat
V
Coqueral's sifaka V
Cougar
V
V
V
Cuvier's Dwarf Caiman
V
Dall sheep V
Dama gazelle V
Dhole
V
Dingo
V
Dromedary Camel
V
V
V
Emu
V
Elephant Seal
V
Emperor/King Penguin
Emperor Penguin
Emperor Penguin
King Penguin
Ethiopian Wolf
V
European Badger
V
European Fallow Deer
V
Fennec Fox
V
V
Fossa V
Galapagos Giant Tortoise
V
V
Gelada
V
Gemsbok
V
V
V
Gerenuk
V
Gharial
V
Giant Anteater
V
V
Giant Otter
V
Giant Panda
V
V
V
Gibbon Crested Lar
Giraffe
V
Reticulated + Masai
Reticulated
Gorilla
Western Lowland
Mountain
Western Lowland
Gray Wolf
V
V
V
Greater Flamingo
V
V
V
Green Sea Turtle
V
V
Grey Seal
V
Grizzly Bear
V
V
V
Himalayan Brown Bear
V
Hippopotamus
V
V
V
Honey Badger
V
Indian Peafowl
V
V
Japanese Serow
V
Jaguar
V
V
V
Japanese Macaque
V
Kirk's dikdik V
Koala
V
V
Komodo Dragon
V
V
V
Leatherback Sea Turtle
V
Leopard
V
V
Amur + African
Little blue penguin V
Llama
V
V
Lynx
Spanish Lynx
Eurasian Lynx
Malayan Tapir
V
V
Mandrill
V
V
V
Maned Wolf
V
Markhor
V
V
V
Meerkat
V
V
Moose
V
V
V
Musk Ox
V
Mute Swan V
Nile Crocodile
V
Nile Lechwe
V
Nile Monitor
V
V
Nine-banded Armadillo
V
North American Beaver
V
V
North island brown kiwi V
North Sulawesi Babirusa
V
Nyala
V
Okapi
V
V
V
Pallas's cat V
Plains Zebra
V
V
V
Platypus
V
Polar Bear
V
V
V
Proboscis Monkey
V
Pronghorn
V
Przewalski's Horse
V
V
V
Pygmy Hippo
V
V
Raccoon
V
Red deer
V
Red Fox
V
Red Kangaroo
V
V
V
Red-necked Wallaby
V
Red Panda
V
V
Red Ruffed Lemur
V
Red-crowned Crane
V
Red river hog V
Reindeer
V
V
V
Ring-tailed Lemur
V
V
Rockhopper Penguin
V
Quokka V
Sable Antelope
V
V
V
Saiga V
Sand cat V
Saltwater Crocodile
V
V
Scimitar-Horned Oryx
V
V
Sea Otter
V
V
Secretary Bird
V
Siamang V
Siberian Tiger
V
V
Snow Leopard
V
V
V
Southern Cassowary
V
Spectacled Bear
V
V
Spectacled Caiman
V
Sloth Bear V
Spotted Hyena
V
V
Springbok
V
Striped Hyena
V
V
Striped skunk
V
Sun Bear
V
Takin V
Tasmanian devil V
Thomson's Gazelle
V
V
V
Walrus
V
V
Wisent V
White Rhino
V
Southern
Wild Boar V
Wild Water Buffalo
V
Wolverine
V
V

So Overall, PZ completely surpassed both ZT Games:

Zoo Tycoon Zoo Tycoon 2 Planet Zoo
Number of Terrestrial animals 61 81 153

Now, here's a list of species found in Zoo Tycoon/Zoo Tycoon 2 That are not yet in Planet Zoo.

Species
American Black Bear
Bighorn Sheep
Blackbuck
Elephant Seal
Japanese Serow
Olive Baboon

Species
Barbary Ape
Crested Gibbon
Ethiopian Wolf
Gelada
Gerenuk
Giraffe (Masai)
Honey Badger
Iberian Lynx
Leatherback Sea Turtle
Musk Ox
Nile Crocodile
Rockhopper Penguin
Secretary Bird

Species
Emperor Penguin
Green Sea Turtle
Javan Rhino
Sea Otter
Walrus

Do you think they are necessary? We are extremely close to "completing the PZ roster"

Edit: Changed lists format

Possible to do this idea of thread and chart with any of these other zoo games?

Zoo Kingdom (cancelled so here's the list: https://zoo-kingdom.fandom.com/wiki/Animals, and I'm sure that's almost complete)
Zoo Empire
Zoo Resort 3d
Zoo Guardians

Mjmannella · Mar 25, 2025

Zoo Kingdom wasn't cancelled, support just shut down after a few years. It being a Facebook game means there isn’t a whole lot of documentation on it unfortunately

leehonglocal · Mar 25, 2025

Mjmannella said:
Zoo Kingdom wasn't cancelled, support just shut down after a few years. It being a Facebook game means there isn’t a whole lot of documentation on it unfortunately

That game was closed down.

SanRazo · Mar 28, 2025

Bighorn sheep most likely added. another Zt1 critter down!

Mjmannella · Mar 28, 2025

Also the minor flamingo debate getting resolved with both greater and American species in the game

NachoB · Apr 3, 2025

SanRazo said:
Bighorn sheep most likely added. another Zt1 critter down!

Other than that this pack won't do much for this thread i think. I'm happy about the Big horned sheep though! But an Américas pack had so much potential to cover some animals from the ZT games: Musk ox, sea otter, walrus, elephant seals american black bear, Rockhopper penguin were all candidatos for such a pack (not that i prefer them over what we are getting, well some yeah instead of the american flamingo i would take the Rockhopper penguin and instead of the coyote i would have prefered the ABB, Musk ox or sea otter.

leehonglocal · Apr 3, 2025

SanRazo said:
Bighorn sheep most likely added. another Zt1 critter down!

If or shall bighorn sheep be in that game, what left for ones in Zoo Tycoon DS (excluding unlockable ones) are these. I hardly included Zoo Tycoon 1 downloads and expansion packs due to many that couldn't last, survive and/or breed in captivity. Also extinct ones.

Olive baboon although one baboon species' already chosen.
American black bear
Black leopard Southeast Asian rainforest subspecies although African and one more leopard subspecies seems enough to me. Also I hardly know differences between subspecies maybe except Amur one having "fluffier" tail tip and orange-like color in that game?
Emperor penguin although these. Between king and emperor penguins, adults are almost less different while their chicks can easily identify. Also, how many zoos and/or aquarium housed emperor penguins?

DarthQuell · Apr 3, 2025

leehonglocal said:
Black leopard Southeast Asian rainforest subspecies although African and one more leopard subspecies seems enough to me. Also I hardly know differences between subspecies maybe except Amur one having "fluffier" tail tip and orange-like color in that game?

If we must get a 3rd leopard (hopefully not), then I want it to be the Indian leopard. Nothing else, just the Indian subspecies

NachoB · Apr 3, 2025

DarthQuell said:
If we must get a 3rd leopard (hopefully not), then I want it to be the Indian leopard. Nothing else, just the Indian subspecies

But DQ!... How daré you!? Insert the not common in captivity argument here

DarthQuell · Apr 3, 2025

NachoB said:
But DQ!... How daré you!? Insert the not common in captivity argument here

I mean, the Indian leopard is way more important than any SA animal. SA animals are overrated anyways, Nacho

Milurian · Apr 3, 2025

leehonglocal said:
If or shall bighorn sheep be in that game, what left for ones in Zoo Tycoon DS (excluding unlockable ones) are these. I hardly included Zoo Tycoon 1 downloads and expansion packs due to many that couldn't last, survive and/or breed in captivity. Also extinct ones.

Olive baboon although one baboon species' already chosen.

American black bear

Black leopard Southeast Asian rainforest subspecies although African and one more leopard subspecies seems enough to me. Also I hardly know differences between subspecies maybe except Amur one having "fluffier" tail tip and orange-like color in that game?

Emperor penguin although these. Between king and emperor penguins, adults are almost less different while their chicks can easily identify. Also, how many zoos and/or aquarium housed emperor penguins?

japanese serow

american black bear

blackbuck

olive baboon

javan rhinoceros

emperor penguin

walrus

northern elephant seal

sea otter

if we remove the bighorn sheep this is what left of viable species level habitat animals so no aquatics or extinct animals

more controversial choices

green sea turtle (in my opinion this a viable habitat animals and probably the only viable sea turtle)
mexican grey wolf (is a specific subspecies we dont have)

Milurian · Apr 3, 2025

thought I should share what 5 years of obsession looks like so here is a link to my spreadsheet looking at a complete and thorough comparison between the 3 zoo tycoon games and planet zoo

Zoo franchise comparison history

docs.google.com

SanRazo · Apr 3, 2025

Milurian said:
japanese serow
american black bear
blackbuck
olive baboon
javan rhinoceros
emperor penguin
walrus
northern elephant seal
sea otter

if we remove the bighorn sheep this is what left of viable species level habitat animals so no aquatics or extinct animals

more controversial choices

green sea turtle (in my opinion this a viable habitat animals and probably the only viable sea turtle)

mexican grey wolf (is a specific subspecies we dont have)

Green sea turtle would work. Don’t listen to the propaganda that it wouldnt

Markiz · Apr 3, 2025

SanRazo said:
Green sea turtle would work. Don’t listen to the propaganda that it wouldnt

It would work, but it wouldn't fit

NachoB · Apr 3, 2025

Now that we have brought this thread back to life, here is a question. Which are the top 5 animals from ZT1 and 2 that you guys really want to be added in PZ before support ends?

For me those would be

1. Musk ox
2. Blackbuck
3. Secretary bird
4. Rockhopper penguin
5. Sea otter

Gerenuk is another one i really want and that i miss from ZT. The rest can make it or not and i wouldn't miss them that much but those 6 are the ones i remember enjoying playing with and placing in my zoos a lot and i would want them back in PZ.

Animal	Zoo Tycoon	Zoo Tycoon 2	Planet Zoo
Aardvark	V	V
Addax	V	V
Afican Lion	V	V	V
African Buffalo	V	V	V
African crested porcupine	V
African Penguin	V
African Savannah Elephant	V	V	V
African Spurred Tortoise	V	V
African wild ass	V
African Wild Dog	V	V	V
Aldabra Giant Tortoise	V
Alpine Ibex	V	V	V
American Alligator	V
American Bison	V	V	V
American black bear	V
Arctic Fox	V
Arctic Wolf	V	V
Asian Black Bear	V	V	Formosan
Asian Elephant	V	V	V
Asian Rhino	Javan	Javan	Indian
Asian Small-Clawed Otter	V
Asian water monitor	V
Baboon	Olive	Hamadrayas
Bactrian Camel	V
Baird's Tapir	V	V
Barbary Ape	V
Bengal Tiger	V	V	V
Bighorn sheep	V
Binturong	V
Black-and-white Ruffed Lemur	V
Blackbuck	V
Black Rhino	V	V	V
Black-Tailed Prairie Dog	V
Black wildebeest	V
Blue wildebeest	V	V	V
Bongo	V	V	V
Bonobo	V
Bornean Orangutan	V	V	V
California Sea Lion	V	V	V
Capybara	V
Caracal	V	V
Cheetah	V	V	V
Chimpanzee	V	V	Western
Chinese Pangolin	V
Clouded Leopard	V	V
Collared Peccary	V
Colombian white-faced Capuchin	V
Common Ostrich	V	V	V
Common Warthog	V	V	V
Common Wombat	V
Coqueral's sifaka	V
Cougar	V	V	V
Cuvier's Dwarf Caiman	V
Dall sheep	V
Dama gazelle	V
Dhole	V
Dingo	V
Dromedary Camel	V	V	V
Emu	V
Elephant Seal	V
Emperor/King Penguin	Emperor Penguin	Emperor Penguin	King Penguin
Ethiopian Wolf	V
European Badger	V
European Fallow Deer	V
Fennec Fox	V	V
Fossa	V
Galapagos Giant Tortoise	V	V
Gelada	V
Gemsbok	V	V	V
Gerenuk	V
Gharial	V
Giant Anteater	V	V
Giant Otter	V
Giant Panda	V	V	V
Gibbon	Crested	Lar
Giraffe	V	Reticulated + Masai	Reticulated
Gorilla	Western Lowland	Mountain	Western Lowland
Gray Wolf	V	V	V
Greater Flamingo	V	V	V
Green Sea Turtle	V	V
Grey Seal	V
Grizzly Bear	V	V	V
Himalayan Brown Bear	V
Hippopotamus	V	V	V
Honey Badger	V
Indian Peafowl	V	V
Japanese Serow	V
Jaguar	V	V	V
Japanese Macaque	V
Kirk's dikdik	V
Koala	V	V
Komodo Dragon	V	V	V
Leatherback Sea Turtle	V
Leopard	V	V	Amur + African
Little blue penguin	V
Llama	V	V
Lynx	Spanish Lynx	Eurasian Lynx
Malayan Tapir	V	V
Mandrill	V	V	V
Maned Wolf	V
Markhor	V	V	V
Meerkat	V	V
Moose	V	V	V
Musk Ox	V
Mute Swan	V
Nile Crocodile	V
Nile Lechwe	V
Nile Monitor	V	V
Nine-banded Armadillo	V
North American Beaver	V	V
North island brown kiwi	V
North Sulawesi Babirusa	V
Nyala	V
Okapi	V	V	V
Pallas's cat	V
Plains Zebra	V	V	V
Platypus	V
Polar Bear	V	V	V
Proboscis Monkey	V
Pronghorn	V
Przewalski's Horse	V	V	V
Pygmy Hippo	V	V
Raccoon	V
Red deer	V
Red Fox	V
Red Kangaroo	V	V	V
Red-necked Wallaby	V
Red Panda	V	V
Red Ruffed Lemur	V
Red-crowned Crane	V
Red river hog	V
Reindeer	V	V	V
Ring-tailed Lemur	V	V
Rockhopper Penguin	V
Quokka	V
Sable Antelope	V	V	V
Saiga	V
Sand cat	V
Saltwater Crocodile	V	V
Scimitar-Horned Oryx	V	V
Sea Otter	V	V
Secretary Bird	V
Siamang	V
Siberian Tiger	V	V
Snow Leopard	V	V	V
Southern Cassowary	V
Spectacled Bear	V	V
Spectacled Caiman	V
Sloth Bear	V
Spotted Hyena	V	V
Springbok	V
Striped Hyena	V	V
Striped skunk	V
Sun Bear	V
Takin	V
Tasmanian devil	V
Thomson's Gazelle	V	V	V
Walrus	V	V
Wisent	V
White Rhino	V	Southern
Wild Boar	V
Wild Water Buffalo	V
Wolverine	V	V

Zoo Tycoon	Zoo Tycoon 2	Planet Zoo
Number of Terrestrial animals	61	81	153