Compromised Navigation Beacons vs Controlling Factions
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My faction's home system has a CNB.
A long, long time ago we took the system from a Corporation and the CNB remained (We are also Corp). We have been in and out of two lockdowns, but that hasn't changed anything either. The CNB has been here for at least three years or som with no change at all. For that, we are actually grateful. The bounty hunting there is tasty!
A long, long time ago we took the system from a Corporation and the CNB remained (We are also Corp). We have been in and out of two lockdowns, but that hasn't changed anything either. The CNB has been here for at least three years or som with no change at all. For that, we are actually grateful. The bounty hunting there is tasty!
Do you mind telling me the system? I'd like to add it to my list if I don't have it already.
I've embarked on a census of all the CNBs from mr.Gr3y's list along with some other ones I found and combined in my list. I'm updating my spreadsheet as I go with the current status of the CNBs. Furthermore, I've added a stats sheet, which will update automatically as I update the main one.
On the face of it, low and medium security systems appear to host the most CNBs, but I'll need to check whether that's just simply because those are the most common security types in the bubble. Corporate governments are also over-represented; again this might just be how the bubble is weighted and nothing to do with CNBs themselves.
Jane Turner
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I'll PM you a list of the systems in our area that have or used to have CNB's
Our system is Taoshamorio.
We had the same experience. During Lockdown the (previously) CNB was 'normal.' Immediately after the Lockdown ended it was still just a Nav Beacon. Interestingly, although the System State was 'None, Recovering Lockdown', the GalMap still showed the System State as 'Lockdown'.
Now, nearly 18 hours later, the Nav Beacon is again Compromised. Some things just seem to take a while to work through.
Jane Turner
Volunteer Moderator
Lockdown does temporarily change security state (raised) to assuming there is some hidden security rating figure that spawns CNB's you can imagine circumstances where lockdowns flip the status of the beacon
Now I have to ask again - the Lockdown only increases the Security as in that there are more ships flying in SC, yet not showing a change in the System info itself (Low raised to Medium etc.) correct?
Jane Turner
Volunteer Moderator
I am pretty sure we see a temp change in the declared security state - but I'm not 100% sure
Will keep an eye on that.
Effects of Lockdown:
- Sec level increased
- More authorities ships
- Checkpoints spawn
- Some station sercives locked (Comodities, Crew, Outfitting, ZERO missions)
I'm reasonably sure that Low, Medium and High are all fairly broad bands, so a "raise security" effect might push a Medium to a High, or it might just invisibly [1] push a Medium to a slightly more secure Medium.
[1] You might be able to pick something up statistically by looking at combat ranks, ship compositions, and response times of system authority. I've never tried...
And let's not forget that it should disable Black Markets for the duration as well. But that doesn't always work as intended...
Ok, I have finished a complete survey of over 300 known locations for CNBs and collated some statistics.
Security Levels:
It is absolutely not true that an system with a security level of Anarchy cannot have a CNB. Of the 10 that were either previously known or that I discovered, 4 of them were active CNBs. Only one of these systems was "special" (Nastrond), the other 3 looked like ordinary systems. That said, they are the least common type to have CNBs after High Security.
I only had 3 in my survey list that were High Security: none of these had active CNBs when I visited them. Given the fact that there were very few High Security CNBs even reported makes me think that a High Security system simply won't have a CNB, or will quickly lose it. I'm guessing that the ones I have likely changed to High Security since they were first reported.
Low security systems are the most likely to have CNBs: compared to the total number of low security systems in the entire galaxy, they are over-represented in the list of active CNBs (by about 1.6:1). This would make sense thematically.
Governments:
Corporate systems have the most CNBs by total figures, but compared to the number of total corporate governments in the galaxy, in terms of percentages they are not more likely than any other type to have a CNB. Corporate governments are the most populous in the galaxy, making up over a third of the total.
While it is hard to be confident of some of the statistics due to the low numbers involved for some government types (Galaxy-wide as well as in the CNBs list), it does seem that Confederacy type governments are over-represented for active CNBs. Communism and Feudal types also seem over-represented, but the low numbers available decrease the confidence in that assessment.
Allegiance:
Federation systems seem to have the highest chance of having a CNB, followed by Alliance systems, then Independents, with the Empire being the least likely. Given how close the figures are though I personally wouldn't weight allegiance in any predictions of where a CNB will spawn just yet.
If there are other questions you'd like to ask of the statistics, let me know.
Security Levels:
It is absolutely not true that an system with a security level of Anarchy cannot have a CNB. Of the 10 that were either previously known or that I discovered, 4 of them were active CNBs. Only one of these systems was "special" (Nastrond), the other 3 looked like ordinary systems. That said, they are the least common type to have CNBs after High Security.
I only had 3 in my survey list that were High Security: none of these had active CNBs when I visited them. Given the fact that there were very few High Security CNBs even reported makes me think that a High Security system simply won't have a CNB, or will quickly lose it. I'm guessing that the ones I have likely changed to High Security since they were first reported.
Low security systems are the most likely to have CNBs: compared to the total number of low security systems in the entire galaxy, they are over-represented in the list of active CNBs (by about 1.6:1). This would make sense thematically.
Governments:
Corporate systems have the most CNBs by total figures, but compared to the number of total corporate governments in the galaxy, in terms of percentages they are not more likely than any other type to have a CNB. Corporate governments are the most populous in the galaxy, making up over a third of the total.
While it is hard to be confident of some of the statistics due to the low numbers involved for some government types (Galaxy-wide as well as in the CNBs list), it does seem that Confederacy type governments are over-represented for active CNBs. Communism and Feudal types also seem over-represented, but the low numbers available decrease the confidence in that assessment.
Allegiance:
Federation systems seem to have the highest chance of having a CNB, followed by Alliance systems, then Independents, with the Empire being the least likely. Given how close the figures are though I personally wouldn't weight allegiance in any predictions of where a CNB will spawn just yet.
If there are other questions you'd like to ask of the statistics, let me know.
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Nice work. I have not iced that CNBs can flip a lot. They become uncompromised, so I take them off the list only for them to flip back a little while later. Great idea to look for what causes them. I always found though that they do mostly occur under anarchy governments but I never actually tested empirically
If anyone ever needs any help processing the large data files in ED, I would gladly help. I am always practising with them, finding the smallest planet s, the biggest pristine metallic rings, the most valuable systems to scan... and so forth.
If anyone ever needs any help processing the large data files in ED, I would gladly help. I am always practising with them, finding the smallest planet s, the biggest pristine metallic rings, the most valuable systems to scan... and so forth.
My next target of analysis is whether system populations have any correlations to CNBs.
In the meantime, if anyone is interested in playing with the BGS to see if they can create a CNB, here are the systems that were known to have a CNB but don't have one any longer:
In the meantime, if anyone is interested in playing with the BGS to see if they can create a CNB, here are the systems that were known to have a CNB but don't have one any longer:
| 26 Draconis |
| Amahutii |
| Anagori |
| Avanty |
| Balante |
| Cauac |
| Choth |
| Ekono |
| Glutia |
| Gullapites |
| Herz 10688 |
| Hez Pei |
| HIP 14001 |
| HIP 17675 |
| HIP 6551 |
| HIP 6772 |
| HIP 8807 |
| Hiralangi |
| Hyades Sector JO-P b6-3 |
| Jadimo |
| Julung |
| Kartam |
| Kini |
| Kongkomisso |
| Kunbuluan |
| Lacaille 9352 |
| LFT 1748 |
| LHS 3713 |
| LP 98-132 |
| LTT 14094 |
| LTT 464 |
| Mahlina |
| Manarato |
| Mong Kung |
| Morta |
| Murungh |
| Ngoma |
| Nogatas |
| Olelbis |
| Onya |
| Pyemmairre |
| Seshenghus |
| Setet |
| Supen |
| Theotokos |
| Thetis |
| Uru |
| V780 Tauri |
| Venet |
| Vesuvit |
Pyemmairre and Julung have both been taken over by a player supported Anarchy faction, within the last month or so. If that's of any relevance.
Any idea what factions were in control before?
Edit: It's of note because the list I took them from mentioned them as having an active CNB while being an anarchy government. Nastrond is in a similar position though, the anarchy faction there is backed by a player group too as far as I know.
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