Hardware & Technical Computer Build to run Elite Dangerous

one of the best ways to build a quiet machine is to ad a overpowered PSU in your Computer.
the kind of psu that only starts cooling at 45% or higher load.
for example the fractal design newton r3 1000 watts
Another advantage of this is far less dust collection in your build.
it more expensive but it will highly likely outlast your system.
so after that can be reused for the next.
 
I'm not sure I'd need doors on a case like that.

Just old school sheet panels do me just fine. I do however, have an absolute requirement for hotswap bays. The only cases with genuine tool-less hotswap I have found are all servers.

My Thermaltake GTS needs screws to mount drives into caddys. It's workable, but I would much prefer tool-less to hotswap both 3.5 and 2.5 drives. Any suggestions?
 
My Thermaltake GTS needs screws to mount drives into caddys. It's workable, but I would much prefer tool-less to hotswap both 3.5 and 2.5 drives. Any suggestions?

I think the Corsair Carbide cases have tool-less drive bays. Certainly the 300R does according to the Corsair website. They seem to get good reviews and was considering getting one before I got the Fractal Design R4.
 
That Antec P series case has a tray that can be pulled out. But the problem is the data cables, causing you to disconnect them to remove it completely. The drives can slide in easily but indeed have these metal pieces that you screw onto them. Once attached, they need not go off.

So not sure if this is the best option. I noticed newer cases also have slots for SSD's, which is getting increasingly more handy. Mine is sort of dangling on its side somewhere in there.
 
To me, the whole area of graphics cards seems to be some kind of black art where no-one really knows what is better. I suppose, like some were saying in the beginning of the thread, it might be better to see how it runs on people's systems and go from there.

It would be good if Frontier gave us an indication of what is best?
 
To me, the whole area of graphics cards seems to be some kind of black art where no-one really knows what is better. I suppose, like some were saying in the beginning of the thread, it might be better to see how it runs on people's systems and go from there.

It would be good if Frontier gave us an indication of what is best?


I would love some hints - as I am holding back - waiting to replace my PC.
 
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AMD 8350 @ 4.7ghz
Corsair H55 cooler (probably not the best for this CPU)
16GB 1600mhz RAM Corsair Vengeance
EVGA 670 3gb FTW+ SLi
Sabertooth 990FX
Win7 64bit
OCZ Agility 3 120GB SSD + 1TB HDD
All in a CM Storm Scout case.

I hope I won't need to upgrade for a good few years but technology is cruising along at such a rate where I can't keep up!
 
To me, the whole area of graphics cards seems to be some kind of black art where no-one really knows what is better. I suppose, like some were saying in the beginning of the thread, it might be better to see how it runs on people's systems and go from there.

It would be good if Frontier gave us an indication of what is best?

That's the thing, though. What's best is the best card you can afford / want to buy. If money was no object, go for a Titan. If you want close to Titan but not the price tag, go for a R9 290X, or the R9 290 for 100 less(ish). At £320 it's an amazing card for the price, but still very expensive for many many people.

It also depends on what resolution you'll be playing at. If you're like me and play on a big TV with 1080p- then these cards are overkill. Something in the £150 range will give you amazing performance. But it still boils down to what you want and can afford.
 
That's the thing, though. What's best is the best card you can afford / want to buy. If money was no object, go for a Titan. If you want close to Titan but not the price tag, go for a R9 290X, or the R9 290 for 100 less(ish). At £320 it's an amazing card for the price, but still very expensive for many many people.

It also depends on what resolution you'll be playing at. If you're like me and play on a big TV with 1080p- then these cards are overkill. Something in the £150 range will give you amazing performance. But it still boils down to what you want and can afford.

What if Elite has some dumb problem and it gets half the performance with AMD cards over Nvidia?

This is my problem. I'm about to buy new main components (motherboard and RAM/CPU & Video card). But I want some guidance from Frontier as to what to get for the video card.
 
That's the thing, though. What's best is the best card you can afford / want to buy. If money was no object, go for a Titan. If you want close to Titan but not the price tag, go for a R9 290X, or the R9 290 for 100 less(ish). At £320 it's an amazing card for the price, but still very expensive for many many people.
Now that GTX 780 Ti has been released, I'd take that over Titan.
If I could afford it, that is :)
 
Now that GTX 780 Ti has been released, I'd take that over Titan.
If I could afford it, that is :)

I bought an EVGA GTX 780 last month. Wondered if I'd done the right thing when the AMD R290X was released followed by the massive price drop from Nvidia :(

Thankfully EVGA have a Step Up program. Just submitted my application for the 780Ti for €44. Hope it goes through OK.
 
I'd like to ask what PhysX will do for ED?

I have an AMD card, and as far as I know it doesn't implement PhysX.

So why do I have Nvidia PhysX installed and taking up 80Mb of my SSD? I certainly didn't put it there, should I get rid of it?
 
If you wanted any kind of physics simulation, like pieces breaking off from asteroids or similar debris generated from a ship being hit and chunks of it flying off realistically it could be used to accelerate that.

For those who have never owned an Nvidia or PhysX card before they were acquired by Nvidia it would be difficult to explain without video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFkDrKvBRU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVvaMBhfHlE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VafzR7JqO2I

From simple particle effects to simulations of things like cloth, it makes a huge graphical difference to games as I'm sure these videos demonstrate. I don't care how fast the latest ATI/AMD card is, I wouldn't want to be without these bells and whistles.

I had heard that some people had some luck with combining two cards together in the same system to get the best of both worlds but I think Nvidia may have gone out of their way to stop that happening. Perhaps it can still be hacked in though.

One of the best solutions is to get a nice fast main Nvidia GPU then buy one of their cheaper offerings and commit that to solely PhysX, giving a nice little speed boost.
 
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What if Elite has some dumb problem and it gets half the performance with AMD cards over Nvidia?

This is my problem. I'm about to buy new main components (motherboard and RAM/CPU & Video card). But I want some guidance from Frontier as to what to get for the video card.

It wont. And the other way around is also true. Most games use standard dx code, so performance aligns with card "level" of either manufacturer, unless there is some soon to be fixed bug (usually driver issue or game bug). Even games that are optimized for a particular sponsor... Ah I mean manufacturer... won't be displaying such performance difference in general.

But while there is no harm in waiting for FD guidance, I don't recall ever seeing a game publisher specifying a video card brand: usually say Dx something compatible card with X amount of RAM, and sometimes describe card families of both manufacturers. What you may wait for is benchmarks and other players input.
 
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If you wanted any kind of physics simulation, like pieces breaking off from asteroids or similar debris generated from a ship being hit and chunks of it flying off realistically it could be used to accelerate that.

For those who have never owned an Nvidia or PhysX card before they were acquired by Nvidia it would be difficult to explain without video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWFkDrKvBRU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVvaMBhfHlE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VafzR7JqO2I

From simple particle effects to simulations of things like cloth, it makes a huge graphical difference to games as I'm sure these videos demonstrate. I don't care how fast the latest ATI/AMD card is, I wouldn't want to be without these bells and whistles.

I had heard that some people had some luck with combining two cards together in the same system to get the best of both worlds but I think Nvidia may have gone out of their way to stop that happening. Perhaps it can still be hacked in though.

One of the best solutions is to get a nice fast main Nvidia GPU then buy one of their cheaper offerings and commit that to solely PhysX, giving a nice little speed boost.

PhysX is just one of the different physics engines available (e.g. Havoc) - and it doesn't even require a nVidia card to run (it has a CPU version), only to be accelerated. Real game changing GPU based physics acceleration, while interesting in concept, has been seriously hindered by lack of support and standardization, and I guess will remain so until a Open CL (or similar) based universal standard arises.

The main issue is while you can cater for special physics in single player experiences, on multiplayer everyone has to be on the "same page". So, has everyone playing he game has a x86 based CPU...

P.S. not quite sure, but a while back I remember reading something about CPU based Phys X being quite competitive performance wise with the GPU version if nVidia hadn't artificially capped it b using old x87 based code instead of SIMD math. Or something ;)

Edit: Afaik Cobra engine does not use PhysX in any way, but its own physics engine. If so PhysX GPU support is irrelevant for ED.
 
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