What are you guys on about? I've read back a couple pages and still can't figure it out. Something about the exploits I use are bueno, but the ones I don't use and YOU do are very not bueno? Am I hot or cold?
Confession of a shameless Mode Switcher...
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Warming up nicely. I would say.
Nah. Bickering over the terms advantage and exploit.
But the ones you use are bueno by the way
It's an MMO where the vast majority of players never interact with other players, which is a bit odd and kind of makes it a failed MMO. This is why I wish they would make PvP optional. A lot of people would play in open if they could do it as co-op PvE, which is how most people play MMOs. But that's a whole other discussion.
Nope, but that's not what you are arguing.
Just because you've saved time for yourself, doesn't mean you're in a superior position to anyone else.
If others choose not to follow your example doesn't put them at a disadvantage, it just means they are spending their time another way.
That is what I'm arguing, of course creating advantageous positions or advantages for yourself benefit, in certain circumstances, only you.
Some folks are ignoring that the definition of "exploit" (in relation to gaming/software) requires someone to gain an advantage over others for it to be an "exploit"
(please google the term yourself) and that as we can all use mode switching there is no advantage.
The hypocrisy, however, is hilarious. As some of the names I've seen defending mode switching elsewhere, are here slagging it off.
Amazing.
Which is why there are no exploits in single player games.
Let's try an example using the definitions;
In combat, I can increase my chance of success (advantageous) if I use my Anaconda Versus a Vulture.
However, it does not put me in a superior position (advantage) over the Vulture as I do not know how good the pilot is and I know I suck at combat.
So I try to be advantageous, but it doesn't give me the advantage.
Just like logging in and out can be advantageous, but it doesn't give me the advantage as everyone can do it.
There is if the game Devs say you have an unfair advantage over the game mechanics. Hence why I said before, the Devs get the final say.
I contend that there are big exploits and little exploits, with the size and degree of their effect on the community running the gamut. I mode switch like a madman to refresh mission boards and I think it is obviously an exploit, but I'd be oh so happy if that were not possible...perhaps this should be a rallying cry for an Open mode only conversation?
Who's with me?!?
*jasonbarron kicks over the uncorked can of petrol, begins rummaging for lighter*
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This whole "mode-switching" problem should be easy for Frontier to fix. They just have to decouple the parts of the server that gives missions and offers the same mission no matter which mode you are. Probably some bad design decisions somewhere and now, they're stuck with it. There are virtually no reason why Frontier would not be able to make missions the same no matter which mode you are.
Simply being me is the biggest advantage I have over them.
Being the one imagining all these figments is the biggest exploit of all!
And it looked like we would be getting along.....
Yeh, I'm one of em, I prefer mmo pve working on a team with other equally skilled players who need to coordinate like ballet dancers, I'm not into facing other players who exploited the credits and rep for the corvette they used to gank me in my dbx when I least expected it, despite having half the skill and half the hours I have in the game. How I wish Ed had more of the former and less of the latter.
Over game mechanics?
Surely you mean over others as you did in the post I quoted?
Because we agree if it's over game mechanics. That's what I was arguing about just before you explained the word advantage to me
Well said, and it's indeed quite entertaining.
Common ground again [up]
"it would bother people a little bit under certain circumstances, especially if you pvp, when you kill someone in your corvette because you exploited the rep and credits, despite having no more hours in the game than your victim because he chose not to cheat and is flying a DBX. It's not a big thing, but it's something, like a little fart. And both crimes are anonymous too!
People choose to kick butt in life or kick back in life. And many shades in between. Do you spend time considering all the people you've ever dealt with in life not playing by your rules of success? That guy driving the expensive sports car, he's a doctor but he cheated on a chemistry exam in college. The cop that pulls you over, he pulled some strings to get a felony count of spousal battery reduced to harassment... so he could get hired as a cop. The guy that delivers your milk. His business license expired five years ago. Did that stop him? LoL.
While you may not fart in a crowd (yes, that made me laugh), I imagine you (and me and everyone else on earth) has done in the past or does on a regular basis , something not so polite in order to succeed.
And like in real life where I don't waste my time researching people's backgrounds to see if they lied on a resume 20 years ago, I am not going to waste my time analyzing, comparing and condemning someone because he's a harmless pilot flying a Cutter.
I AM going to waste my time posting messages on web forums, however.
We told them this over 2 years ago......
It's been this way so long, it's now an unintended feature I think.