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indeed .. whilst I think it's great players can make their own stories up in the game ultimately I want FD to have some responsibility regarding the direction of the game. there are inherent canon facts in elite I think should be stuck to. that said..... FD themselves don't generally seem to have much understanding of the elite backstory and those who did have either left or been pushed away .... which is a shame. but ultimately I still want FD to tell the story and not players and their "emergent content".
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I can't and won't argue against your feelings, but I understand. It's one of the reasons why I have encouraged my son to get the continuously developed games on PC rather than console, he loves the Monster Hunter series and has a lot of hours in Monster Hunter World on his Xbox One, Capcom won't allow account migration to PC (maybe same issue as FDev face?) so at some point that's going to the way of our Minecraft worlds on Xbox 360, although now we have OG Minecraft on PC for when he wants to play that. There's an upside to console in that the initial investment is cheaper but there is a downside to being locked to a closed platform they operate, but then there are lots of other cool console games that aren't out for PC, along with exclusives, so again it's all relative, but it's not all upsides.
I don't know if my son will get a Series X, he doesn't seem that interested but maybe he will if it means he can continue with Monster Hunter World, but that wouldn't have been an issue if he had got it on PC, it's something we talked about leading up to Christmas, and he isn't interested in getting it on PC as he doesn't want to start over again, which a lot of folks statements on here echo, and is totally understandable. Honestly, I think Sony & MS have a lot to do with it, they've made exceptions with crossplay but one wonders at what cost to the developer, but really, should it in the first place? Especially in the area of account migration, MS & Sony know that any console has a limited life-time.
There are a number of players who don't bother with the story for various reasons, an over emphasis on the story by FDev raises the spectre of the game becoming just another scripted thing with a defined end or goal which isn't what Elite was about.
yes and no..... (not on all platforms perhaps) but even elite 1 had so e scripted story missions a d there was a definite narrative running through FFE. you didn't have to follow it but it was there. (and for me it was really enjoyable). the ending for me was not canon to ED. ...... BUT it would have been had I made different choices in FFE.
ED will never become a fully scripted game... but that does not mean there cannot be optional strong scripted elements running through it...... for me lots of pieces of the jigsaw.are.there but there is no real imperative to do it and that is where I think ED needs to improve. I want to have to go and raid a settlement and there be an actual consequence if I dont do it or if I fail. but what this needs is a whole tier of NPC's which were outlined in the design plan but are not in the game (yet). NPC's which we can build relations with that can work for us, with us or against us, that have their own side stories and can live or die.
not expecting full on mass effect here but something less abstract than what we have now. that mission video that was left in the code 12 months or so ago looked promising.
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Still lurking around just to annoying people who are not blind sided fanboys ?Console Update
I'm genuinely concerned about elite's future Nothing to be concerned about, it will be shelved sooner or later - probably at the end of next year, all games die, this one is no different. My response, that you picked up on, was to a post that was misleading... Deliberately so, for dramatic...forums.frontier.co.uk
Still lurking around like an ex that just doesn't get the message?
Request thread closure. Little progress is being made.
I was reading this and a thought popped into my head. Could save data be construed as personal data under GDPR? MS and Sony would say no regardless until someone litigated it so this is just idle musings, but imagine if you could request YOUR data (wild I know), and then submit it back to whatever platform you chose to play on.
Probably have to include some sort of checksum to make sure the file wasn't tampered with before it got accepted back, but I'm sure they worked all that out over in the good timeline.
I am sorry but I think w have officially found the dumbest take on the internet. Yes, surely you can be identified by the number of credits and the combat rank of your in-game character...
It should IMO, but whether the legalities are locked tight is another matter. I would assume that there's either a EULA that brings it under MS or Sony, and if the EULA is the developer's responsibility, there is likely a portion of their agreement with MS & Sony that acts as a clause, effectively acting as the same thing.
I'm for that. The console news is bad news .. and I feel bad for console players but I think everyone knows about it now and feels bad for console players. That's not going to change anything though.
It might be time to look forward again instead. News about update 11, livestreams returning, anything would be nice.
Oh wow, well if someone with a furry avatar says so it must be true. What do I win? Do I have to give it back when you retake the title?
I see someone doesn't know their memes. It is irl picture of a hamster photoshopped on a Rainbow 6 Siege character.
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Just being realistic.
On the topic at hand though I feel sorry for the console players. I saw some people defending the decision using the argument that you can still play Horizons. The point is Elite is a live service game that after 10 years is still missing at least half of the originally promised content. The game on consoles i effectively dead as who will want to play vastly inferior version of a game that is sliding by on potential (remember the promise of multiple new SRV variants coming soon after Horizons launch? xD) instead of its current state knowing it will never get better? Knowing that the "mile wide and ich deep" state will be a status quo forever?
If you think that ditching the console versions will improve the quality and content of the updates you are sorely mistaken. The most likely scenario is that the devs who were going to take care of that just got delegated to the F1 Manager 2022 from Frontier and it definitely will result in the decrease of resources put into Elite as according to polls and the discord servers I am in the console pop is around 30% of the playerbase. Now detract the $ that will not come anymore from the sale of cosmetics on the consoles and look at Elite Steam charts which are struggling hard and there is no financial reason for Fdev to put much effort into Elite. Does that mean the servers will soon close? No. What that means that we might get 6-12 months (an example not a thought out prediction) of some small updates and then the game will move into maintenance mode.
To people who think it will not happen because it is Braben's pet project. David Braben is a CEO of a huge company with shareholders he is accountable to. First off, it might have been his pet project 40 years ago but nowadays I seriously doubt he spares much thought to it apart from when something is seriously wrong and he has to do damage control personally. He is not involved with Elite at all for years now (apart from making apologies for the Odyssey fail) and in business there is no place for wasting money, time or manpower for something that is unrecoverable at this point and is part of the reason the stock of your company is losing value rapidly (just check the graph on google). If nixing Elite completely meant 1% increase in revenue for the next financial years he would surely do it in a heartbeat.
In the end I will say I am a PC player who hasn't touched Elite since May 2021 with 1.6k hours in the game. I will prob get the standard "why visit here if you dont play anymore" and "Odyssey is beter now" type of responses from people that are still deluded due to sunk cost fallacy but I can deal with it. Odyssey is still performing worse than Cyberpunk and I dont see any actual content added there to those bare bones, buggy foundaments. Each update still completely borks the game. As to why I visit? There is something to be said about watching a horrific trainwreck in morbid fascination and not being able to look away. In fact it is quite funny watching all that incompetence and mind boggling mess once you are not longer affected by the mess and able to distance yourself
I have to thank Fdev for making me appreciate how epic other devs are communicating with the playerbase ans I haven't encountered any as bad as them yet and I have infinitely more patience for other devs now!
For the players who still enjoy the game I want to say that I hope it turns out I am wrong and that it will become fantastic. I Don't think I am though. For the console players I just want to say to not dwell on it too much, find another fun game and just enjoy watching the disasters coming soon to the game
If you think that ditching the console versions will improve the quality and content of the updates you are sorely mistaken. The most likely scenario is that the devs who were going to take care of that just got delegated to the F1 Manager 2022 from Frontier and it definitely will result in the decrease of resources put into Elite as according to polls and the discord servers I am in the console pop is around 30% of the playerbase. Now detract the $ that will not come anymore from the sale of cosmetics on the consoles and look at Elite Steam charts which are struggling hard and there is no financial reason for Fdev to put much effort into Elite. Does that mean the servers will soon close? No. What that means that we might get 6-12 months (an example not a thought out prediction) of some small updates and then the game will move into maintenance mode.
To people who think it will not happen because it is Braben's pet project. David Braben is a CEO of a huge company with shareholders he is accountable to. First off, it might have been his pet project 40 years ago but nowadays I seriously doubt he spares much thought to it apart from when something is seriously wrong and he has to do damage control personally. He is not involved with Elite at all for years now (apart from making apologies for the Odyssey fail) and in business there is no place for wasting money, time or manpower for something that is unrecoverable at this point and is part of the reason the stock of your company is losing value rapidly (just check the graph on google). If nixing Elite completely meant 1% increase in revenue for the next financial years he would surely do it in a heartbeat.
In the end I will say I am a PC player who hasn't touched Elite since May 2021 with 1.6k hours in the game. I will prob get the standard "why visit here if you dont play anymore" and "Odyssey is beter now" type of responses from people that are still deluded due to sunk cost fallacy but I can deal with it. Odyssey is still performing worse than Cyberpunk and I dont see any actual content added there to those bare bones, buggy foundaments. Each update still completely borks the game. As to why I visit? There is something to be said about watching a horrific trainwreck in morbid fascination and not being able to look away. In fact it is quite funny watching all that incompetence and mind boggling mess once you are not longer affected by the mess and able to distance yourself
I have to thank Fdev for making me appreciate how epic other devs are communicating with the playerbase ans I haven't encountered any as bad as them yet and I have infinitely more patience for other devs now!For the players who still enjoy the game I want to say that I hope it turns out I am wrong and that it will become fantastic. I Don't think I am though. For the console players I just want to say to not dwell on it too much, find another fun game and just enjoy watching the disasters coming soon to the game
If your IP address is considered Personally Identifiable Information, I see no reason why an account associated with a game wouldn't. GDPR even applies to these forums, you can request all the data of your account (and actually I think that might include the data of your saves / commanders).
It wouldn't really help with transferring accounts to another platform though, GDPR doesn't need to be invoked for that.
It wouldn't really help with transferring accounts to another platform though, GDPR doesn't need to be invoked for that.
GDPR no longer counts in the UK
As i understand it now comes under the Data Protection Act 2018
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It does for EU customers, but fair point.
Could there be a possibility that a user could request their data from MS or Sony and present it to Frontier as part of a separate transaction? Kinda like how you can take a broken item just bought back, get a full refund and then purchase it again if one wanted rather than having to take an exchange. I feel lawyers would have been paid enough to ensure that's not an issue but maybe this was prior to this law?
Save file contains strings with numbers representing the values connected with your character. They do not contain any information that can link to your real identity. Basically they are just a bunch of flags representing particular values and from the way you can clear your save in ED it is clear the game uses this kind of traditional saves.