CPU under-utilization may be the problem
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There is a possibilty the devs do know what's wrong, but it won't get properly fixed because they'll just wait for the hardware to be good enough to hide the bad coding and lack of optimisation.
Stealth SC promotion via Elite degradation really shouldn't be tolerated IMO. This post adds absolutely nothing of value to the thread but to doom and offer up SC as the 'salvation'.
Not really! lol
The people who programed Odyssey know more about what the issues are than we the player base. So we can theories as much as we want, but the programmers made this mess, are aware of what's causing the issues and only they can fix it (if they can)
That is the opposite of excellent cooling. And I'd say it is not related to Elite in your case, any other GPU heavy game like Anno 2070 or Metro Exodus would fry your GPU in the same way, if not worse. Check your airflow and GPU cooler.
I had applied fresh thermal paste on my GPUs which lowered temps more than 10C at load. I say more than because they would occasionally throttle, so wouldn't reach higher temps. After that I got quite a bit better performance potential in Horizons going from 190 FPS to 230 FPS borderless, 250 FPS full-screen.
Unfortunately this made no noticeable difference in Odyssey's performance potential, but at least the GPUs are a bit cooler and more quiet.
This would suggest maybe a CPU bottleneck, as others have mentioned, but that isn't shown to be the case based on my low CPU loads either, total and per thread or core.
It's like Odyssey itself is its own bottleneck, waiting on timed states to push frames or something. Very strange.
Unfortunately this made no noticeable difference in Odyssey's performance potential, but at least the GPUs are a bit cooler and more quiet.
This would suggest maybe a CPU bottleneck, as others have mentioned, but that isn't shown to be the case based on my low CPU loads either, total and per thread or core.
It's like Odyssey itself is its own bottleneck, waiting on timed states to push frames or something. Very strange.
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No. Not really
I run ED on a laptop. and my RTX3080 does not exceed 82°C - usually it stays between 71°C and 80°C
That is excellent cooling (the cooling is silent enough that i can play with laptops speakers at low volume)
Understood to a degree, but FDev request player feedback on the issues so it's not as cut and dry as you say. I'm not disagreeing that FDev need to fix what can only be described initally as a clusterf*** but these aren't pointless. If my comment missed the mark, I apologize. o7
Same to you CMDR
It's just frustrating the situation some of us are in regarding Odyssey.
Fly safe CMDR and if you cannot! Fly Dangerously!
Rumor is it was the end of their fiscal year and the bean counters wanted it released.
I still can't play Odyssey at all. My computer is just too old. I have no idea how they're going to make it ready for consoles.
If anything, having to only get it working to a single specification rather than the myriad of configs on the PC platform will be the thing that allows them to make it work. With a target of 30fps I think they may already be mostly there.
30 fps is acceptable for consoles?
I have a radeon 5700xt, which measures temperatures in different locations and in different ways than previous amd cards, much less nvidia. So comparing the temps is not apples to apples. 110C at the junction (which is a reported temp and not hidden internally on the card and aggregated into something to report to sensor tools) is the thermal limit for this card. The thermal limit where frequency throttling will occur on yours is not going to be that high (83C or so seems to be the default for the 3080). So yea, it doesn't exceed 82C, because it's throttling when it hits that temp to lower frequencies.
Not because you have superior cooling.
Yes actually, though some games now offer a high framerate/performance mode.
I mean, it has been since the PS2 era. Even PS5 games usually run at 30fps. We are only just now finally seeing console games offering the option for 60fps Performance modes.
Not that I'm saying 30fps is an acceptable standard for PC gaming.
The worst FPS drops in my case are linked with pretty low CPU & GPU usage and seems to be connected with AI problems.
A few minutes ago I was in a CZ and the ennemy AI was stuck spinning on the same spot...during this "AI bug" I had a steady 5 FPS during close to 1 minute...my GPU & CPU usage was around 30%...
Update 9 is focused, in part on AI, if I'm right so it should solve a part of the problem I'm encoutering right now in every CZ...
A few minutes ago I was in a CZ and the ennemy AI was stuck spinning on the same spot...during this "AI bug" I had a steady 5 FPS during close to 1 minute...my GPU & CPU usage was around 30%...
Update 9 is focused, in part on AI, if I'm right so it should solve a part of the problem I'm encoutering right now in every CZ...
Has anyone tried disabling cores through process lasso or something? Maybe it is a job spawn issue, I can give er a whirl
Edit : Seems to have no effect. Oddly enough, on my 5600x the difference between all 6 cores and SMT and 4 cores (no SMT) is 4-5 fps. This further supports the theory the cpu is just not being utilized, however not a job spawn issue
Edit : Seems to have no effect. Oddly enough, on my 5600x the difference between all 6 cores and SMT and 4 cores (no SMT) is 4-5 fps. This further supports the theory the cpu is just not being utilized, however not a job spawn issue
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I have to wonder if the AI + navmesh stuff is on the same thread(s) as all of the other rendering. Now that I'm thinking about NPCs specifically, almost every recent crazy frame drop I've had was in a populated settlement. Empty ones have been pretty stable. Maybe Update 9 will end up being the big performance boost.