Curse you Python! Stop being so damn useful!

[ThriveInDark]

That's why you buy three pythons. A miner, a mission/trader, and mid size gunship.

Ok but along that line of thought, there are better ship choices when only considering individual tasks at a time. The whole point of this thread is that it is the ultimate multi-role.

It may actually be the ideal miner smaller than large pad but a real miner loadout doesn't care much about pad hunting, that's a mission runner problem, so the Anaconda etc crowd wins there.

The FDL is more combat effective and faster, and medium pad

And I think a strong argument can be made that the AspX is a better mission runner, it carries plenty of cargo, jumps much further, flies 70 m/s faster, and mine has 115 dps for some ungodly stupid reason so I'm basically jailbait for pirate interdictors, it is sort of fantastic.

I'm betting it'd still be superior to any attempt to configure any other medium-pad ship in a similar manner.

This..... is probably fair

 

[Shinji Ikari]

The Python is a major bum-magnet, and I've found my own drawn back to mine (I own three) more times than I care to count.

The Dolphin is a rival in the small ship department though, despite being far less combat-capable.

In the Large Ship department, it's tough to beat the Orca for general use.

Anaconda is much better than the Orca.

 

[ThriveInDark]

Anaconda is much better than the Orca.

Actually its literally only better if full on combat is on the menu. The Orca has better speed (by 200 m/s) and handling, 35+ LY jump range, plenty of mission style cargo space, so you can easily outrun anything you can't kill with 1 Large and 2 Med hardpoints. I'm not anti-conda but its by far my least flown ship yet I have my largest chunk of assets in a single ship tied up into it. Can't sell her now though because I engineered her, and 150 mil back for the hull is worth a lot less than the modules inside her, as we all know.

 

[Spacecat]

I just switched to my Conda last night because I never use it, but I know it's only a matter of time before I see a mission I can't do and wish I had my Python instead.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Actually its literally only better if full on combat is on the menu. The Orca has better speed (by 200 m/s) and handling, 35+ LY jump range, plenty of mission style cargo space, so you can easily outrun anything you can't kill with 1 Large and 2 Med hardpoints. I'm not anti-conda but its by far my least flown ship yet I have my largest chunk of assets in a single ship tied up into it. Can't sell her now though because I engineered her, and 150 mil back for the hull is worth a lot less than the modules inside her, as we all know.

Anaconda has the best jump range and more cargo space, max speed and handling is mostly irrelevant unless you are keen in doing combat which the Anaconda is also better. The other advantage is passengers but some pay very well and don't need luxury cabins.

 

[Hooplah]

The Python even with mild engineering is the ultimate do everything ship short of combat. It can hold it's own but a dedicated Fer de Lance or FAS for pure combat is better. Meanwhile one can go through all the Engineers completing their requirements with a Python. No other ship comes close. You decide.

 

[Devari]

Actually its literally only better if full on combat is on the menu. The Orca has better speed (by 200 m/s) and handling, 35+ LY jump range, plenty of mission style cargo space, so you can easily outrun anything you can't kill with 1 Large and 2 Med hardpoints. I'm not anti-conda but its by far my least flown ship yet I have my largest chunk of assets in a single ship tied up into it. Can't sell her now though because I engineered her, and 150 mil back for the hull is worth a lot less than the modules inside her, as we all know.

The Anaconda outclasses the Orca is almost every way except for the Orca's speed and the ability to carry luxury cabins. The Anaconda is much more heavily armed, can carry an SLF, can carry far more cargo, can jump father, has far stronger shields and armor and twice as many utility slots. The Orca also can't rely on its speed to escape a combat-fitted Clipper which is superior in combat.

The Orca is a decent ship, and is comparable overall to the Clipper, but it is no match for the Anaconda in terms of overall capabilities.

 

[ThriveInDark]

Anaconda has the best jump range and more cargo space, max speed and handling is mostly irrelevant unless you are keen in doing combat which the Anaconda is also better. The other advantage is passengers but some pay very well and don't need luxury cabins.

MAX cargo only matters for trading specifically, Jump Range over 40 LY (which I can do in my orca) is subjectively not that important while running missions in the bubble, real firepower is only necessary for RES/CZ combat now thanks to engineers, and many have become capable of doing it in adders if its PVE they're dealing with.

We were specifically talking about multi-mission board loadouts, which large pad ships aren't particularly good for anyway.

The Anaconda outclasses the Orca is almost every way except for the Orca's speed and the ability to carry luxury cabins. The Anaconda is much more heavily armed, can carry an SLF, can carry far more cargo, can jump father, has far stronger shields and armor and twice as many utility slots. The Orca also can't rely on its speed to escape a combat-fitted Clipper which is superior in combat.

The Orca is a decent ship, and is comparable overall to the Clipper, but it is no match for the Anaconda in terms of overall capabilities.

My Orca goes 572, a 29.8% roll on a combat Clipper with no armor/HRPs etc gets you to 551, the Orca is actually in pretty rare territory as far as speed goes, unique in terms of m/s per ton.

I wasn't really trying to say the Orca was better than the Anaconda, or the reverse, more than the Orca is 100% capable of doing all the same stuff and in my subjective opinion a lot more fun to fly in the process of running missions. Lots of supercruising and docking runs and all.

 

[ZeroAi]

Current career about 8 months. Plenty of money. More then I know what to do with. Access to all ships except the two top tier rank-locked ships.

Off to my favorite LYR ship to buy a Python for...oh...the 10th time in this career.
Try to keep myself to minimal number of ships. Had one all A-rated and sold it 4 days ago as I (obviously) often do but, on Day 4 I am off to buy another. Working the BGS and, again, it has shown itself to be the King.

Try to get rid of it, try to make do with other ships as a Lakon fan, but it's just too great, handy, and incredibly useful.
Damn you Python. Hopefully I have finally learned my lesson and I'll keep it this time.

THE PYTHON ROCKS (drops mic)

Just wish it would support four player MC w SRVs + four SLF, but not even the Conda does that :-(

 

[Cmdr Tel]

MAX cargo only matters for trading specifically, Jump Range over 40 LY (which I can do in my orca) is subjectively not that important while running missions in the bubble, real firepower is only necessary for RES/CZ combat now thanks to engineers, and many have become capable of doing it in adders if its PVE they're dealing with.

We were specifically talking about multi-mission board loadouts, which large pad ships aren't particularly good for anyway.



My Orca goes 572, a 29.8% roll on a combat Clipper with no armor/HRPs etc gets you to 551, the Orca is actually in pretty rare territory as far as speed goes, unique in terms of m/s per ton.

I wasn't really trying to say the Orca was better than the Anaconda, or the reverse, more than the Orca is 100% capable of doing all the same stuff and in my subjective opinion a lot more fun to fly in the process of running missions. Lots of supercruising and docking runs and all.

You forgot to mention the super cruise handling which is fabulous unlike an ananconda that will eventually...maybe....turn. Plus she's a good looking ship.

 

[Captain Willard]

You forgot to mention the super cruise handling which is fabulous unlike an ananconda that will eventually...maybe....turn. Plus she's a good looking ship.

True that. I bought an Annie once. A specced it out, drove it for maybe 1/2 hr and sold it. Drives like a brick. Ye love it or hate it.

 

[Falcon_D]

I love my Python. Use it about 80% of the time. I also have a Sidey, Cobra, Conda, Vette and Cutter.
The Sidey is just for fun, and for my niece to fly around in when she wants to play.
The Cobra is mainly there for sentimentality and also if/when I feel like getting into a fast, small ship.
The Vette is my serious CZ/Res hunter. Especially when doing CZ missions.
The Cutter is mainly for running Trade CGs now (used it to close in on my Trade Elite.) Also, useful in doing some bounty hunting.
The Conda is my explorer. I take her out whenever I have to itch to go far and wide.
My Python, is my go to ship for pretty much every thing. A spot of bounty hunting, a quick dash into a CZ, some light trading, an exploration trip to Sgr A* and especially mission running.
All my ships are pretty much A-Graded, except for the Conda which by virtue of needing higher jump range has some of her modules D-rated. Also, all of them, except the Sidey, have G5 engineer mods.

Have fun, fly safe. o7

 

[kofeyh]

Python is a grand ship. Very good. However I've spent most of my time lately in Orca and Beluga. It's reminded me that whilst Python is a great ship, it's actually a good example, like Anaconda, of too much of a good thing (a generalist ship) just trumping everything else.

I've spent a lot of time in one, but honestly it's become boring to use. Orca has been awesome fun. Looking forward to bringing mine back from the exploration run that will get my primary account to triple elite. I intend to then spend a lot more time in Cutter, Dropship and others. Not because they are all better than python. But because many ships aren't, and that makes them far more interesting to use.

I've found the python to be great, but it just has no soul. Anaconda, for me, is the same. Perhaps getting cutter broke me. Suddenly I'm in a dropship and all manner of other rides, having a lot more fun.

 

[Droid8Apple]

The Python is a major bum-magnet, and I've found my own drawn back to mine (I own three) more times than I care to count.

The Dolphin is a rival in the small ship department though, despite being far less combat-capable.

In the Large Ship department, it's tough to beat the Orca for general use.

THANK YOU. I feel crazy for being Combat Elite but flying the Dolphin as much as my Anaconda lol. It's like the Porsche 911 of ships. Gorgeous, responsive, fast, nimble... I can't get enough of the damned thing.

 

[Hairy Polo]

To Op, lol! Yep, the sturdy Python, arguably the best all rounder

 

[Spacecat]

THANK YOU. I feel crazy for being Combat Elite but flying the Dolphin as much as my Anaconda lol. It's like the Porsche 911 of ships. Gorgeous, responsive, fast, nimble... I can't get enough of the damned thing.

Dolphin is really fun. I use mine a lot and it's mostly just grd 1-3 engineered.

 

[racer1]

I hardly ever use my g5 engineered python because it is just too good lol.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

MAX cargo only matters for trading specifically, Jump Range over 40 LY (which I can do in my orca) is subjectively not that important while running missions in the bubble, real firepower is only necessary for RES/CZ combat now thanks to engineers, and many have become capable of doing it in adders if its PVE they're dealing with.

We were specifically talking about multi-mission board loadouts, which large pad ships aren't particularly good for anyway.

Ahhh, there's the caviat, both the Orca and the Anaconda are large ships. Also, long range trading benefits a lot from long jump ranges. Did I mention that the Anaconda can do 40 ly with no mods?

 

[HeavyGroovez]

Yeah I use her for material gathering. Takes approximately 5 seconds to kill a T9 with triple G5 double shot frags with screening shell. An Elite Conda might last 30 seconds approx.

Combat in it is dull as hell. Stuff dies so fast with the engied frags that its pointless.

Ironically the best PvE all rounder stands no chance in PvP.

 

[lysan]

Yeah, been playing with the idea to get the mighty Python back, you can get a good one for around 150.000.000 Cr
also like the new paint jobs and spikes, oh well let's keep the FD store alive