Cutter/Corvette and powerpay impact

Not going to bother with Prismatic shields. I'll instead get some upgraded versions of railguns and plasma accelerators, as they have identical weight/power draw but better effect.
 
Yeah, the whole prismatic shield thing is a bit troubling, a ship that can run them has quite an advantage, which makes one faction only having such a shield troubling in my book, really wish power play items were reworked so for example each faction had their own item you got quickest, but if you kept staying loyal you would eventually have access to everything.

It's not THAT huge an advantage. Seriously. I have one in my Clipper and the practical effects are this:

It's pretty close to having one extra A class Shield Booster. Given that you only have 4 utility slots, this really is more practically seen as freeing up a utility slot for other things.

Alternately, it can be seen as having one level up in a basic Shield Generator, but without using the larger slot. So my 6A PSG is like having a 7A PSG (and weighs as much too, don't forget) but leaves my 7A free for cargo.

It uses up more energy than just a Shield Booster, though, so it makes managing your weapons power more difficult unless you're happy with Pulse lasers (as many are, but I'm not)

It's an edge, for sure, but not as huge as some make it out to be.
 
can someone do the maths on the the corvette with a size 8A shield if its hull is around 750 tonnes, i say 750 because surely it has better base shield than a t9 and if its hull is more than 1000 we might see size 9 shields. which considering the panther clipper will be a direct upgrade to the t9 and heavier, is inevitable.

Without knowing the base shield strength of the ships, it's impossible to calculate how effective various generators are on them (even if you guess their tonnage).
 
The advantage a prismatic shield gives over a shield booster is dependent on how many utility slots you have. For example in an anaconda going from 7 to 8 A0 boosters increases your shield shield from 240% to 260%. However, having 7 A0 boosters and swapping your A class shield for a similar sized prismatic, increases your shield strength from 240% to 288% - over double the effect of adding one booster.
 
T9s have a C8 slot

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IMO prismatics should draw more power and weigh less. They should be for traders, not combat ships.

Regardless, I'm hoping the 1.5 changes to SCBs will disrupt the shield meta somewhat



what 1.5 changes? fd haven't said anything about changing scb in 1.5 update
 
A prismatic only adds about 0.2% to a regular counterpart, and adds extra power consumption on top of it; basically it is just the added difference of one A-grade shield booster, with the extra power consumption. no biggie.
FDL, no boosters, 5A normal = 468 MJ - 3,64 MW
FDL, no boosters, 5A Prisma = 558 MJ - 5,46 MW
19% more shield at 50% higher power usage.

So yeah....not 0.2 but a significant boost, especially once you begin adding boosters. For an FDL it isn't really worth it, due to limitation of power. Ships without rough power limitations though like say conda or python? definitely worth the boost.
 
I suspect it will be irrelevant shortly.

I'm thinking loot crafting systems will likely allow creation of a prismatic shield making it available to all.

FWIW prismatic shield isn;t *that* amazing, it has trade offs.

It's TWICE the weight of a a standard shield so affects your jump range and maneuverability, and has nearly TWICE twice the power draw. This isn't great for combat ships given they're right on the edge of their power limits with a standard shield and combat fit anyway, you have to make some serious sacrifices if you want want on your combat Vulture/FdL or whatever.

And for that you get something like a 15% increase in base shield strength.

It's not the game breaker some people seem to think, what is good about it is that it provides options, if for whatever reason your loadout suits a prismatic well the option is there.
 
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I considered storing a Prismatic Shield A8 in a T-9 exactly for the possibility that the Cutter would use Class 8 shields. I didn't thou, so I'm probably going to switch power after testing the ship for some time with regular shields.
 
It gives me a distinct defensive advantage in my 'conda, but no additional offence as offered by other powers. I guess it depends on how you want to be.

That's hardly surprising, given the only item that determines your offensive output is the Power distributor. There's nothing we can put into utility slots or internals to further increase our offensive capabilities.

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And what makes you believe they will be able to power that ? Combat ships are notoriously underpowered in ED.

Like the Courier?
 
Like the Courier?

Even in the Courier you have to make compromises. Yes, I can install top regular shields, 3 SCBs and a low power weapon setup just fine. Using prismatic shields and/or high power guns like rails quickly goes above what your powerplant can handle. But I agree, the balance on the Courier is good enough with it's high base shield. Also there's no multirole ship in the same price/performance bracket that outperforms it as much as in the higher brackets.
 
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I suspect it will be irrelevant shortly.

I'm thinking loot crafting systems will likely allow creation of a prismatic shield making it available to

you are misinformed or spreading disinfo.
DB and Mr Soon(tm) both said looting and crafting will be about colourfull lasers and what not.
Not real crafting like ships stronger weapons and the likes.

sorry to crush your dream.

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Yes they did. Nothing in specific tho, but they said they will change SCBs.

ORLY???
Did the nerf crowd win again?
 
I don't use prismatics. Heavy. Power hungry. 20% more. Not good enough.
I do a lot of pvp and I am good. I like to have decent jump range, agility and power to weapons. Prismatics are not mandatory:]
 
The prismatic shield is the only pp goody worth having.

the hammer is nice.

haven't tried out the prismatic yet, will do, but coriolis.io consistently tells me i have no use whatsoever for it ...

However I really do not like the empire bias in this game so its not for me.

imperials are scum, but so are the feds. and the alliance would be the exact same scum if it had the power. power is the coincidence.

Quite happy to be the underdog with normal shields against a stacked opposition.

there's irony in fighting them with their own weapons. i also infiltrate their ranks, get permit to their systems and their most respected distinctions. why shouldn't i? me being declared earl means i can order quite a bunch of imps to get me some coffee whenever i please, and is in itself a slap in the face of all imperial earls. isn't that something?
 
Prismatic shields are bad, you get same shield bonus like one class A shield booster but you pay more then double power usage.
 
Even in the Courier you have to make compromises. Yes, I can install top regular shields, 3 SCBs and a low power weapon setup just fine. Using prismatic shields and/or high power guns like rails quickly goes above what your powerplant can handle. But I agree, the balance on the Courier is good enough with it's high base shield. Also there's no multirole ship in the same price/performance bracket that outperforms it as much as in the higher brackets.

No ship exists where you don't have to make compromises. I can't run prismatic shields, 8 lasers and 8 boosters on an Anaconda either. The Courier has a larger power plant than any other module (4 vs all 3s), that makes it a very well powered ship. The ships that struggle with power issues are those that have a smaller power plant than multiple outfittings in place. ie the Eagle with C2 power plant, but C3 shield and Thrusters

The Federal combat ships don't seem to have power issues either.

Almost everyone once flew a viper or an eagle, and those are power starved. And now "every" combat ship is, even though the majority are just fine.
 
there's irony in fighting them with their own weapons. i also infiltrate their ranks, get permit to their systems and their most respected distinctions. why shouldn't i? me being declared earl means i can order quite a bunch of imps to get me some coffee whenever i please, and is in itself a slap in the face of all imperial earls. isn't that something?

You are not infiltrating, you are joining and you are working for them.
 
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