Dark side of planets still not dark

Quick question for those being more intelligent than I am: Does our atmosphere filter light? Is it even comparable to an airless world?
 
And if the dam breaks open many years too soon,
And if there is no room upon the hill.
And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too,
I'll see you on the badly artificially lit side of the moon.
 
The simple test for this to go to the edge of the Galaxy, land on a planet on the side facing away from the rest of the Galaxy and it's sun. There will be no starlight there. Just magic fairy light.
 

verminstar

Banned
The simple test for this to go to the edge of the Galaxy, land on a planet on the side facing away from the rest of the Galaxy and it's sun. There will be no starlight there. Just magic fairy light.

Few have already done that...the result is beyond comical ^
 
The simple test for this to go to the edge of the Galaxy, land on a planet on the side facing away from the rest of the Galaxy and it's sun. There will be no starlight there. Just magic fairy light.

Actually it's pitch black AFAIK. No fairy light there.

Few have already done that...the result is beyond comical ^

I am pretty sure someone shared some black screenshots last time we had this discussion.
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
What would satisfy everyone on this subject is using actual science. The cokcpit glass should be able to show all waves of light, UV, IR, Thermal, night vision - enhancing what we see on the cockpit glass.

And the option to turn it all off so we get the darkness too.
 

verminstar

Banned
Actually it's pitch black AFAIK. No fairy light there.



I am pretty sure someone shared some black screenshots last time we had this discussion.

It has changed recently so that its not a uniform effect...some planets and moons do stay dark fer a few minutes before their false dawn effect kicks in, while a few, like the casino in deciat the other night just stay dark all the time which just makes ye sit and scratch yer head in confusion.

Last time I saw anyone go to the edge, they showed planets which should have been all but pitch black, facing the space where there are no stars, lit up like the carnival with no obvious light sources at all...not even other stars. That may have changed and is different now...Im in the bubble so cant check fer meself anytime soon ^
 
What would satisfy everyone on this subject is using actual science. The cokcpit glass should be able to show all waves of light, UV, IR, Thermal, night vision - enhancing what we see on the cockpit glass.

And the option to turn it all off so we get the darkness too.

If this game used actual science it wouldn't be a game but more of a movie. We now have massive spaceships, space station and FTL travel. By that logic my ship should be able to do very basic things like land its-self, auto pilot to a destination, fuel scoop automatically without getting too hot, dock and undock without an entire module to do the job..The list goes on :).
 
Few have already done that...the result is beyond comical ^

The tests I have seen show pitch black planets (facing away from the core at the edge of the galaxy) has that now changed? Same deal during an eclipse, or when down in canyons/deep in mountain ranges.
 
The tests I have seen show pitch black planets (facing away from the core at the edge of the galaxy) has that now changed? Same deal during an eclipse, or when down in canyons/deep in mountain ranges.

I'm not far from the bottom but I am on my boat so may not have the network connectivity to get there anytime soon.
 

verminstar

Banned
The tests I have seen show pitch black planets (facing away from the core at the edge of the galaxy) has that now changed? Same deal during an eclipse, or when down in canyons/deep in mountain ranges.

If its changed then happy days...not saying thats the way it is, but thats the way it was last I checked. Be that as it may, when coming in fer a planetary landing from a light side to a dark side looks cool...until ye actually get there and dawn makes the entire planet illuminated. That was last night and the night before that and the...anyway...it looks absolutely comical. Even more so when ye see the planets are tidally locked so their dark side would, or should be in constant darkness ^
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
If this game used actual science it wouldn't be a game but more of a movie. We now have massive spaceships, space station and FTL travel. By that logic my ship should be able to do very basic things like land its-self, auto pilot to a destination, fuel scoop automatically without getting too hot, dock and undock without an entire module to do the job..The list goes on :).

Aah but I didn't say the game had to use actual science. I meant that if "we" use actual science, then we can apply those things into the game and it isn't a magic trick.

As for being on the edge of the galaxy - why does everyone think there's no space dust/gas for light to reflect back onto planets and not only that, light from other galaxies (which would probably be insignificant now I googled it lol)?

and then there's this...

An alien world blacker than coal, the darkest planet known, has been discovered in the galaxy.

The world in question is a giant the size of Jupiter known as TrES-2b. NASA's Kepler spacecraft detected it lurking around the yellow sun-like star GSC 03549-02811 some 750 light years away in the direction of the constellation Draco.

The researchers found this gas giant reflects less than 1 percent of the sunlight falling on it, making it darker than any planet or moon seen up to now.

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Darkest planet ever discovered is a gas giant but reflects only 1 percent of the light falling on it. Scientists speculate an unknown chemical or gas is absorbing light.

By Charles Q. Choi, Space.com August 12, 2011

An alien world blacker than coal, the darkest planet known, has been discovered in the galaxy.

The world in question is a giant the size of Jupiter known as TrES-2b. NASA's Kepler spacecraft detected it lurking around the yellow sun-like star GSC 03549-02811 some 750 light years away in the direction of the constellation Draco.

The researchers found this gas giant reflects less than 1 percent of the sunlight falling on it, making it darker than any planet or moon seen up to now. [The Strangest Alien Planets]
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"It's just ridiculous how dark this planet is, how alien it is compared to anything we have in our solar system," study lead-author David Kipping, an astronomer at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics, told SPACE.com. "It's darker than the blackest lump of coal, than dark acrylic paint you might paint with. It's bizarre how this huge planet became so absorbent of all the light that hits it."

https://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2011/0812/Pitch-black-The-mystery-of-a-darkest-planet-ever-seen

NASA are tracking this as it shortly left the orbit of it's own solar systems almost moments after they viewed it through a telescope and it's now heading towards our solar system - how creepy is that!
 
when coming in fer a planetary landing from a light side to a dark side looks cool...until ye actually get there and dawn makes the entire planet illuminated. That was last night and the night before that and the...anyway...it looks absolutely comical. Even more so when ye see the planets are tidally locked so their dark side would, or should be in constant darkness ^

Agree 100%, it looks terrible, been away for the past 6 months hoping all this stuff would have been fixed by now. Am surprised the artificial lighting got out of beta, for such a visually stunning game the lighting effect looks like some last minute addition that wasn't implemented correctly.
 

verminstar

Banned
Agree 100%, it looks terrible, been away for the past 6 months hoping all this stuff would have been fixed by now. Am surprised the artificial lighting got out of beta, for such a visually stunning game the lighting effect looks like some last minute addition that wasn't implemented correctly.

It used to be all of them...now its best described as a grey area after some change I heard nothing about. Now its a case of hit and miss with no real explanation as to why...I think it was another one of those unintentional changes that appeared to slip through the beta safety net, but I avoid beta testing like the plague so I really am guessing.

Whatever...to see a planets dark side from a distance looks amazing and gets ye wondering what mountains and canyons are hidden ready to punish the unwary...only fer dawn to arrive in record quick time and reveal the flat featureless desert below. Its not as funny as it sounds unfortunately ^
 
If this game used actual science it wouldn't be a game but more of a movie. We now have massive spaceships, space station and FTL travel. By that logic my ship should be able to do very basic things like land its-self, auto pilot to a destination, fuel scoop automatically without getting too hot, dock and undock without an entire module to do the job..The list goes on :).

He's right though, our cockpit should rightfully enhance any wavelength of our choosing, and also be able to be turned off. no?
 
that would be cool if it were pitch black and you had a terrain warning light up.. not that terrain is a problem as most planets seem as flat as pancakes but still.
 
So I made it to the bottom, well pretty much. I'm in system Eod Prou AL-V d3-0 which is at -2824.69. I first landed round the corner with a bit of the starfield still visible and it may as well have been midday. So i moved around the planet as far as I could before the sun became visible. It seems pretty dark now. I wonder if the issue is simply that the light from the starfield needs to be dialed back.

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