I was able to get onto Anthor on the edsm discord.
Data cleanup efforts throughout the galaxy
- Thread starter Lance 'Spacecat' D.
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I was able to get onto Anthor on the edsm discord.
Just thought I would come back to this for an addition, been on the lookout for an atmospheric body with 0.00 atmospheric pressure and have finally found one. On checking it has 100% sulfer dioxide atmosphere, the surface temp is 212k, sulfer dioxide freezes at 214k, so any sulfer dioxide on this little rock is frozen solid! Thus no atmospheric pressure.
Well folks, I thought we had a victory, but something pesky happened.
https://www.spansh.co.uk/bodies/search/88502904-EEA2-11E9-BDD6-B365EEB0430A/1 still shows multiple worlds with no type. And they appeared after we did serious cleanup in the galaxy.
Somewhere somehow, bad data is sneaking in the database, it makes my fur itch.
https://www.spansh.co.uk/bodies/search/88502904-EEA2-11E9-BDD6-B365EEB0430A/1 still shows multiple worlds with no type. And they appeared after we did serious cleanup in the galaxy.
Somewhere somehow, bad data is sneaking in the database, it makes my fur itch.
There is a very strange earth-like world Lysoorb OS-U c2-5 body #b 7 that is known as a current galactic record for the coldest ELW: according to EDSM it's temperature is 0K.
Since this is the only scanned body in the system, it looks, that the data is very old.
So, this might be either a StellarForge bug, or just some old not full data like with those planets with 0Km radius.
I turned out to be approximately 20 jumps* from there. Time to check
*Neutron boosted
Since this is the only scanned body in the system, it looks, that the data is very old.
So, this might be either a StellarForge bug, or just some old not full data like with those planets with 0Km radius.
I turned out to be approximately 20 jumps* from there. Time to check
*Neutron boosted
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I think this will happen again and again in the future so we totally need a group to solve this problem:
The data squirrels.
We have data. You dont. Any questions?
Im semi serious. It c/would be fun. Lots of people have a second accound just for exploration (and I am going to have one). On a quarterly basis Lance aka SquirrelOne checks the db and then we swarm out.
Well, I'm afraid, I have some bad news. We'll have to find another coldest ELW
Doesn't look very frosty on the surface, and that can't be explained with the pressure. There must be somthing mixed into the water, wouldn't drink that
Well, about the bad data. The EDSM people have had a look at this and...
The data was given properly, but saved improperly? So they're on top of this mystery like the Scooby Doo gang on top of a ghost.
Just give them some more time. (Spansh improved his tool to have a quicker turnaround rate too, I believe, which is awesome)
Meanwhile if you guys want to have fun, there's still about a thousand planets with 'zero distance from main star' in the database. https://www.spansh.co.uk/bodies/search/9BD9F87A-E951-11E9-813C-1868EEB0430A/1
The data was given properly, but saved improperly? So they're on top of this mystery like the Scooby Doo gang on top of a ghost.
Just give them some more time. (Spansh improved his tool to have a quicker turnaround rate too, I believe, which is awesome)
Meanwhile if you guys want to have fun, there's still about a thousand planets with 'zero distance from main star' in the database. https://www.spansh.co.uk/bodies/search/9BD9F87A-E951-11E9-813C-1868EEB0430A/1
I'm near some of those and just basically kicking around Sag A* area until the update drop, I will get a few while I am waiting.
I'm curious, do any of you use the data available here http://www.visitedstarscache.space/ to change their game's visited stars cache so that the in game galaxy map shows all visited stars logged on EDSM?
I don't for 2 reasons (mostly the 2nd reason):
- I want to have my own visited starts cache (and I am to lazy to recreate a new one from the edsm or EDD database if I want to change between my own and the global discoveries)
- There are several million systems that are visited and will appear in the cache but have incomplete data (most of them only the main star). Everytime I jump to a new system I check in eddiscovery if there are planets/stars missind and scan the full system in those cases.
Yeah I get that. Where I am right now there are a lot of red, unvisited, systems but I still drop in to the blue ones en route to my destination as there are, indeed, many that are incompletely scanned.
Actually, quite an amusing thing - in my travels I come across fully and partially scanned systems as well as new discoveries, obviously, but I also notice the names of commanders who found the systems and I've got a bit of a mental log of those that are likely to have fully covered the system and those that have only scanned the more valuable ones.
Damn there are a lot of holes in EDSM!
Damn there are a lot of holes in EDSM!
Before FSS became a thing, I rarely scanned a system fully with DSS. Now with FSS, I rarely leave bodies unscanned with FSS (which is equivalent of the old DSS scan). But if I feel I'm in a hurry, then I may jump along without even opening the FSS screen.
I did the same. Scanning was much slower at the time. Most explorers (AFAIK) only scanned ELW and WW. I tried to guess terraformables too (a minigame in itself). Ice planets/moons?, nah.
Before the FSS I often skipped WW and ELW if they were inconvenient or far away, but always scanned bodies that might have vulcanism. So if you visit one of my early system you might find unscanned ELW's, but find all the moons of a distant gas giant scanned. And I also never use visited stars cache except my own if I am exploring a small area. I also never filter stars from my route so I probably have a higher count of dwarfs than many other explorers.
The system I just scanned was already tagged, not all bodies were scanned, the body with the tubers was tagged and scanned using the DSS, but it's likely neither vulcanism or the bio was located, so even bodies that have been tagged and scanned using the DSS are still worth scanning with the DSS and mapping with surface probes. Of course as FDEV introduce more bio and other stuff the same applies, using the FSS and probes on bodies in the future may reveal bio and alien bases that weren't previously there when it was originally scanned and mapped.
So going into the future it's quite possible we may miss stuff simply because we skip already visited systems rather than dropping in and using the FSS.
Ok that was interesting, just updated another body with 0ls distance from the star, and what a strange error. Fortunately I took screenshots of the EDSM page before jumpingin, the reason in this case there was 0ls distance from the star was because....there was no star!
Here is the main EDSM system summary page and bodies page before I jumped in;
Note of interest here, the system summary shows one body, and that body is the planet 7 with basically no information at all! So of course no distance to the star. The detailed view however shows it was scanned and mapped by [ZLO]FeNRiR, so this was after the introduction of the FSS.
So, what changed on EDSM after I jumped in?
The first interesting is it shows me as the first player to report the system to EDSM, even though [ZLO]FeNRiR's tag is actually on the star.
The system summary now shows full details, 11 bodies altogether;
We now have a star.
And a fully detailed report on body 7 with the correct image.
The only thing I can assume from this change is that whatever the original visitor to the system was using, only the data reported from the surface scanner and probes was forwarded to EDSM, the scan data from the FSS was never forwarded, this may give us some help in tracking down what is actually causing these errors.
Here is the main EDSM system summary page and bodies page before I jumped in;
Note of interest here, the system summary shows one body, and that body is the planet 7 with basically no information at all! So of course no distance to the star. The detailed view however shows it was scanned and mapped by [ZLO]FeNRiR, so this was after the introduction of the FSS.
So, what changed on EDSM after I jumped in?
The first interesting is it shows me as the first player to report the system to EDSM, even though [ZLO]FeNRiR's tag is actually on the star.
The system summary now shows full details, 11 bodies altogether;
We now have a star.
And a fully detailed report on body 7 with the correct image.
The only thing I can assume from this change is that whatever the original visitor to the system was using, only the data reported from the surface scanner and probes was forwarded to EDSM, the scan data from the FSS was never forwarded, this may give us some help in tracking down what is actually causing these errors.