Dear FD when you plan to patch BETA on live server?

As the title says..... getting bit bored to play this " bug buster" build you have realised to the live server.

So please be so kind and give use estimated time when you finely release normal build of 2.2 instead of this Beta build wich actually never been supposed released in this condition to live server and make from you paid customers are frustrated beta testers.

Tnx in advance for your response!
 
Care to specify exactly what you expect a patch for?
H Ian,

while I'd chose different wording than OP, here's an initial list of bugs I guess we could do with fixing. 'They are going to be addressed' is not the point- you asked for a specific list.

Item storage:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/305456-Can-t-store-Power-Plant-or-Power-Distributor
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/304902-Module-disappeared-from-the-storage
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/304901-G5-FSD-Modification-not-Applied

Passenger missions:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...fail-quot-Take-me-to-the-closest-station-quot
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/298162-Bug-in-passenger-mission
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/297631-Passenger-Ignores-Location
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...turn-in-Passenger-Mission-without-cargo-space
- Insta-death by station https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306434-Instant-Ship-kill-through-Station
- Killed with non-wanted passengers: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...s-(Wanted-Insta-Kill-Missing-Visitor-Beacons)
- Not displaying the 2nd sightseeing destination properly (yes it is a bug. Not it is not ok to loiter around randomly or fly 1000ls close to a random location). Can't find the bug report
- Random kill with passenger onboard https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ger-caused-me-to-get-murdered-by-police-ships
- Abandoning missions reduces mission slot count: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306584-Limited-to-8-missions-maximum

Galmap:
- Slow for lots of people at random intervals
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306061-Maps-show-wrong-ship-location

Mission systems:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/303150-Maximum-Number-of-Missions-Contracts-reduced
- Nerf of mission payout:
bug report: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/300619-Trade-missions-not-paying-correctly
acknowledgement (?) that this is being investigated: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...of-1k-Delivery-Missions?p=4685916#post4685916
- Last second change of destination for passenger: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306474-OK-that-s-daft-FD-please-fix
- The well-known skimmer spawning problem: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/254302-No-Skimmers-at-destroy-skimmers-mission-location
- Exquisite crystals not spawning: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306253-No-exquisite-focus-crystal-rewards, https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/303961-Missions-are-stuck-on-Bioconductors and https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/303961-Missions-are-stuck-on-Bioconductors

Ship storage:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306412-Unable-to-access-stored-ship
- Ships showing up on wrong location at the map. Can't find the bug report

General:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306339-Attacking-Wanted-NPC-SLF-results-in-bounty
- Stutter/bad performance: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/300470-Microstuttering-and-Performance-loss
- SRV not refueling or repairing anymore: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/305189-What-happened-to-SRV-s?p=4736518
-FAS and FDS cockpits replaced with the FGS cockpit: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/302337-FAS-FDS-canopy-replaced-by-FGS-canopy
- Combat rank not displaying properly: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...Not-Displaying-Properly?p=4716984#post4716984
- 3D graphics bug from Beta https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...heme-causes-heavy-ghosting?highlight=Anaglyph
- Game crashes in CZ https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/302516-game-keeps-crashing-in-CZs?referrerid=138164
- Under investigation: Hyperspace jump time increase https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...-duration-it-was-in-2-1?p=4718432#post4718432
Great summary:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306044-A-list-of-new-and-old-bugs-most-of-us-encounter (16 items total)


I listed only things which are of 'some' game impact (this is subjective, I agree) and are ack'ed by FD.

Edit: Too many additional bugs added to list.

UPDATE:
- Broken balancing attempt and potential fix of said broken balancing attempt: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/308000-Balancing-Mission-Rewards
- Broken faction influence https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/305754-Extreme-drops-in-systems
- Abandoning passenger mission bugs https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ble-abandoned-Passenger-missions-stuck-in-log
 
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Ian Phillips

Volunteer Moderator
My comments aren't grumpy. I'm asking what he wants. Am I not permitted that?

Edit.
Still only seen the OP figuratively waving their arms and shouting that they want 'IT' fixed.

Really useful....
 
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Opening another thread about a faulty releas helps nothink. But grumpy comments from moderators are even more harmfull. Because you do realise that by closing your eyes the problems still persist?

Personaly i would like to see some other mission rewards besides biotech conductors.

What was grumpy about it?

Apparently, the community kicked up a fuss about quick fire patches following major updates so FD listened and stopped doing it. Expect a fairly large list of changes when 2.0.02 hits.
 

verminstar

Banned
My comments aren't grumpy. I'm asking what he wants. Am I not permitted that?

Edit.
Still only seen the OP figuratively waving their arms and shouting that they want 'IT' fixed.

Really useful....

One might assume there was no need to be specific with all the countless threads full of specifics...a 5 year old could probably work out the OP means the game needs to be fixed. While the original tone is a tad on the salty side, I find myself agreeing anyway. Your reply seems more about pedantics just fer the hell of it which is even less useful than you imagine it is.

Two weeks...thats pretty amateur actually...considering what was broke, one could be forgiven the surprise of wondering why a simple hotfix hasnt been released. Ive seen tiny dev teams on p2p games react faster than these guys.
 
One might assume there was no need to be specific with all the countless threads full of specifics...a 5 year old could probably work out the OP means the game needs to be fixed. While the original tone is a tad on the salty side, I find myself agreeing anyway. Your reply seems more about pedantics just fer the hell of it which is even less useful than you imagine it is.

Two weeks...thats pretty amateur actually...considering what was broke, one could be forgiven the surprise of wondering why a simple hotfix hasnt been released. Ive seen tiny dev teams on p2p games react faster than these guys.

Just because it's obvious to you, doesn't make it obvious to everyone. Of the list that was provided by someone else, not the OP, only one item affects me, and it's not a big deal.
Trying to guess what one player may think is broken is impossible. And no, having several posts concerning things people don't like, or that FD say are bugs, doesn't narrow down the guess any, since there are a lot of posts complaining about things that aren't bugs.
 
One might assume there was no need to be specific with all the countless threads full of specifics...a 5 year old could probably work out the OP means the game needs to be fixed. While the original tone is a tad on the salty side, I find myself agreeing anyway. Your reply seems more about pedantics just fer the hell of it which is even less useful than you imagine it is.

Two weeks...thats pretty amateur actually...considering what was broke, one could be forgiven the surprise of wondering why a simple hotfix hasnt been released. Ive seen tiny dev teams on p2p games react faster than these guys.

So the question of the topic is not something anyone can answer (and FD won't answer it). This is a discussion forum and the op posted an unanswerable question for discussion. So this can result in one of two outcomes. Either it falls off the page or people discuss stuff.

It was a valid question. It actually got an answer. I'm not sure what the benefit of questioning the motivation for the question provides.

As I said above, the delay is a direct result of the community asking FD to avoid multiple micro patches following a major update. The next build is therefore going to take more time. More so because there are a fair few things that need addressing. Therefore, the next update should contain a sizeable change list.

And "2 weeks is pretty amateur really"?

No, it's taking as long as it needs to. Unless you know what FD are doing internally, how can you possibly measure whether it's amateur?
 
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I totally do not see the point in the OPs tone.. nothing good can come of it even if we concede he has a point.

The only thing i will add, either way is, a little more communication from FD about how things are coming on would not go amiss imo.
 
H Ian,

while I'd chose different wording than OP, here's an initial list of bugs I guess we could do with fixing. 'They are going to be addressed' is not the point- you asked for a specific list.

Item storage:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/305456-Can-t-store-Power-Plant-or-Power-Distributor
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/304902-Module-disappeared-from-the-storage
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/304901-G5-FSD-Modification-not-Applied

Passenger missions:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...fail-quot-Take-me-to-the-closest-station-quot
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/298162-Bug-in-passenger-mission
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/297631-Passenger-Ignores-Location
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...turn-in-Passenger-Mission-without-cargo-space
- Insta-death by station https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306434-Instant-Ship-kill-through-Station
- Killed with non-wanted passengers: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...s-(Wanted-Insta-Kill-Missing-Visitor-Beacons)
- Not displaying the 2nd sightseeing destination properly (yes it is a bug. Not it is not ok to loiter around randomly or fly 1000ls close to a random location). Can't find the bug report
- Random kill with passenger onboard https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ger-caused-me-to-get-murdered-by-police-ships

Galmap:
- Slow for lots of people at random intervals
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306061-Maps-show-wrong-ship-location

Mission systems:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/303150-Maximum-Number-of-Missions-Contracts-reduced
- Nerf of mission payout
- Last second change of destination for passenger: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306474-OK-that-s-daft-FD-please-fix
- The well-known skimmer spawning problem: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/254302-No-Skimmers-at-destroy-skimmers-mission-location
- Exquisite crystals not spawning: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306253-No-exquisite-focus-crystal-rewards, https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/303961-Missions-are-stuck-on-Bioconductors and https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/303961-Missions-are-stuck-on-Bioconductors

Ship storage:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306412-Unable-to-access-stored-ship
- Ships showing up on wrong location at the map. Can't find the bug report

General:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306339-Attacking-Wanted-NPC-SLF-results-in-bounty

Great summary:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/306044-A-list-of-new-and-old-bugs-most-of-us-encounter (16 items total)

I listed only things which are of 'some' game impact (this is subjective, I agree) and are ack'ed by FD.

Edit: Added crystals not spawning
Thanks for providing this list Luponator.

Would you mind adding these 3 to it:

Combat rank not displaying properly:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...Not-Displaying-Properly?p=4716984#post4716984

FAS and FDS cockpits replaced with the FGS cockpit:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/302337-FAS-FDS-canopy-replaced-by-FGS-canopy

SRV not refueling or repairing anymore:
- https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/305189-What-happened-to-SRV-s?p=4736518

I've heard no mention from FD on these issues since they were reported.
 
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