Deception and Horizons as a gift to everyone?

[PaulieWotsit]

How? It's past June. He and his friend have left.

Awww but we miss him and his fwend

 

[Borko]

Awww but we miss him and his fwend

No we don't.


Ignoring the sarcasm because funny.

 

[stereoBear]

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[Borko]

 

[metatheurgist]

Easy fix, don't buy Odyssey when it comes out, you'll get it free in however long and then you can come here and crow about how you got it for free and call everyone else a sucker.

 

[Speedcuffs]

If FDev give me the Galnet Anaconda paintjob on my PC account, I'll call the lawyers off and we'll say no more.

 

[Patrick_68000]

No. they don't need to pay for anything on release, they get it all straight up.

Yes and they are 4 years early.

 

[Patrick_68000]

No, I prefer the crappy instant one for kids with added sugar and vitamins or something that can be drink after you pour milk right out of the fridge.

You have a sense of humor

 

[ocflyer]

The game is cheap as it is. Why the rage?

 

[Patrick_68000]

Just unlucky timing. I bought ED and Horizons for myself (£20 + £20) and ED for my brother (£20), two days later ED went on steam sale for £5.99. That was one day after learning Horizons would be bundled free on the 27th Oct.

Now maybe analyze in depth what you are going to do with Odyssey ?

 

[Kamiyoda]

As a gift for everyone they should remove the Type 10 from the game

 

[Patrick_68000]

Probably George Clooney, when he did those crappy Nespresso adverts....

Fortunately the coffee is not too bad.

This compensates.

 

[Gibbon]

As a gift for everyone they should remove the Type 10 from the game

Never, makes a great mining ship

 

[Patrick_68000]

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A good way to kill bacteria and bad breath here.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Why are there people complaining ?

Those who paid for ED, and later for Horizons, will still have to pay for Odyssey.

These people have the immense satisfaction of having worked hard to get something.

Those who have everything for free do not have the same feeling of valorization.

 

[Viajero]

Bad Business Precedent.....

Although I understand Frontier's need to unify the Elite code base and drop the base game by moving everyone to Horizon's, BUT, I paid full price for this DLC.

Now, everyone will get what I paid a premium to have, for free, so that Frontier can release another DLC whioh most of us will pay for, so that in four years, Frontier can give it away for free, to again consolidate the code base into one version and do it all over again. I suppose the free Horizons will also give everyone the exclusive Cobra IV too. This all leaves a bad taste in my mouth and I now question any need to buy another DLC for this game from Frontier. It may be a good move for code development of a product, but it sets a bad business precedent for paid DLC's. Why would anyone now buy Odyssey if they know that in four years time, they will get it for free just before a new DLC is released?

What a deal for those who don't pay for DLC's. Just wait for awhile, no need to spend your hard earned cash and when Frontier updates the code for a new DLC, you will get the previous one for free, possibly with all the perks it contained. So, unless Frontier offers those who paid for Horizon's some sort of exclusive discount on Odyssey, which I think would be not only fair, but required, I don't see any reason to buy another DLC for this game. Frontier, does customer loyalty mean anything to you? There are those who say they feel slighted in not receiving their kick-starter rewards. Are you going to set bad business precedent by giving away DLC's most others paid for? Are you going to compensate those who did pay for the Horizon's DLC with a discount on Odyssey?

I guess paid customer loyalty is a thing of the past. You "give away for free" something of game significance to those who paid you nothing for it. Yet those who paid you real money for this game DLC get/got nothing. As a paying customer, name one thing of significance in this game you gave me for free?

Don't you see how this sets a bad business precedent.

Have not been able to read the whole thread so apologies if already clarified: Many multi DLC franchises have worked this way since time immemorial. One of the classic examples is the World of Warcraft franchise, which during many, many years has always integrated older DLC with the main game at no cost as newer DLC came to the market.

The rational for it is solid and well established. Most software depreciates with time inevitably (Elite 1984 anyone? ). In general and with a few exceptions, the price someone pays for content allows him/her to play it right away, whereas someone waiting for the content to become significantly cheaper, or free, may not be able to play it for several years. This is the same rational that applies to game prices reducing gradually over time or to more frequent and aggressive sales periods (for which I do not recall seeing many similar complaints about).

World of Warcraft - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Blizzard routinely applies older expansions to all accounts as new expansions are released. On June 28, 2011, The Burning Crusade expansion was automatically applied to all previous Warcraft accounts at no cost. On September 19, 2012, the same thing was done with the Wrath of the Lich King expansion,[67] and on October 15, 2013 the Cataclysm expansion was also applied.[68] On October 15, 2014, Mists of Pandaria was applied to all accounts following the release of Warlords.[69] On May 17, 2016, Warlords of Draenor was applied to all accounts to coincide with the release of the Warcraft movie that gives a 30-day trial of the game.[70] All The Burning Crusade, Wrath of the Lich King, Cataclysm, Mists of Pandaria and Warlords of Draenor content is now effectively part of the original game, with all new World of Warcraft accounts automatically including these expansions upon creation.[67] As of the pre-patch release of Battle for Azeroth in July 2018, all expansions up to Legion are included in the base game.[71]

Etc

 

[Jukelo]

A significant portion of the games I play are from the 90s. Imagine my rage when I discovered GoG.com sells them for 5€ when a single game would cost my dear mother 2-400 French francs 20 years ago!

 

[Deleted member 38366]

Well...

I saw that all Horizons owners were getting some worthless Paintjob cosmetics as an apology (official line labels that as a "thank you").

Was already wondering how much fallout that move would cause.

I also understand the benefits of retiring an entire branch before Odyssey adds another.

IMHO :
Such a big move requires more effort to redeem and go down better for those that paid for Horizons.

A unique Ship or a useful Module would be better.
Even a C6 Guardian FSD Booster unlocked as an exclusive quickfix likely would work.

 

[Ian Doncaster]

Are there that many people still only on the base release???

If 95% of E: D players bought Horizons, this thread is dead.

Frontier's financial reports suggest about 50% of accounts also bought Horizons ... but presumably there's quite a strong bias in that towards people who still play the game, and against those who bought it, flew around for ten hours three years ago, decided it wasn't their sort of thing, and won't even notice they now have Horizons too.

 

[Bigmaec]

Well...

I saw that all Horizons owners were getting some worthless Paintjob cosmetics as an apology (official line labels that as as "thank you").

Was already wondering how much fallout that move would cause.

I also understand the benefits of retiring an entire branch before Odyssey adds another.

IMHO :
Such a big move requires more effort to redeem and go down better for those that paid for Horizons.

A unique Ship or a useful Module would be better.
Even a C6 Guardian FSD Booster unlocked as an exclusive quickfix likely would work.

Sarcasm, right? Please, let this be sarcasm...
An unique ship or module. Never happened before.
What could go wrong?