Defending against Murder Monkeys and other BGS attacks: Best Current Thinking

Jane Turner

Volunteer Moderator
not shutting it down, but a balancing of it as it has a grossly negative effect on the Bgs compared to anything used to counter it.

I'd certainly not want to see removed as a legitimate way to affect the BGS. I would like to see it tuned down to a point where it wasn't more effective to win eg a war, by murdering authority as opposed to fighting in the CZs, but equally effective.
 
Lockdown effectively prevents all non-murder negative activity against the controlling faction, whilst allowing bounty hunting and exploration data as positive BGS levers for the station owner.

while sitting idle in a systems normal space you will spawn missions from the local factions. this is an effective way to turn in missions to a station where you have anonymous protocol and are unable to get new missions from the mission board. i have not tried this in lockdown systems but i would think the mechanic works the same since in lockdown you can only turn in existing missions.

the main problem is the randomness of the missions, though i have found if you are allied with a faction you will get more missions from that faction and of course better missions. i will sometimes park in normal space over night and come back in the morning to about 2 dozen messages for missions, a make shift mission board i can pick and choose from.

so there may be ways around this.
 
The faction that the clean ship belongs to is the one that gets the influence hit, as far as is known

but only if the clean ship is of a faction in the local system correct? otherwise its just a crime/murder ding against the controlling faction correct?

that is if a clean ship from a faction not in the local system is attacked/killed that faction would not suffer an influence hit or will it?
 
but only if the clean ship is of a faction in the local system correct? otherwise its just a crime/murder ding against the controlling faction correct?

that is if a clean ship from a faction not in the local system is attacked/killed that faction would not suffer an influence hit or will it?

As far as I can tell if you kill a ship from a faction external to the current system (i.e. it has no faction locally) it counts towards civil unrest to the local dominant faction. It also makes you wanted in both local and that other factions territory, if they hold any, and lowers rep accordingly too.

External faction ships are only useful when luring sec ships to fight anyway. In low population / spread out systems it takes a long time (if at all) to see the correct faction type. Thus, its easier to interdict passers by to get security to pop up.

OT:

If you want to make murder less effective but still keep it fun, up the cost of hot modules and bounties. I had to burn a Corvette the other day and pick a lot of body parts out of my ships modules, and it was quite expensive (to pay my dues, I'd have to fork out half my total credit balance-fat chance!). Now I use smaller, less expensive ships that are slower to rack up kills (and are more fun at the same time). BGS murder benefits are front loaded in that you can kill quite happily but eventually you have to pay. If the 'pay' part came much earlier (and the ceiling for ATR was lower) you might put even the most hardened BGS sculptors from using large farming vehicles and swap to smaller ones, or at least make it so burn ships can't use engineering (as A and B grade modules are expensive).
 
How about murder in an anarchy system?
I could murder ships of all kinds of factions, controlling faction, local factions, foreign factions, at my leasure without punishment. With respect to BGS, it would only affect the respective faction of my victim?
And nobody cares and no BGS impact when I kill authority ships not affiliated with any local faction?
 
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Jane Turner

Volunteer Moderator
How about murder in an anarchy system?
I could murder ships of all kinds of factions, controlling faction, local factions, foreign factions, at my leasure without punishment. With respect to BGS, it would only affect the respective faction of my victim?
And nobody cares and no BGS impact when I kill authority ships not affiliated with any local faction?

There are mixed reports - but I believe there is no effect if there is no bounty issued. We don't operate in anrachies so I have no 1st hand information.
 
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