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Depending on their political stances: Clinton or Trump?

  • Clinton

    Votes: 101 46.1%
  • Trump

    Votes: 48 21.9%
  • None of both

    Votes: 70 32.0%

  • Total voters
    219
  • Poll closed .
WE THE PEOPLE!

It's time to drain the swamp, what a night, what a night, the world just became a little bit better in my point of view.

Time for the UK to get out of the EU, and I would guess that after this election things will move a bit faster.
 
At some point they have to realise at its core this is about class warfare and we are sick of losing.

the us had better worry then, if the world is going down the "have nots" revolting against "haves", remember that the US represents 5% of the worlds population but has 25% of the worlds wealth.
 
That's what happens folks when people promote a corrupt crook like Clinton over someone like Sanders.

People are getting sick and tired of corrupt profiteering warmongering centrists like Tony Blair, Sarkozy and the like, while their wages fall and houses and rents get more expensive every year.

The people who denied Sanders should hang their heads in shame today as they guaranteed this result.

You're so right my friend, you're sooooo right.

The bell of liberty are still ringing, 1776 2.0 without one shot being fired!
 
WE THE PEOPLE!

It's time to drain the swamp, what a night, what a night, the world just became a little bit better in my point of view.

Time for the UK to get out of the EU, and I would guess that after this election things will move a bit faster.
one of the Leave arguments was that NATO was the main guarantor of security in Europe, so the EU was irrelevant security wise.

Trump has been very critical of America's involvement with NATO.

The "outside the EU" world just got a but more uncertain.
 
the us had better worry then, if the world is going down the "have nots" revolting against "haves", remember that the US represents 5% of the worlds population but has 25% of the worlds wealth.

It's worse than that. It seems that 0.00000000001% of the population can cry and moan about their offspring being sacked from an employer , and then robbing at gunpoint their place of previous employment , and being fatally shot during that wonderful idea - and then feel entitled to suing that place of employment for urm, erm, I'm really not sure.
 
QUOTE=Lysander lysan;4753819]You're so right my friend, you're sooooo right.

The bell of liberty are still ringing, 1776 2.0 without one shot being fired![/QUOTE]


I don't want to see the EU fall apart, I just think it needs to root out widespread corruption and prove to people it's worth saving.

The alternative will be chaos for many years, Trump and Brexit should be enough warning.
 
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I'm a bit confused that apperently Trump, a Billionare who doesn't pay taxes, is now somehow supposed to be the man for the little people. How does that work? :S
 
I'm a bit confused that apperently Trump, a Billionare who doesn't pay taxes, is now somehow supposed to be the man for the little people. How does that work? :S

Well the problem is that there is more and more little people and a global oligarchies which is enriched with indecency. The little people have nothing more to lose, they have nothing anyway
 
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One thing that this election has rammed home for me, is that I will NEVER again pay ANY attention to election polls.

We've seen it here in Europe and now in the States.

The media have no clue what the people want.
 
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I'm a bit confused that apperently Trump, a Billionare who doesn't pay taxes, is now somehow supposed to be the man for the little people. How does that work? :S

He is against unfettered free trade NAFTA/TPP etc which has destroyed the industrial base in much of the western world now even allowing companies to sue governments for evil things like raising the minimum wage etc.

He is also not looking to pursue an expensive proxy war with Russia which would likely cost Trillions. The man for the little people was Sanders, but he got shafted by the Clinton Mafia. Trump is not an ideal candidate, but the alternative was far worse.
 
One thing that this election has rammed home for me, is that I will NEVER again pay ANY attention to election polls.

We've seen it here in Europe and now in the States.

The media have no clue what the people want.

They know ... but they are trying to influence the people (as do the policies and the artists and the technocrats) by disclosing of lies
 
One thing that this election has rammed home for me, is that I will NEVER again pay ANY attention to election polls.

We've seen it here in Europe and now in the States.

The media have no clue what the people want.

Indeed - it's almost as if polls are either utterly useless or rigged, or both.
 
Who is WE?
Anyone not a part of the kept class and their minions. In short, anyone with the power to sidestep the vote with money and power ala citizens united style constitutes the them that wage war against the rest of us. Are you really pretending this isn't about class warfare? Under Hillary, after the TPP, we would be as representative a republic as the UK is a monarchy. Democracy is not just symbolic and it's time the centralised power and it's constituents got the message.
 
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Who is WE?

Wealthy white westerners basking in the glow of globalization, using internet, owning advanced computers and having a hospital no more than 20 minutes away.

You know, the people who complain about being downtrodden masses and hating immigrants from third world countries looking for a better life.
 
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