detention centre: ok for BOUNTIES, too much for only FINES.

I’ve heard you get the prison ship treatment when blown up with a fine, from those days where bugged AX CZs persisted in Thargoid alerts, which is so stupidly Elite(in universe) that it amuses me.

But it’s also stupid in regards to game mechanic. And not in a funny way. Haven’t been on the receiving end of this, though…
 
Even worse; You are fighting for the faction that controls a station and are hostile to their opposition, and when you leave the game pre tick on logging back in find that the war has ended and control of the station has changed to the faction that you are hostile to. I got DEPORTED to the jail immediately!

Steve
 
Can't hand yourself in for a fine, but can hand yourself in for a bounty in which case you'll also pay off your local fines at the same time. If blown up with just a fine, you go to prison and pay off the fines. Notoriety makes fines almost as impactful as bounties, and actually harder to get rid of - obtaining a bounty is a valid tactic that can be used to pay off your fines.

In conclusion, I both want the Punishment system to be the key feature rework because it's a mess that achieves none of its goals; and am also immensely fearful of them ever touching it lest the entire system collapse and be replaced with something infinitely more horrifying.
 
Is it notoriety that makes a difference for fine jail? I've got about $1M of outstanding fines but haven't been sent to the hoosegow recently outside of a station rammer at Jameson (which was a weird incident in itself since I could have sworn I kept my speed under 100).
 
Don't click "hand yourself in" ...
Which is not an intuitive interaction whatsoever. If the game presents you with the option, nobody as a new player is going to think "oh, the game is set up in such a way that this is definitely a trick and bad option."
 
Which is not an intuitive interaction whatsoever. If the game presents you with the option, nobody as a new player is going to think "oh, the game is set up in such a way that this is definitely a trick and bad option."

As stated above, I was wrong about that. I even checked last night (now I have 2 fines in my stats :( ) and no you can't hand yourself in for just fines.
 
I don't believe notoriety has any criminal implications. It seems to only serve as a watchdog against fine or bounty payoff so you cannot continue running mission board missions if you've incurred any fines or bounties in that system (non anarchy). Notoriety is reputation, but your reputation with the factions doesn't change. It's a broken system with almost zero rationale or reason.
 
I don't believe notoriety has any criminal implications. It seems to only serve as a watchdog against fine or bounty payoff so you cannot continue running mission board missions if you've incurred any fines or bounties in that system (non anarchy). Notoriety is reputation, but your reputation with the factions doesn't change. It's a broken system with almost zero rationale or reason.
the funniest thing is since odyssey launched it blocks paying fines (which it doesn't in legacy) which I'm pretty sure is a bug (but lol, lmao at expecting the tracker to do anything) but you can still hand yourself in for bounties.

So the easiest way to get rid of a fine when you have notoriety is to land at an odyssey base for that faction, zap the first guy you lay eyes on, then get back in your ship and hand yourself in.

About the only thing about it that still works in any meaningful measure is the part about scaling bounties up if you go on a mass murder spree.
 
the funniest thing is since odyssey launched it blocks paying fines (which it doesn't in legacy) which I'm pretty sure is a bug (but lol, lmao at expecting the tracker to do anything) but you can still hand yourself in for bounties.

So the easiest way to get rid of a fine when you have notoriety is to land at an odyssey base for that faction, zap the first guy you lay eyes on, then get back in your ship and hand yourself in.

About the only thing about it that still works in any meaningful measure is the part about scaling bounties up if you go on a mass murder spree.
I seemed to recall I could hop over a few systems and pay off fines/bounties at the IF. Not now, they say my notoriety is too high. Then again, I cannot recall if that payoff was just because I wasn't notorious, just couldn't pay off in a system where I was wanted.

Turning yourself in works for releasing mission boards and services, just make sure you have a ship that has some jump range. I use a little island hopper to raid but if I am going to turn myself in, I use the Dbx. I've found on foot mission boards to be so similar (other than settlement repower missions) that I don't see a benefit of being in one system vs the other, and the factions don't seem to treat me any better or worse, allied or not. The offerings are what they are. Landing pad missions though, those are obviously going have improved payouts as you gain reputation.
 
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