Development Update 1 - June

Lysette

Lysette
Red Anders said:
I understand perfectly - definitions don't apply when they don't suit you. We'd already resolved it. Also, please stop telling me when I'm allowed to be insulted thanks - I thought that was one thing that younger people today had finally started to understand a little better than many of my generation do.
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seriously - 65 being middle aged?- in what universe is this - most of them are dead 15 years later - so what kind of "middle" is this then?- 65 years and 15 years being equal?- just get real.
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
Lysette said:
From your point of view maybe - from my point of view there is not much to play at all. But i see it from the EVE perspective, where I have always something to do and have a hard time logging out - whereas in ED I have a hard time wanting to even stay in the game for longer than 2 hours, because it is so lackluster and repetitive.
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Each to their own. It's an objective fact that it's a sandbox though, and has repeatedly been stated to be so. Same for simulator. And plenty of us play 6-8 hours per day and have a hard time logging off. IF EVE is to your taste, play EVE. Personally, that's not my cup of tea but I don't go on EVE forums and moan about that because it is a subjective taste of mine.
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
Red Anders said:
I have gamed constantly throughout the period between the release of the original Elite and today and amazingly enough, it does take a bit more to impress me these days than it did back in the 80s, on account of the fact my washing machine has more processing power than home computers did back then. This idea that we're a bunch of doddering old geezers who are happy with the kind of games that we played back when 8 bit computers were all the rage is nonsense. Don't confuse loud voices shouting at clouds on the forum with the wider player base of the game.
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Fact is, early adopters and adventurous PC users then are often early adopters and adventurous PC users now, whatever years they have on the clock. Just as young 'uns are not all playing Nintendo Switch.
 

Red Anders

Red Anders
Lysette said:
seriously - 65 being middle aged?- in what universe is this - most of them are dead 15 years later - so what kind of "middle" is this then?- 65 years and 15 years being equal?- just get real.
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Why are you haranguing me about it, I didn't write it?

However since you seem to be struggling with this as a concept, the 'middle' in middle aged usually refers to middle life and I suspect the problem you are having here is not appreciating the fact that it's seen as a pretty big chunk of the middle, starting after young adulthood and ending prior to your fabled 'elderly' years. I've honestly never met anybody in my life who would seriously apply the term 'elderly' to the kind of age ranges you're using here.
For a start, I don't know anybody who is younger than retirement age who wouldn't raise an eyebrow at being referred to as elderly.
 

Lysette

Lysette
Frankymole said:
Each to their own. It's an objective fact that it's a sandbox though, and has repeatedly been stated to be so. Same for simulator. And plenty of us play 6-8 hours per day and have a hard time logging off. IF EVE is to your taste, play EVE. Personally, that's not my cup of tea but I don't go on EVE forums and moan about that because it is a subjective taste of mine.
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i bough the game and I bought Horizon where it was still an extra sold entity - so I'm a customer and have a right to complain here and be unhappy with the game's development. Especially when FDev is up to mess up EDH as well with their new technology, which isn't working properly. And then there is this awful lighting and the lack of care FDev gives to ED. These are all valid reasons to be on this forum and express my displeasure and look for possible reasons.
 

Lysette

Lysette
Red Anders said:
Why are you haranguing me about it, I didn't write it?

However since you seem to be struggling with this as a concept, the 'middle' in middle aged usually refers to middle life and I suspect the problem you are having here is not appreciating the fact that it's seen as a pretty big chunk of the middle, starting after young adulthood and ending prior to your fabled 'elderly' years. I've honestly never met anybody in my life who would seriously apply the term 'elderly' to the kind of age ranges you're using here.
For a start, I don't know anybody who is younger than retirement age who wouldn't raise an eyebrow at being referred to as elderly.
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Wait a few years - 50 is where the body starts to accumulate failures - you will see what's it about in a short while. Those are biologically the years of change to older age.
 

Bronson [BBfA]

Bronson [BBfA]
Lysette said:
i bough the game and I bought Horizon where it was still an extra sold entity - so I'm a customer and have a right to complain here and be unhappy with the game's development. Especially when FDev is up to mess up EDH as well with their new technology, which isn't working properly. And then there is this awful lighting and the lack of care FDev gives to ED. These are all valid reasons to be on this forum and express my displeasure and look for possible reasons.
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Then stick with it and stop talking about generations.
 

MacIntoc

MacIntoc
ObiW said:
he lighting is still very inconsistent (too bright in one place, too dark elsewhere) so it seems they try to address each symptom individually, even though there seems to be something fundamentally wrong with the renderer.
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Yes, pipeline renderings are not homogeneous. They have to rework them one by one.
 

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beatwaster said:
Without constant monitoring and updating the documentation, these three reasons you named are enough for 150% to make a dog's poo out of any project in 3 years of absence of "deep work" with it.
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I've seen it first hand after working on certain aspects of global projects for over a decade - that does yield a fair bit of experience and foresight of what can go wrong - taken over by a team of inexperienced colleagues and the result was predictable.
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
Lysette said:
Let's just settle this now, Red - you don't feel old and 50 isn't old - even it is past midlife - given that male persons have a life expectancy of less than 82 years. So half of their life is gone when they pass the age of 41. They are still fit and so, but they are in the 2nd half of their lives. This shouldn't insult you in any way, it is just a fact - we don't live up to 130 years old, so to see 65 as still being middle aged is stretching it. Being in one's 40s is middle aged - just seen from life expectancy, it's realistic to see it this way.
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There isn't 40 years of being young, 1 year of middle age, then 41 years of being old... try dividing it into thirds. Young = age 0 to 27, middle-aged =27 to 54. Old = 55+ :D
 

Lysette

Lysette
ObiW said:
I've seen it first hand after working on certain aspects of global projects for over a decade - that does yield a fair bit of experience and foresight of what can go wrong - taken over by a team of inexperienced colleagues and the result was predictable.
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this and they might have a different approach to it as well and be unhappy having to work with something they deem outdated. This even happens with own projects, if they haven't been touched for a longer time and need to be upgraded - i see this with projects we have done, years later one has a different approach and working with "old stuff" is interesting to see, what i thought about it in the past, but now I'm on a different line of thought and it might be cumbersome to continue with a "project of the past" and it is often better, to create a new virtual machine which can do the job better and suits the current line of thought.
 

Frankymole

Frankymole
I don't think many people in their late 20s, or their 30s, count themslves as middle-aged though (but some seem to be infantile and others old before their time). 60 is the new 40? Or as Georgio Moroder's song puts it, 74 is the new 24...
 

Salonica

Salonica
tomimt said:
While the state of Odyssey is bad, that doesn't take away the developers right to free time. They are human, not your slaves.
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It's up to the company to manage their developers and their time off, nothing to do with me. However, I do expect a company to put in every possible effort to deliver on teir commitments.
 
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