Yeah because true "explorers" are a special breed indeed.He should indeed have used "tourist" instead of "non-explorer"
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I can't agree with that. There were older people who were particularly acidic with FDev throughout alpha and the first 2-3 weeks after
Sorry, i don't understand spoken english well enought to properly understand this kind of vids :-/
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The proponents of Impending Doom have been predicting the coming of "Doom™" since before the game even released. Still waiting for them to get something right!
And I can't "officially" infer anything, not being employed by FD.
I think sometimes though, its not doom but a lingering death that gets people. ED is not doomed, but its also not healthy either.
That's basically as well the 2nd part of the video - people moved on playing NMS and SC, where they have fun - still keeping an eye on ED, but playing the other games. Player numbers of ED are going down, streamers moving on as well. The winner of all of this is NMS and to a certain degree as well SC.
Yeah, a painfully slow period of fading away - no one wants this to happen, but it looks much like it unfortunately.
Honestly, people who are upset about "lies, performance, slow progress and lack of transparency" and then play SC deserve to be unhappy...
This is sadly trueElite Dangerous: Entropy.
Rather than future proof the game with hard choices now, FD seem to keep on making the wrong choices and chasing the wrong people.Deleted member 182079
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Certainly when it comes to Horizons - it's on borrowed time until it eventually inherits Odyssey's 'different' feel and look, for better or (in my opinion) worse.
You misunderstand and are consequently drawing incorrect conclusions. We old hands 'got' elite because of the game style, sandbox, alt life, not goal driven. Somewhere to bug off to and do your thing, no pressure, no clock counting down. And believe it or not there are young people who enjoy that style of play as well and for us ED offers loads more than Elite ever did. Graphically it is stunning, you can still cruise off and do your own thing and there are many more things to do now. If your thing is to get the adrenaline pumping you can do a bit of PvP and if that's too exciting try battling Thargoids. Like FPS? we got Odyssey now. Core and crevice mining is very entertaining but if you just want the bucks go laser mining. Prefer something more laid back, try trading or even more laid back, exploring. Engineering has added a whole new dimension to building ships, not everyones cup of tea but I love it, keeps me absorbed for hours. Then there's fleet carriers, guardian puzzles, group play in squadrons and power play. Competitive players moan about the lack of content and the GRIND but for us more chilled types it's a self guided adventure. In short we are not all the same and you shouldn't make the assumption that everyone in the same demographic as you is like you and that, therefore, you speak for them.
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Honestly, I don't understand that way of thinking either - by all means try NMS or X4 (I own both and can recommend both, although neither scratches the Elite itch in the same way) but I will never ever give Roberts even a single dime, just out of principle. It's weird seeing so many people flocking towards SC despite all the crap they've pulled and seemingly are still pulling.
What frustrates me (which you already know but I'm going to say it anyway because it makes me feel better
) is that FD have a knack for fiddling with things that, do we really need? I salivate at the thought of FD putting two years of tweaks and updates into the current game instead, making it 'complete' going forwards.Is all this "elderly-bashing" about youngsters (without history) not liking "older players" that actually remembers what FD told us this game was going to be about?
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No worries just let it all out, I'm doing the same even though it's akin to screaming into the voidWhat frustrates me (which you already know but I'm going to say it anyway because it makes me feel better
I keep getting the impression that their entire dev team got replaced by a more junior/less experienced bunch, the lack of attention to detail and little inconsistencies combined with ill-thought out design (just one more example, when I tried some RES combat yesterday I noticed the shield % indicator of NPC ships also moves around, someone designed it that way, and someone else approved it to go into the live version, I would love to hear their view of why they thought that was a good idea).
Sometimes I wonder if they're putting these things in out of spite, or because they're just doing it to farm salt. It's really weird and difficult to follow their thought process (unless they're in headless chicken mode but they need to snap out of it if that's the case).
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It's the "I am angry at the current government so I will now vote for the psychopathic criminal clown" mentality.
It is fun to see people Obsidian Ant contribute to that. He is the 'mirror' type streamer who never gives his own opinion but always repeats what the dominant vibe is in the community. ED fans angry? He is angry. ED fans happy? He is happy. It seems normal until you see his streams about other games. If ED fans are angry about X and SC fans are okay with the same thing in SC, he will be angry about it in his ED streams yet be "cautiously optimistic it will be fixed soon" in SC.
Someone watching his streams will conclude SC runs better, progresses faster, has more content and less controversy than ED. Not because it's true, not because he thinks it's true, but because he will say whatever his viewers want to hear.
Ignoring SC, people should try X4 and NMS whether they are happy with ED or not. They are both cool games with tons of value for money, no need to stick to only one game (other than lack of time).
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I do suspect "junior devs scrambling to appease a management unable to accept their own mistakes."No worries just let it all out, I'm doing the same even though it's akin to screaming into the void
I keep getting the impression that their entire dev team got replaced by a more junior/less experienced bunch, the lack of attention and little inconsistencies combined with ill-thought out design (just one more example, when I tried some RES combat yesterday I noticed the shield % indicator of NPC ships also moves around, someone designed it hat way, and someone else approved it to go into the live version, I would love to hear their view of why they thought that was a good idea).
Sometimes I wonder if they're putting these things in out of spite, or because they're just doing it to farm salt. It's really weird and difficult to follow their thought process (unless they're in headless chicken mode but they need to snap out of it if that's the case).
Elite Dangerous: Catharsis looks a lot better than Elite Dangerous: Exodus, which is where we risk heading if FDev don't get a handle on the bugs and performance issues in EDO.What frustrates me (which you already know but I'm going to say it anyway because it makes me feel better
FDev need to seriously consider if the search for new customers is worth the risk of losing existing, loyal ones who have and would continue to keep topping up their coffers with ARX purchases.
The deficit of some make the benefit of the others.
Why wouldn't the choice to focus on performance to benefit both console and PC be a wise choice ?This is sadly true