DLC18 discussion and predictions

How about we get rid of every single animal people complain about in the DLCs and see how that turns out. No Dama gazelle, no Saiga, no black rhino, etc. 😁
There are people who complain about the black rhino?

I actually wouldn't be surprised if some of these more "obvious" picks just get into the base game for a sequel (e.g., polar bear, black rhino, the camel) now that they know people are willing to pay for deep-cuts in DLC.
 
How about we get rid of every single animal people complain about in the DLCs and see how that turns out. No Dama gazelle, no Saiga, no black rhino, etc. 😁
Black rhino is a stunning addition. Lets remove Dama Gazelle, Cuvier's Dwarf Caiman, Saiga, Himalayan Brown Bear, Llama, Arctic Wolf, Baird's Tapir and replace it with lowland or South American, Black Wildebeest, Formosan Black Bear, Proboscis Monkey, Quokka, Striped Skunk, Springbok.
 
There are people who complain about the black rhino?

I actually wouldn't be surprised if some of these more "obvious" picks just get into the base game for a sequel (e.g., polar bear, black rhino, the camel) now that they know people are willing to pay for deep-cuts in DLC.
I mean complaining is a strong word but i had near zero desire for it and its definetly my least favorite of the pack
 
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, next year is probably JWE3,
Not probably, it was already directly confirmed by Frontier themselves that the new Jurassic game was going to be the CMS game being released in the next FY.

Also I see there's no way frontier will miss the opportunity to add Planet Aquarium.
If anything the fact that water parks did not come as a separate game is further confirmation that it's unlikely that Frontier is going to go for an entirely separate aquarium game instead of adding it to the sequel of Planet Zoo. Why would Frontier even go for a separate game? It doesn't make sense for them to do so.

First reason is the most obvious one of all, your current Planet Zoo audience for the very most part wants aquariums to be added to the game instead of it being a separate game where they can combine both. So why would you want to risk upsetting a group of people you want to come back for your next game?

Second of all, unlike with zoo, there are already a bunch of major competitors on the aquarium game market. You have Megaquaruim, Aquarist, Aquarium Designer, etc. There's already plenty of games out there for people who want to design their own digital aquariums (from a single tank to a full fledged aquarium) with a lot of deep management that Frontier's CSM usually don't tend to have. So again, why go for the risk here?

The safest financial bet here is to make aquariums a major selling point to a Planet Zoo sequel. Yes, it will be simplified in concept and it will not be to the level of deep management that the other aquarium games have; but it will have the rather unique selling point of it being in a very creative game together with full fledged zoos. And that's a part of a market that hasn't been properly targeted in years, so that's another win for Frontier.

Frontier is going to play it safe for the coming years, they communicated that very clearly. That's the best bet for them right now, and that means that their choices will reflect that. I wouldn't count on a Planet Aquarium game if I were you because of that.

We literally didn't need a second African Rhino...
You can literally discuss this till the end of time, but what "the game needs" is only objective based on your own subjective criteria. It's so incredibly pointless to argue whether or not an animal is needed.

Some people want as many visually different kind of animals as possible, other people want as many common zoo animals as possible (me), other people want as many subspecies as possible, etc. etc. We all have our own criteria that makes us judge whether or not an animal was needed. That's fine. I'm sure your criteria justify your lack of a need for a black rhinoceros just as much as my criteria do justify the need for one. That's all good and all fine.

But to go over the same "we didn't need animal x" argument over and over again (talking in general, not you specifically) is one of the most tiring things in this community.
 
You can literally discuss this till the end of time, but what "the game needs" is only objective based on your own subjective criteria. It's so incredibly pointless to argue whether or not an animal is needed.

Some people want as many visually different kind of animals as possible, other people want as many common zoo animals as possible (me), other people want as many subspecies as possible, etc. etc. We all have our own criteria that makes us judge whether or not an animal was needed. That's fine. I'm sure your criteria justify your lack of a need for a black rhinoceros just as much as my criteria do justify the need for one. That's all good and all fine.

But to go over the same "we didn't need animal x" argument over and over again (talking in general, not you specifically) is one of the most tiring things in this community.
Actually the animal choices in this game is objective, for it’s based on my rule. I, as the main character of the universe whose opinion is never ever wrong, clearly make the most objectively based decisions for Planet Zoo.

So the answer is clear, as the sole objective voice for PZ, do say that Frontier must add all Flamingo species into the game. No one can argue against me as I am clearly never wrong. Planet Zoo needs every flamingo species.

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(just in case I’m gonna put this here that I am trying to mess around, obviously my opinion is subjective just like everyone else)
 
Actually the animal choices in this game is objective, for it’s based on my rule. I, as the main character of the universe whose opinion is never ever wrong, clearly make the most objectively based decisions for Planet Zoo.

So the answer is clear, as the sole objective voice for PZ, do say that Frontier must add all Flamingo species into the game. No one can argue against me as I am clearly never wrong. Planet Zoo needs every flamingo species.

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(just in case I’m gonna put this here that I am trying to mess around, obviously my opinion is subjective just like everyone else)
chilean, andean, puna, and lesser will be shot and killed by a rocket launcher and american flamingo will be added
 
I think when people see the improvements/tools provided by Planet Coaster 2 people will get on-board pretty quickly. All the new QoL improvements from PC2 plus whatever else gets developed in the interim, birds and/or aquatics, etc.

The sequel will do just fine.


That's not how it works. It varies from company to company. If you don't believe me, hopefully you'll believe Frontier! ;)

"Frontier’s financial year end is 31 May with a half year end date (for interim results) of 30 November."

So each financial year is from June 31st whatever year it is through May 31st the following year.
Thanks for the correction November 27 it us for me then. Still don't see it in 26.
 
I'm ok with no Sumatran or javan rhino, but not including the black rhino (iconic and endangered and very famous african animal) just because we already got the white is just silly. But yeah one of the two should've been in the base game or come as anniversary animal.
 
I mean, how many mammals would we be missing? Which mammals too? And how many birds are we talking about? Does less mammals also mean more reptiles, fish, and other animals?

This might just be me, but I think that could be kind of nice lol.
I personally have only a handful of mammals we currently have to trade for birds
Absolutely non of them for fish. The only fish I want in game are Kois and those as an ambient... thingamagiggy. Forgot how those are called. Those effect things.
 
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I personally have only a handful of mammals we currently have for birds
Absolutely non of them for fish. The only fish I want in game are Kois and those as an ambient... thingamagiggy. Forgot how those are called. Those effect things.
Tbh as much as a bird lover as i am there are just a few Mammals (and a couple of reptiles) i would trade for them:

Skunk for burrowing owl
Saiga for Golden pheasant
Dama gazelle or somalí wild ass (i like both but i don't need any) for secretary bird
Nile lechwe for roseatte spoonbill or mandarín duck
Asían water monitor for Scarlet ibis or Victoria crowned pigeon
Cuviers dwarf caimán for any pelican

Half the barnyard animal pack for a duck and turkey/Guineafow
 
Tbh as much as a bird lover as i am there are just a few Mammals (and a couple of reptiles) i would trade for them:

Skunk for burrowing owl
Saiga for Golden pheasant
Dama gazelle or somalí wild ass (i like both but i don't need any) for secretary bird
Nile lechwe for roseatte spoonbill or mandarín duck
Asían water monitor for Scarlet ibis or Victoria crowned pigeon
Cuviers dwarf caimán for any pelican

Half the barnyard animal pack for a duck and turkey/Guineafow
Leave my skunk alone, please ☹️ I happily part with the rest you mentioned.
 
I thought the next cms games were 2025 and 2026, was it actually 2027?
it was 2026 they said 3 over the next 3 years so there is no gap
It's FY25, FY26, and FY27.

FY25 = June 2024 - May 2025
FY26 = June 2025 - May 2026
FY27 = June 2026 - May 2027

So there's a range there.
This is definetley where all the confusion is coming from
my guess is
25 is PC 2
26 is JWE3
27 is PZ2
Nah. FY26 is locked in for JWE2. And they're going to want to give a bit more breathing room between ending PZ development and a sequel.
they were talking calendar year not financial year JWE3 is calendar year 2025
 
Tbh as much as a bird lover as i am there are just a few Mammals (and a couple of reptiles) i would trade for them:

Skunk for burrowing owl
Saiga for Golden pheasant
Dama gazelle or somalí wild ass (i like both but i don't need any) for secretary bird
Nile lechwe for roseatte spoonbill or mandarín duck
Asían water monitor for Scarlet ibis or Victoria crowned pigeon
Cuviers dwarf caimán for any pelican

Half the barnyard animal pack for a duck and turkey/Guineafow
Most of those animals at least add something to the game... if you're going to axe stuff, at least focus on the redundant additions... like the second wildebeest or the second African rhino or the second brown bear... agree with sacrificing the farm animals though...
 
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