Do players still get the entire pack of paint jobs with a purchase? If not then paint jobs just went up about 6 fold.

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With the old system of the Frontier store, in order to get a ship paint job you bought a pack which was about 6 different skins. Now generally that pack would cost about 300 Frontier points or $5.

With this new system one single paint job can cost anywhere from 3250 ARX to 6250 ARX.

5000 ARX is about 5 bucks still. So for the same money you're getting 1/6 of what you would get with the same purchase via Frontier points. In essence everything has become drastically more expensive.

Overall this is a net loss,which I knew it would be because publishers don't do anything for the betterment of the player. Extremely low cap, extremely grindy which creates the illusion of in-game unlocks, while in actuality heavily increasing the price of a skin while drastically decreasing value per dollar or equivalent currency.

In no world is about $4 for one skin equate to a better value than $5 for 6 skins.

This is the same reason that many mobile games have these artificial essentially useless currencies. The average player is going to tolerate earning about 1000 ARX manually, while being incentivised to spend to get the rest that they would need.

I knew it was a suspicious from the beginning when they were not back crediting the numerous years many of us put in the game. How many players are going to realistically save for one single 3250-6250 ARX skin.. with a 400 ARX cap per week?

Overall the system is a huge net loss for gamers. I don't know because I have not bought anything since the update and I don't plan to..

However if the player does not still receive the entire pack then this is most certainly a huge value per dollar/pound downgrade for the gamer. Makes me glad that I got the skins I wanted before it was and even larger rip off than before.

It honestly makes me wish I could opt out of even earning ARX because the drop rate is useless and only is there to facilitate psychological manipulation.
 
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This should be fun, the OP stating that if anyone doesn't hold the same opinion as he does then they are a 'forum dad' or a zealot.

What a wonderful way to offer up a discussion …...
It's not about agreeing with my opinion..posts like mine always attract the zealots riding on their horses they rode in on to defend their own manipulation. The scum always floats to the top, just like a pond.

Same thing people like you do to newer players that are foolish enough to try to post their often valid opinions on this forum. You're all basically dedicated forum harassers.

Deflecting, talk around it all you want it's still deflecting. Until someone tells me that one purchase earns the whole pack as before, then essentially skins have gone up about six times the price.

There's plenty of other threads people like you can go degrade.
 
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I just bought a paintjob for 620ARX, so not sure where you're getting an average of 5K for a paintjob from.

However, I agree with the OP to some extent. If you were to PAY for your ARX, then you generally get less than you used to do.

Ultimately, Frontier lose, because I used to buy skins for my ships. Now I will not. If and when I have sufficient ARX obtained through normal game play, I shall use those instead. So Frontier will make less money out of me than they used to. That's their fault for being greedy and nagging me about the ARX shop in game, and basically being silly.(shrug).

I'll just carry on playing regardless. Are you listening Frontier? I will never, ever pay for ARX... ever, yet I used to buy paintjobs all the time. £3 here.... £3 there.... Now you'll get nothing. Listen to your players.
 
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On topic.

This is the one area of ARX conversation I actually see a point to. How many ARX you get for playing etc I’m not that interested in, they’re freebies and freebies are rarely worth that much.

However, a change in the price and pricing structure of cosmetic items is worthwhile as nothing seems to have been officially mentioned about price movement. Not that it necessarily should of course, but then that leaves us to speculate on what we’re actually paying for any one item.

I’m quite glad to see items previously only sold as packs now available individually, and am willing to some extent to pay slightly more per item for that if it comes in cheaper than buying the old pack with paints I’ll never use (purple from the vibrant pack comes to mind.)

I accept prices always tend to go up but a little light shone on the new pricing structure would be very helpful so we all know where we stand and what has changed.
 
A curious phrase. Were/are they supposed to ride on different horses from those that they rode in on?
Funny for someone so clever you would think you've heard that phrase before "and the horse you rode in on". look it up if you've never heard it that's why I said it that way.
 
I just bought a paintjob for 620ARX, so not sure where you're getting an average of 5K for a paintjob from.

However, I agree with the OP to some extent. If you were to PAY for your ARX, then you generally get less than you used to do.

Ultimately, Frontier lose, because I used to buy skins for my ships. Now I will not. If and when I have sufficient ARX obtained through normal game play, I shall use those instead. So Frontier will make less money out of me than they used to. That's their fault for being greedy and nagging me about the ARX shop in game, and basically being silly.(shrug).

I'll just carry on playing regardless. Are you listening Frontier? I will never, ever pay for ARX... ever, yet I used to buy paintjobs all the time. £3 here.... £3 there.... Now you'll get nothing. Listen to your players.
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As you can see.. that's about the price of one full pack. I say one full pack because even if you bought 5K, unlikely you'll find a skin for the remainder, most skins I see are around that price, that's just a random skin to prove the point. Both cost $5 so, at the very most is 2 for the price of 6. 1/3 to 1/6 the previous value per dollar.
 
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As you can see.. that's about the price of one full pack. I say one full pack because even if you bought 5K, unlikely you'll find a skin for the remainder, most skins I see are around that price, that's just a random skin to prove the point. Both cost $5 so, at the very most is 2 for the price of 6. 1/3 to 1/6 the previous value per dollar.
The crypsis paint jobs were always unpacked.
And now you can get them for free, which is better.
 
It was $5 for paint jobs, and now it's $5 for one paint job?
Is this correct?

Used to be about $5 for 6 paint jobs, now it's about $5 for one paint job 2 at the max oftentimes. At least for a paint job that most people might want to actually buy.

Like the other person said I won't be buying any more because the value per dollar/pound has dropped pretty dramatically.
 
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As you can see.. that's about the price of one full pack. I say one full pack because even if you bought 5K, unlikely you'll find a skin for the remainder, most skins I see are around that price, that's just a random skin to prove the point. Both cost $5 so, at the very most is 2 for the price of 6. 1/3 to 1/6 the previous value per dollar.


I'm not sure what to say.... I just bought one for 620ARX (shrug).


It's just a paintjob... no one sees it most of the time any way. Just don't buy ARX and Frontier will soon get the message. In the meantime, look for the cheaper paintjobs if you really need to pimp your ship.
 
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