Lol. That's a good joke.
Does anyone actually enjoy engineering?
- Thread starter Bill Clement
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There is loads of gameplay elements in the game. That's a fact, not an opinion. What the game is low on is meaningful reasons to do that gameplay unfortunately. Saying that, the current initiative has been a big step in the right direction. Giving us meaningful reasons to do the gameplay in the game.
I have been playing this game for 5 years. So I know as a fact there is gameplay. Just flying the ships is gameplay, working out trade routes is gameplay, doing missions is gameplay, mining is gameplay. There is loads of gameplay in the game.
Most of the gameplay loops are pretty bad, and it's not hard to reason that bad gameplay is practically the same as no gameplay, especially when many of them are hard stopped by bugs.
I might be lucky but I've never been hit by a gameplay bug that I could say actually hard stopped me. I've experienced minor lost progress but that's about the extent of it.
You playing on PS4?
I had to logout during a mining session last night. When I log back in in about 1 hour or so I am gonna get chased by a bunch of pirates. So I am gonna get plenty of gameplay very soon! Not sure what you're on about..... or were you just being negative 'coz that's your thing?
As I say, other opinions are available.
It's not about subjective opinions. It's about facts and that facts are that there is plenty of gameplay in the game. Whether you like the gameplay is down to you. But saying there isn't any is factually incorrect. It's a computer game, we play it, therefore there is gameplay.
For there to be grind, which you keep talking about there has to be gameplay. So all you are doing is contradicting yourself by saying that.
Some good suggestions there, although I do enjoy the process of gathering the mats. But I agree completely that the exchange rate is pretty terrible. Buying mats also seems like a logical suggestion.
Incidentally, it seems to me like grade 5 mission rewards are very scarce now? The trick of trading down doesn't seem nearly as good anymore.
Not that I know of - have you moved to a new system recently? You'll get more rewards from missions once you are allied with a faction.
This examination of semantics is only supporting an irrelevant conclusion, and your irrelevant conclusion is not what "it's" about.
Yes & No.
Yes, I enjoy being able to improve equipment.
No, with exception to getting guardian blue prints, if you can call the guardian stuff engineering (seems very similar to me), its the same as prospecting. Really your just the go - for prospector for the engineers. I guess you can call it engineering, since you use engineers, but for the player that's pretty much as far as it goes so far as engineering. It could be just as easily be called prospecting.
Yes, I enjoy being able to improve equipment.
No, with exception to getting guardian blue prints, if you can call the guardian stuff engineering (seems very similar to me), its the same as prospecting. Really your just the go - for prospector for the engineers. I guess you can call it engineering, since you use engineers, but for the player that's pretty much as far as it goes so far as engineering. It could be just as easily be called prospecting.
Answer = no. No one actually likes Engineer gameplay as designed. But it is what it is. Some folks like vegemite so...Serious question. I don't mean 'do you enjoy having an engineered ship' or 'do you enjoy trying out different engineering modifications', I mean do you actually enjoy the process, the things that you do to get to that engineered module?
Acquiring vast amounts of materials, trading them when (inevitably) you don't have the one you want, at a massive loss, getting a series of lousy rolls that eat all your mats before you complete the mod you're aiming for?
I read posters on here stating that they've engineered whole fleets of ships in next to no time. I believe them- why wouldn't they tell the truth?- but I'm not enjoying anything like the same rate of progress. I decided to fully engineer my mission runner, an 'A' rated Python, back in November. I'd been tinkering with it for a while, I had what I thought was a huge amount of materials stockpiled and I'd unlocked a few engineers. I gave up half way through December and, in spite of having a whole week off at the end of the month, I didn't even flash Elite up. I just couldn't face it any more.
For most of the last four years I've put in a couple of hours a night, two or three times a week. Not exactly a power player, but not 'casual' either. Now I'm watching ED videos instead of playing- what kind of saddo does that?It's over a fortnight since I last played and I don't have any particular urge to change that.
Each completed mod has been a revelation. The Python is transformed. I really can't express how much of a difference the engineering makes- it's vastly more than finally installing 'A' class modules when I started the game.
But that's just hacking me off. It's painfully obvious just how pants stock ships are compared to engineered ones. I've got a whole fleet of vanilla ships that are a real struggle to just survive in. I don't mind running away every now and then, but the AI is balanced against much tougher kit than I'm flying. I can see where the 'git gud' crowd are coming from- my partly engineered Python is just melting AI opponents! But I'm about as 'gud' as I'm going to 'git', my fleet needs a ton of work and yeGodsinHeaven I'm burned out just getting one of them up to scratch!
I'd love to try out some of the newer ships, but I know that stock, even 'A' rated, they'll be easy pickings for dumb as a brick AI with ridiculously strong weapons and shields. It's not about skill, or lack thereof, the game's set-up is suffering from power creep. I wouldn't object to that, if engineering to the new standard wasn't such a massive pain in the posterior for me.
Am I looking at this all wrong? Is engineering actually a fun activity that I'm just not 'getting'? [uhh]
Didn't see an exit poll requesting my opinion. Got any evidence to support this?Answer = no. No one actually likes Engineer gameplay as designed. But it is what it is. Some folks like vegemite so...
Another post by someone who: A. Has not read the thread, and B. Thinks everyone else thinks the same way he/she does! Good grief.....Answer = no. No one actually likes Engineer gameplay as designed. But it is what it is. Some folks like vegemite so...
Problem could easiky be solved with giving 5 resources per node instead of 3.
Still a grind, but not hours and hours and hours....
Still a grind, but not hours and hours and hours....
Hmm, I could go with that suggestion. Engineering my 4th ship now (a Krait 2, just bought it last night), and I am actually starting to run out of mats, which is a first.... I think it's time for a trip out into the ģreat void, or maybe some bounty hunting... awesome!
I was flying my new Krait 2 thru a few missions today just to test it out, and to find somewhere that sells A rated mods, and I found a HGE. Don't see them too often! I was chuffed. Is this gameplay? It's a game, I'm playing it, I'm having fun......
Since the exchange rate is 6:1, upping the drop rate to 6:1 seems more appropriate.