Does anyone actually enjoy engineering?

[quilvein]

Well, I'm definately in a minority here because I love the engineering part of the game. Folks hate the grind but I don't find that much different to anything else in the game if you want to max out with something. Well, perhaps mining, something I would avoid at all costs if possible!

If there is anything I would change it would be the material traders (better known as rip off merchants!!). But they can keep their existing "prices" for me but I would enable the sale of all materials to them (or a similar trader). A sort of Void Opal financial gain for the collectors of especially G5 materials. That is the only thing I miss. Pretty much everything in ED has a monetary financial gain somewhere, whether trading, exploring, combat, PP etc. so why not engineering?

Engineering is just like anything else, once you get used to it then it becomes relatively easy to find most things, especially using third party sites such as Inara for example but that is just my own humble opinion of course and I conceed we are all different but at my age it just doesn't seem the grind that many are making it out to be.

Denis.

 

[lecorsobreton]

I can't say that I enjoy it, especially the various steps to unlock them, but they are useful. Some blueprints are too powerful too, as it makes the other technologies we unlock a bit underwhelming.

 

[ElectricFactory]

This is exactly what I did, Engineered my way to G5 FSD and shields and then it was adios amigos to the Engineers.
I don’t feel as strongly as the OP on the topic but I do get it. Having gotten the ship improvements I really wanted/ needed to play ‘my game’ I saw no reason to continue engineering. I should also mention pew-pew isn’t in ‘my game’, if it were I’m sure I’d feel differently about the engineers.

I finally got my G5 dirty drives. I have G5 FSD. If I can get to G5 with my shields then I'm done with engineers. It's a blight on the game. I can just return to doing the things I enjoy.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

I hate that it crept into the environment. I mean it was forseeable: "Buhuhuu - the game got too easy. AI is pushover". Yea, guess what - when you juice up your gear to 11, what did you expect. Now we've ended up engineered environment, randomly spawning happily just like in vanilla.

 

[Northpin]

I still enjoy engineering. Even after 17 ships fully engineered and several others more or less engineered

What i would really like is to have a reliable way of restocking the materials without resorting to a relog fest.

• Raws are pretty ok, but we really need so more locations with Crystalline Shards (including somewhere near Colonia). And a spawn for Selenium
• Manufactured need a more predictable way of getting them also some improvement in spawn rates especially for IC and MSC
• Encoded are really bad. We have basically one material farmable at Jamesons through a relog fest and one material obtainable by doing missions
  • Datamine Wake Exceptions are quite a pain to get - could use a more reliable way of getting them - still scanning wakes is an easy and clear task.
  • ACED, CSF and PSFS are worse and they really need someone to revise them

 

[[VR] M4st0d0n]

I agree, it is really rather poor form to use 'cancer' to describe part of a computer game you don't like. And I am Dutch, we practically build our entire system of profanity around it. But we have this unwritten rule that states that you should have the decency to pick a disease that is mostly irrelevant in our region in modern times for such trivial issues as computer games, and only bring out diseases and conditions that still affect many people today when discussing major issues. So anyone willing to embrace this, what I consider polite disease-related-profanity-etiquette, please refer to Engineers as 'absolute typhoid fever' or 'complete tuberculosis', if your opinion is on the negative side.

In term of game design, engineering is like a rectal prolapsus sprinkled with smegma due to violent meteorism. Happy Google pic time folks.

 

[Troopi]

In terms of game design, engineering is like natural childbirth aided by a plumber with barbecue pincers.

 

[lecorsobreton]

I still enjoy engineering. Even after 17 ships fully engineered and several others more or less engineered

What i would really like is to have a reliable way of restocking the materials without resorting to a relog fest.

• Raws are pretty ok, but we really need so more locations with Crystalline Shards (including somewhere near Colonia). And a spawn for Selenium
• Manufactured need a more predictable way of getting them also some improvement in spawn rates especially for IC and MSC
• Encoded are really bad. We have basically one material farmable at Jamesons through a relog fest and one material obtainable by doing missions
  • Datamine Wake Exceptions are quite a pain to get - could use a more reliable way of getting them - still scanning wakes is an easy and clear task.
  • ACED, CSF and PSFS are worse and they really need someone to revise them

The mat gathering could be streamlined by having, for example:

• raw mats as rewards for mining missions (or similar)
• manufactured as rewards for combat/trading missions (it already is the case)
• encoded for scanning/courrier type missions.

etc.

Distribute all the mats according to rep/difficulty and people should be happy.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

Engineers is not a grind - it's just Surprise Disappointment

 

[Rat Catcher]

Engineers is not a grind - it's just Surprise Disappointment

Half right
Engineering is not a grind - getting materials for engineering can be picked up in normal gameplay. (and Materials traders can skin you for exchanges!)
Engineering is not essential - unless one insists on playing in open, in or near hotspots... but Engineering does make positive changes to ships way beyond just pew-pew.

The only issues are:

1. Wanting everything engineered to G5 now!
2. Disliking the creep of engineering immensely while being powerless to do anything about it

I don't grind for materials - I'll never do that as it would make a game I like tedious! (others can do whatever they wish)

If one has such a severe issue with engineering as to loathe it - simply don't and play as one wishes without sullying one's self

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

Half right
Engineering is not a grind - getting materials for engineering can be picked up in normal gameplay. (and Materials traders can skin you for exchanges!)
Engineering is not essential - unless one insists on playing in open, in or near hotspots... but Engineering does make positive changes to ships way beyond just pew-pew.

The only issues are:

1. Wanting everything engineered to G5 now!
2. Disliking the creep of engineering immensely while being powerless to do anything about it

I don't grind for materials - I'll never do that as it would make a game I like tedious! (others can do whatever they wish)

If one has such a severe issue with engineering as to loathe it - simply don't and play as one wishes without sullying one's self

Nope, engineering is essential. Try shooting the hardened AI with your nerf guns. I mean it's possible - but fun is something different.
And mats cannot be picked up via normal gameplay - that is a myth. Ashenfox has just another thread about it.
There is also nothing positive about moving goalposts by introducing power creep and not leaving vanilla gameplay viable.

 

[zimms]

@Ratkatcher
Playing Elite is also optional.

 

[Northpin]

@zimms you should get a non-engineered eagle, slap some frags or whatever weaps you favor, drop at a nearby nav beacon and have a brawl with wanted locals
i had a blast. well not me, them locals

 

[Brrokk]

Nope, engineering is essential. Try shooting the hardened AI with your nerf guns. I mean it's possible - but fun is something different.
And mats cannot be picked up via normal gameplay - that is a myth. Ashenfox has just another thread about it.
There is also nothing positive about moving goalposts by introducing power creep and not leaving vanilla gameplay viable.

Mats can be picked up in normal gameplay. Carry collector limpets and scan the ships you meet.

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

Mats can be picked up in normal gameplay. Carry collector limpets and scan the ships you meet.

Nope, you have to chase them if you want to get anywhere. And if you pew with the vanilla peashooters you will want to get anywhere pretty soon.

 

[Rat Catcher]

@Ratkatcher
Playing Elite is also optional.

Never a truer word said

I opt to play it quite often...

Over my 2 accounts, naturally

 

[Rat Catcher]

Nope, you have to chase them if you want to get anywhere. And if you pew with the vanilla peashooters you will want to get anywhere pretty soon.

Depends on one's play style, I guess.

 

[Brrokk]

Nope, you have to chase them if you want to get anywhere. And if you pew with the vanilla peashooters you will want to get anywhere pretty soon.

So I must be imagining the stacks of stuff in my materials storage then.

 

[WinterKing2112]

@Ratkatcher
Playing Elite is also optional.

Heh heh, I wish that was true, but I am hooked, can't give it up!

 

[WinterKing2112]

Nope, engineering is essential. Try shooting the hardened AI with your nerf guns. I mean it's possible - but fun is something different.
And mats cannot be picked up via normal gameplay - that is a myth. Ashenfox has just another thread about it.
There is also nothing positive about moving goalposts by introducing power creep and not leaving vanilla gameplay viable.

Mats cannot be picked up via normal gameplay? I'm picking up mats after bounty hunting, when I'm mining, when I'm on planet surfaces, there's stuff just floating there in space for God's sake! What are you on about?!?!