Don't get an FDL (unless engineered it seems)

Wait,
Fdl is a good ship because it is more difficult to kill ships in it than in a vulture ?
Well, so the Viper schould be still better.
Flying backwards you can also kill everything ;)
 
FDL requires heavy pip management. It pitches like a lead sled unless you throttle down to the blue zone and put 4 pips to engines. The medium hardpoints have poor convergence and the huge hardpoint has a very limited field of fire.

Since you like the Vulture, try an FAS... basically a Vulture on steroids.

I looked into a FAS, but the rank grind put me off, even though I'm already midshipman. Is it really that much better for the price. Don't like feeling like I wasted credits.
 
Tsk tsk, what a shame I did wonderful in the fdl before I engineered it don't out turn them just biweave tank. it's not a waste of credits at all it is the best combat ship in the game

Before I engineered the distributor to g3 charge enhanced so I could run efficient beams, I ran 4 pulses and a multi and of course vulture is easy mode but you have to engineer it too or you can't put anything on it because the pp is so weak fdl is way more fun no doubt
 
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Tsk tsk, what a shame I did wonderful in the fdl before I engineered it don't out turn them just biweave tank. it's not a waste of credits at all it is the best combat ship in the game

About tanking.....it kinda doesn't last that long (at least the shields). Then again, maybe I needed bigger alpha weapons.

Side note, ok, I made a rant thread guys, please don't take it too seriously. But thanks to those who pointed out my flawed logic on the FDL, and why my playstyle fits better with the vulture (or maybe the FAS too). Just wanted to point this out.
 
See that's where I must of gone wrong, using an FDL like a vulture. Sounds like the FDL loves PAs and railguns, not lasers and multicannons, but correct me if I'm wrong.

FdL likes almost any wep you fit into her. It's not her pure luck that she's the best combat ship in the game. Just have to practice and get the feeling. Keep your throttle in the blue whenever possible. Use FA-off and Boost to change movement vectors fast. Whislt the FAS is arguably more fun to fly and a bit easier, more comparable to the Vulture, she can't pack the shields the FdL can.

Forget about "wasting money", make it all fun, and try both eventually.

With long pants or naked, respectively.
 
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About tanking.....it kinda doesn't last that long (at least the shields). Then again, maybe I needed bigger alpha weapons.

Side note, ok, I made a rant thread guys, please don't take it too seriously. But thanks to those who pointed out my flawed logic on the FDL, and why my playstyle fits better with the vulture (or maybe the FAS too). Just wanted to point this out.

5a sheilds with a few boosters you can get about the same strength as an anaconda you can run 6 on the fdl and have 1097ish shields and can be dramatically increased with GRADE1 and 2 if you want pure Mj count for some grid resistors a few Conductive components and phosphorus, materials you should have laying around, will get you to 1400 strength

I'm not taking it too seriously everyone has an opinion I'm just trying to convince you to love and keep it
 
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The FDL is my favorite ship in the game for combat and pirate hunting, but I started engineering it right off the bat, and I don't really remember how it performed prior to the upgrades. Certainly don't remember not being able to out-turn Pythons, and it's definitely more maneuverable than my Anaconda. Combat against a highly agile opponent (Vulture) does require keeping the throttle in the "sweet spot", using thrusters and the occasional reverse throttle. Running 4 Med MCs and 1 Huge gimballed burst laser.
 
See that's where I must of gone wrong, using an FDL like a vulture. Sounds like the FDL loves PAs and railguns, not lasers and multicannons, but correct me if I'm wrong.

I use gimbals and turreted, turreted lasers to burn their shields, 4A multi-cannon to hammer their hulls, I find the FDL good for assassination and pirate hunting missions, but not much else, but then I've got a Conda for pretty much everything else.
 
FDL is amazing!

Running mine with 2x Packhounds, 1x 4A MC and 2x 2D Beamlasers, all guns gimballed. It drifts nicely, which can be abused quite well with proper FA usage.

When flying you need to stay in the blue throttle area alright and toggle the FA on and off regularly while also using your vertical thrusters frequently. And versus fast/nimble ships the reverse thrusters work literal wonders.

FDL is my prime choice as designated combat vessel, because it is so damn good, tough and exceptionally fun to fight in. Though with this one you really have to learn and practise how to fly it properly.
 
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Yeah it is strange, but Vulture to FDL is a really difficult vertical upgrade. They fly completely different. Have you witnessed the “stall” with the FDL? It has been a while since I have flown it, so I cannot describe it exactly other than to say that you’ll know it when you see it.

If you stick with it and use vertical thrust (think y axis up and down instead of pitch) you’ll keep things in front of you more, which means your class 2s and that Corgi-esque instrument hanging off the bottom of the ship will shred everything.
 
Try a G5 Vulture with overcharged fixed pulses.
My G5 Fdl gets rusty in the hangar.

If i get bored with the Vette i take the Mosquito.
 
Try a G5 Vulture with overcharged fixed pulses.
My G5 Fdl gets rusty in the hangar.

If i get bored with the Vette i take the Mosquito.

I just posted in another thread how the vulture is my favourite small ship....why did I ever sell it? Seriously, no offense to anyone but I'm getting it back, I've realised how much that ship had an impact on me.
 
I just posted in another thread how the vulture is my favourite small ship....why did I ever sell it? Seriously, no offense to anyone but I'm getting it back, I've realised how much that ship had an impact on me.

Don't sell it.
Nowadays you can make the creds for a fully fit Vulture in an hour.
 
I have a minimally engineered FDL right now, and it eats pythons alive. The higher-rank condas like to get into a jousting match, and I currently can't face-tank that. The highest engineering I have is a g4 FSD, everything else is g1 and g2.

About to get a vulture just for the heck of it though.
 
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I have a minimally engineered FDL right now, and it eats pythons alive. The higher-rank condas like to get into a jousting match, and I currently can't face-tank that. The highest engineering I have is a g4 FSD, everything else is g1 and g2.

That's about how mine is m g5 upgrades are on the mc and distro
 
See that's where I must of gone wrong, using an FDL like a vulture. Sounds like the FDL loves PAs and railguns, not lasers and multicannons, but correct me if I'm wrong.

I ran an unengineered huge beam and multicannon FdL for months about a year ago. It used to be pretty much the default loadout.

But the FdL does not fly like a vulture.

One of the funniest forum post (be it unintentionally) was a bug report on the FdL that it stalled in turns. Well, yes. It does that, but it's not a bug. It just flies differently.
 
You need to be much busier on the pips in the FdL - the thruster performance difference between 0 and 4 pips is the widest in the game. Turning with less than 4 pips to ENG in the FdL is more accurately described as "not turning much at all."
 
The Fer De Lance is very, VERY drifty. Even if you point your nose at 90 degrees, it takes a very long time for your momentum to catch up. The trick is to use that downside as an advantage in battle. Learn to control it, and you can almost constantly have your nose at the enemy whilst controlling your momentum in completely different directions. The FDL really comes into its own if you can master flight assist off, so I would encourage you to at least give it a chance by teaching yourself at least some basic maneuvers with fao.
 
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