Sorry, but the money's too good!
Dump the medicine.
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I have personally delivered enough of the pathogen...I mean weapons components to ensure the next part of the story proceeds. 
I wonder if they realize that doing this is actively hindering the ax community from getting a new weapon developed
Its not though, its a modified weapon + a lore based device.
Not to mention, its extremely dodgy constructing a prototype weapon via subterfuge and testing it out in such a way. If it is based on the Guardian Demon Core and people die its going to have an ongoing moral dimension to its use.
To be fair I doubt it’s going to be better than the genuine Guardian gauss we have at present, but time will tell
To heck with that noise! I'm getting my guardian guns as a reward for helping out AGAINST THE THARGOIDS. Don't get in my way, don't start none and there won't be none.
Stay in your lane.
Stay in your lane.
Question for the OP. What right do the Thargoids have to Guardian artifacts? I'll give the answer. No more than we do. So why on Earth or any other ELW should we just let the Thargoids have Guardian artifacts?
I agree with quite a bit of the OP, but on this point the logic is flawed. I have been assisting Salvation here, as this weapon seems little better than what we already have, if at all. It is certainly not the same as Mycoid or any other chemical warfare. If the Thargoids are merely reacting to human interference in their affairs, they would not be chasing every Guardian artifact in the galaxy. They would merely be chasing us away from the Pleiades, Witch Head etc. They are not. They are entering our space to steal artifacts that actually belong to any surviving Guardians or Guardian AI, not to them. Nor to us. So in this respect, neither we or the Thargoids can take the moral high ground. Should the Thargoids turn out to actually be the Guardians, then the OP's logic works. Otherwise, it doesn't.
And no, I think the probability of the Thargoids being Guardians, or working with the Guardian AI is vanishingly remote. But it's the only way the Thargoids could be said to have a right to Guardian artifacts.
I agree with quite a bit of the OP, but on this point the logic is flawed. I have been assisting Salvation here, as this weapon seems little better than what we already have, if at all. It is certainly not the same as Mycoid or any other chemical warfare. If the Thargoids are merely reacting to human interference in their affairs, they would not be chasing every Guardian artifact in the galaxy. They would merely be chasing us away from the Pleiades, Witch Head etc. They are not. They are entering our space to steal artifacts that actually belong to any surviving Guardians or Guardian AI, not to them. Nor to us. So in this respect, neither we or the Thargoids can take the moral high ground. Should the Thargoids turn out to actually be the Guardians, then the OP's logic works. Otherwise, it doesn't.
And no, I think the probability of the Thargoids being Guardians, or working with the Guardian AI is vanishingly remote. But it's the only way the Thargoids could be said to have a right to Guardian artifacts.
Yes, none. I'm not saying we should let them have them, my ideal solution to this would have been to clean up the mess that's drawing them in. But neither Aegis nor Salvation appear interested in the cause, hence this post. I should have been clearer - when I said the Thargoids are "taking back what's theirs" I meant generally with regards to the meta-alloys and other Thargoid tech. These are what they are aiming to retrieve with most of their attacks, breaking open the cargo bays to search for it when they detect the signals they give off. They just destroy Guardian tech, so if nothing else they will eventually clean up the mess for us to some degree. Provided nobody blasts the system with radiation first, anyway.
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I see a lot of complicated words defending or attacking Thargoids or Salvation but my reasoning is much simpler than that.
Me down bad for Thargoids. Me like alien snu snu.
Me down bad for Thargoids. Me like alien snu snu.
Your choice of who to accept the money from, though, this is hardly the most lucrative opportunity. And the gun can be obtained another time, regardless of if we get a good outcome here or not. But that's your choice, even if you don't think it's a choice.
I delivered a few thousand tons yesterday. The new gauss cannon is likely to be a massive heat generator so I doubt it will be all that useful but I want to try it anyway. If Salvation is a guardian AI then launching a massive radiation bomb that kills both humans and goids at the same time would be consistent with its programming. Destroying a few thousand humans to knock out a massive chunk of their main fleet is certainly consistent with cold machine like logic.
The thargoids have always been aggressive. The guardians had trouble with them millions of years ago and likely any other sentient species that appeared since then was also wiped out as well. "You stole my space cabbage" is not a valid reason to launch a war and kill millions of people. The thargoids are as intelligent as humans and are capable of opening negotiations with us but they choose not too.
The thargoids have always been aggressive. The guardians had trouble with them millions of years ago and likely any other sentient species that appeared since then was also wiped out as well. "You stole my space cabbage" is not a valid reason to launch a war and kill millions of people. The thargoids are as intelligent as humans and are capable of opening negotiations with us but they choose not too.
There are numerous discrepancies with the Guardian's account and the reality of what we see, indicating that the Thargoids they saw may not be the same as the Thargoids we are seeing. And there is more too it than just cabbage, after all we did invade their territory and fail to recognise their attempts to ask us to drop the stolen cargo. They even give you a grace period and warning lights. Certainly it's not ideal communication, but then we haven't managed that either, or to this day officially recognised the criteria that causes a Thargoid to attack. Or maybe Aegis heard and chose not to listen.
But a more concrete topic is certainly the killcount you mentioned. All evidence we have suggests the kill count is extremely low for the damage caused. They are holding back, despite everything. Another inconvienient discrepancy that Aegis never investigated about the Thargoid Menace.
I love this initiative OP. It may not have an effect on the story progress but the roleplaying is adding interest to an otherwise standard event.
Curiosity has gotten the better of me though so I'll be making deliveries but I'll be doing them in open to take part. well, at least until I get tired of dying.
Curiosity has gotten the better of me though so I'll be making deliveries but I'll be doing them in open to take part. well, at least until I get tired of dying.
My ears were pricked by news of a Hammer Gauss . . . until I found out it involves space trucking an unspecified amount of cargo.
My ears were pricked by news of a Hammer Gauss . . . until I found out it involves space trucking an unspecified amount of cargo.
I read it as any amount will be sufficient (even 1T).