Dump the medicine.

They are entering our space to steal artifacts that actually belong to any surviving Guardians or Guardian AI, not to them. Nor to us. So in this respect, neither we or the Thargoids can take the moral high ground. Should the Thargoids turn out to actually be the Guardians, then the OP's logic works. Otherwise, it doesn't.
Whoa. There are surviving Guardians?
An ancient AI can own something? It has been lying around for many, many years. I picked it up (so have many others). Come and take it from me (from us), I say.
If the Thargoids turn out to be Guardians, they're stealing from themselves? That logic works?

Twisted. My brain hurts...

I like the attempt at adding a perhaps unforeseen (by story-plotters) twist to the story, OP.
 
from a practical standpoint: wasting time and credits X getting a new experimental gauss cannon, come on
Those that don't engage in AX content have effectively no need for Guardian weapons, and it will be obtainable later via Tech Broker.

it will be war anyway no matter what we do , there's no alternative with the Thargoids , the guardians tried to communicate with them before and look what happened to them , maybe if there was another thargoid specie/clan/faction who might be intersted in talking, sure ,but with the one we're dealing with ? we gonna need those new AX weapons.
Ram Tah told you this, the man who sells the anti-Thargoid guns. Apart from the obvious conflict of interest there, he's not exactly the most reliable of narrator having worked with Aegis. Remember, there's no actual proof of what he's saying, one man with an agenda is simply saying it and everyone blindly believes instead of going, "uh hang on a minute."
 
I work full-time++ and provide well for my family. You are confusing vidya, which is meant for entertainment, and work ethics. I don't play vidya in order to work.
I can't believe there are people playing Elite Dangerous who unironically say this......

And bear in mind, we are still only talking 5 minutes here in this particular game. I can't think of anything else in this game that takes 5 minutes to earn bar really early game ships.
 
Do these 'medicines' count as normal cargo? You could get someone to buy the stuff on a carrier and offload it later rather than destroying it outright. It might also encourage people to shift it to you if they think there's more profit in it.

OK, maybe offloading dodgy crates of Guardian 'medicines' on random factions might not be the best idea. I suppose you could always just use the carrier to stockpile before destruction.
 
There are numerous discrepancies with the Guardian's account and the reality of what we see, indicating that the Thargoids they saw may not be the same as the Thargoids we are seeing.
I'm not really sure what you mean by this to be honest. Some guardian monoliths require tissue samples from each thargoid variant except the Hydra. So presumably they had the basic same interceptors we have now. On the other hand they are governed by queens so its logical some could be more aggressive than others. This means their entire species cant be held accountable for their actions and is why I dont believe in genociding them.
And there is more too it than just cabbage, after all we did invade their territory and fail to recognise their attempts to ask us to drop the stolen cargo. They even give you a grace period and warning lights. Certainly it's not ideal communication, but then we haven't managed that either, or to this day officially recognised the criteria that causes a Thargoid to attack.
Again they are millions of years old and we are thousands. On the grand scheme of things we are children compared to them and in nature the burden of responsibility always falls to the adults because they simply know better through experience. Therefore it is their responsibility to communicate their intentions in a way we can understand.
Or maybe Aegis heard and chose not to listen.
Well really according to several of the books they have communicated with some humans in the higher up ranks like the club and various scientists. Two way communication is possible; but for whatever reason the average player isnt privy to that.
But a more concrete topic is certainly the killcount you mentioned. All evidence we have suggests the kill count is extremely low for the damage caused. They are holding back, despite everything. Another inconvienient discrepancy that Aegis never investigated about the Thargoid Menace.
See I just dont think that's correct. Not counting the station that litterly fell out of its planetary orbit earlier this year because of an attack they may not deem total annihilation to be the most effective way to wage war. Essentially the starport is effectively destroyed when its rendered inoperable and the inhabitants have to evacuate or they will die. Its possible that completely destroying a starport to dust is far too time consuming and effort when a strategic strike will do the job just as effectively. Plus you dont want to hang around for reinforcements to arrive. Let's say theres this person you really really hate and he owns a store. You decide you hate him enough your going to destroy his business. What would be the better option? Roll up and throw a Molotov cocktail through his window or use a sledgehammer to break down each of his walls. Obviously the sledgehammer approach isnt good because it's way too time consuming and you have a much higher chance of getting caught as it will take hours to do that. The MC will essentially have the same result though the building structure itself could be repaired afterwards.
 
society if everyone spent 5 min in boring tasks:
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imagine having to explain why you don't want to spend your own time on game ativities that you find boring, for internet strangers

that's a patient cmdr
 
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I'm not really sure what you mean by this to be honest. Some guardian monoliths require tissue samples from each thargoid variant except the Hydra. So presumably they had the basic same interceptors we have now.
Yes, it doesn't necessarily have to be a whole new species. Some lore from the official novels would support the theory that it's a different faction of Thargoids, or it could simply be that the situation is different after a million years, facing a race that has already beaten them once before.

As for the inconsistencies themselves, there are quite a few behavioural ones, differences in their aggression and whatnot, but the most concrete one is deliberately written into GalNet. Here is one of Ram Tah's comments on the Guardian logs:
"If the Thargoids adopt the same modus operandi as with the Guardians, their next move will be to start aggressively mining mineral resources. There is no evidence this has yet begun, however.”
And it still hasn't happened. It's an odd detail to include if you just take it at face value, and even odder to specifically point out that it hasn't happened. One contradictory detail written in, not even included in the original Guardian logs, to imply that the Thargoids aren't using the same tactics. And if they're not using the same tactics, what else is different?
Therefore it is their responsibility to communicate their intentions in a way we can understand.
Well really according to several of the books they have communicated with some humans in the higher up ranks like the club and various scientists. Two way communication is possible; but for whatever reason the average player isnt privy to that.
Exactly - they have communicated. But those with that information hide it from us, when having that intel available would allow us to prepare infinitely better, no need for inefficient manipulation that often just doesn't work. No need to engineer unneccesary conflict and death to incentivise militarization when you could just...tell people what is coming, and to prepare. But they're arrogant. Also, it's another discrepancy with the Guardian's account of events. Either the Guardians lied about the outcome of their communication, or we're dealing with a different group of Thargoids, either scenario casts a lot of doubt on the Guardian account.

See I just dont think that's correct. Not counting the station that litterly fell out of its planetary orbit earlier this year because of an attack they may not deem total annihilation to be the most effective way to wage war.
The Oracle is an interesting point, but I'm not convinced it wasn't a bug. And even if it wasn't, it was one station out of...however many hundreds the Thargoids have attacked, and I don't think that would indicate anything other than extremely bad luck for the Oracle rather than a deliberate tactic. If they've been trying to knock them out of orbit, they're doing a really bad job of it.

The low death counts are recorded on GalNet while Frontier simultaneously give much higher death counts to the NMLA attacks, despite using the exact same assets. Supporting evidence was also given in the very first station attacks with another low body count.
Footage from starport security feeds indicate that the Thargoid ships used their shutdown fields to neutralise station defences before targeting the main reactor. One eyewitness said, “It’s like they wanted to cripple us rather than destroy us outright.”
But really I only mention that as evidence against it being an arbitrary number. I think that your theory is unlikely given how effectively the Thargoids are able to carry out these attacks - I doubt complete annihilation would take meaningfully longer, or that reinforcements would be able to arrive in time or pose a threat. But since that all happens during the Thursday maintenance, it's hard to prove or disprove it for certain. We'd each be arguing for a different interpretation of why they want to "cripple" us, or the station.

So in that case, I think examining their intent behind the attacks might be more useful in determining why they don't go for the kill. Here's the article regarding the Gnosis attack:
“There’s no doubt that we would have been destroyed if not for some of the Commanders travelling with us. They lured the Thargoids away while ejecting meta-alloys from their holds. The aliens were more interested in scooping up the meta-alloys than attacking us.
I believe that the attacks are the result of the Thargoids searching for stolen cargo. Destroying the station would be counterproductive to that, if nothing else. It also fits with the behaviour we actually can see, how they scan your cargo and then let you go if you don't make any funny moves. On top of that, several ingame logs detailing the distress signals that Thargoid tech can send out, and how Thargoid tech is often found in the wreckage of ships, only to then be scooped up by the attacker. They're there for the cargo bays, which you can see ripped open on the attacked stations.
 
We're asking that you don't scavenge for them. Destroy whatever he gives you.
If you're serious about this, move your carrier to Cornsar and offer to buy the cargo at a competitive price, so that it won't reach the people it was meant for.

Edit: Ah, I see someone else had the same idea. I should have read the whole thread before replying.

Edit #2: Even better, park the carrier not in Cornsar but right next to the megaship that is selling the goods.
 
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My assumption it will lead nowhere is predicated on nothing in the past having led to anything. Anyone who has paid attention, as you put it, knows that nothing FD does in ED ever leads to anything. I'd be thrilled to see it change, but your assertion that I "might realise is does all lead somewhere." is not at all based in reality.



It would be awesome if we had a Thargoid war with real consequences, for once. I'd suddenly be logging some hefty hours once again.
It has led us to where we are now. Or am I deluded and there's nothing happening? OK...
 
Whoa. There are surviving Guardians?
An ancient AI can own something? It has been lying around for many, many years. I picked it up (so have many others). Come and take it from me (from us), I say.
If the Thargoids turn out to be Guardians, they're stealing from themselves? That logic works?

Twisted. My brain hurts...

I like the attempt at adding a perhaps unforeseen (by story-plotters) twist to the story, OP.
I didn't say there were surviving Guardians - I said there might be, that we haven't encountered. We have no idea what's in the permit locked areas. And the Guardian AI certainly survived the demise of the Guardians. I see no reason to assume it/they is not still active. In which case, of course it can think it "owns" something, assuming the Guardians had the concept of personal property.

I completely agree that the OP is to be applauded for the action. I disagree with it (I think!) but I applaud the engagement and the attempt to develop the storyline.
 
It has led us to where we are now. Or am I deluded and there's nothing happening? OK...
I think what they were referring to was impact and consequences. You can quite easily ignore all this stuff and continue playing just fine, as there is no real danger. And are there actually any consequences if it's all pre-determined anyway?
 
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