Easy fix for carrier hostage:

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"Your Pilots' Federation District permit has been revoked. In exchange you have been issued a Get Out of Jail Free card. Use it wisely."
 
Yes but we don't live in a fantasy world.

I'm offering a practical and realistic solution.

You know I'm not wrong.

I feel like anyone new enough to get tricked into mining slavery would not figure out this method of escape. Try to remember being that new.

The punishment has already deterred anyone trying this in the future, probably.
 
I feel like anyone new enough to get tricked into mining slavery would not figure out this method of escape. Try to remember being that new.

I was never that new, after many years in a society where I observed other people being taken advantage of by charlatans and frauds I have developed a keen sense of understanding that almost no-one gives you stuff for nothing, always check the fine print, ask for advice, seek help from more experienced people, in this case players, ask questions. Sure everyone gets caught unprepared at times, but if you get caught up in such an obvious scam it's not a matter of simply being new in the game.
 
I was never that new, after many years in a society where I observed other people being taken advantage of by charlatans and frauds I have developed a keen sense of understanding that almost no-one gives you stuff for nothing, always check the fine print, ask for advice, seek help from more experienced people, in this case players, ask questions. Sure everyone gets caught unprepared at times, but if you get caught up in such an obvious scam it's not a matter of simply being new in the game.

But apparently some are that new. It would be nice to teach people to prevent or solve their own problems, but the majority will just petition authority to punish someone else for their mistakes. FD have already set precedent by punishing people for creating bad publicity for them, so this solution probably wont happen. Shame too that the rescuing fleet carriers are now just out of the picture. Would've made a nice follow-up article, but then stories about cats being rescued from trees don't generate as many adclicks.
 
Sweet jebus, people are still talking about it... Nice solution, but what if someone doesn't want shipyard in their FC, like AT ALL? There's not much reason to have a shipyard in most FC builds anyway, eh?

As for solution, folks who got stuck like that, could, you know, wait for another FC to appear in the system and ferry them all back? Like it happened very soon? Baddies that captured them also stated (in Discord iirc) that there was pretty big FC traffic going on. Some would definitely have no docking restriction. Why those poor "slaves" didn't jump ship is very curious question.

The biggest mystery here, is that when you start out with ED, for at least first 3 months, you spend a lot more time tabbed out in google than in actual game. Hell, even after years, I have like 15 tabs open at all times, to do some basic stuff. Because there's almost zero-zilch-nada useful info or much needed functionality available in-game, thus pretty much everyone is forced to use outside sources. It's given at this point.

How these "newbs" managed to play game in "blind mode" and didn't even try to google on how to get unstuck is worth freaking investigation... That not to mention that any relatively experienced player can mine x100 times faster and much more efficiently than 100 newbs, even if their life depended on it. I don't see any reason to do what they did, other than for poo poo and giggles. Feels like everyone overreacted HARD here, especially certain "journalists"...
 
Sweet jebus, people are still talking about it... Nice solution, but what if someone doesn't want shipyard in their FC, like AT ALL? There's not much reason to have a shipyard in most FC builds anyway, eh?

As for solution, folks who got stuck like that, could, you know, wait for another FC to appear in the system and ferry them all back? Like it happened very soon? Baddies that captured them also stated (in Discord iirc) that there was pretty big FC traffic going on. Some would definitely have no docking restriction. Why those poor "slaves" didn't jump ship is very curious question.

The biggest mystery here, is that when you start out with ED, for at least first 3 months, you spend a lot more time tabbed out in google than in actual game. Hell, even after years, I have like 15 tabs open at all times, to do some basic stuff. Because there's almost zero-zilch-nada useful info or much needed functionality available in-game, thus pretty much everyone is forced to use outside sources. It's given at this point.

How these "newbs" managed to play game in "blind mode" and didn't even try to google on how to get unstuck is worth freaking investigation... That not to mention that any relatively experienced player can mine x100 times faster and much more efficiently than 100 newbs, even if their life depended on it. I don't see any reason to do what they did, other than for poo poo and giggles. Feels like everyone overreacted HARD here, especially certain "journalists"...
dude i started last month and I have already 120 hours on the game since the start I've probably spent spent more time research crazy but fun as hell 💯
 
I was never that new, after many years in a society where I observed other people being taken advantage of by charlatans and frauds I have developed a keen sense of understanding that almost no-one gives you stuff for nothing, always check the fine print, ask for advice, seek help from more experienced people, in this case players, ask questions. Sure everyone gets caught unprepared at times, but if you get caught up in such an obvious scam it's not a matter of simply being new in the game.

Even at 7 which is the age for Elite Dangerous, would you have spotted a scam so easily ?
I know at 7 I was much more gullible than I am now. And more impressionable to bullying.
But that was 47 years ago and times where a lot less PC, and bullying was considered character building.
Much like how gankers say "I am helping them learn" now.

When a game is set for such a low age group the protection for the online interactions has to be strict.
But it is strange that Frontier have done nothing about ganking for so long and yet have taken this stance with a non violent scam.

Its an interesting situation :)
 
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All carriers have a shipyard by default with a Sidewinder available to buy at 0 credits, with no option to disable this facility.

If held hostage, player can buy Sidewinder, self destruct, respawn in Freewinder in bubble, and have real ship transferred back with existing mechanics.

Boom. (Literally) No more hostage cases.

Depending on how far these carriers are away it might be cheaper to suicide the "real" ship than pay transport costs.
 

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But apparently some are that new. It would be nice to teach people to prevent or solve their own problems, but the majority will just petition authority to punish someone else for their mistakes. FD have already set precedent by punishing people for creating bad publicity for them, so this solution probably wont happen. Shame too that the rescuing fleet carriers are now just out of the picture. Would've made a nice follow-up article, but then stories about cats being rescued from trees don't generate as many adclicks.
I don't know but is feeding a search engine with a few choice words, such as "Elite Dangerous stuck in system" too much to ask for? If it is, how do these people get through life?
 
When a game is set for such a low age group the protection for the online interactions has to be strict.
But it is strange that Frontier have done nothing about ganking for so long and yet have taken this stance with a non violent scam.

Its an interesting situation :)

Ganking is part of open existence. You live it, learn from it, avoid it (or lack critical thinking, and start writing psychology essays about people).

Slave carriers are the same exact thing. With an interesting spin on the existing features of the game. Nothing wrong about it, shouldn't warrant ban.

It goes without saying, but hate speech shouldn't be part of Elite. As much as 7 year old children shouldn't play a videogame with drugs, slavery, and murder involved.

But yeah, I agree. Definitely an interesting situation. Fdev is full of surprises.
 

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Suppose another question is how many children are playing Elite Dangerous as opposed to say Fortnite/Overwatch et al - I'd hazard a guess that the majority of players are middle aged neckbeards, not little kids - beyond basic pew pew I can't see today's children with usually rather short attention spans who are used to instant gratification play a slow burner game like Elite beyond a couple of hours before they get bored. Unless a neckbeard father decides to make their kids slaving away grinding credits on their behalf ;)

(I don't have a neckbeard, nor kids ftr)
 
Suppose another question is how many children are playing Elite Dangerous as opposed to say Fortnite/Overwatch et al - I'd hazard a guess that the majority of players are middle aged neckbeards, not little kids - beyond basic pew pew I can't see today's children with usually rather short attention spans who are used to instant gratification play a slow burner game like Elite beyond a couple of hours before they get bored. Unless a neckbeard father decides to make their kids slaving away grinding credits on their behalf ;)

(I don't have a neckbeard, nor kids ftr)
Im going to hate being around in the next 50 years and having to listen people in my age group say the same things about the next generation like its a new take that hasnt been repeated since man was able to have kids
 
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