If you’re leaving ED after todays news, I’m curious what fallback games are you going to? I like and play NMS and looking forward to Starfield. I have GTA V coming for series S next week and have been playing a bit of Elden ring. Just curious what other games might be worth looking into either already released or coming soon.
ED on Consoles just died official
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If you can look beyond the disappointment salt factor for the moment:
To be fair, SE has Newtonian physics and semi realistic graphics. But lacks a true proc gen universe. Both NMS and EGS have proc gen universes. But are no where close in graphical realism like ED (or X4 to a good extent).
SC is the only ultra realistic space sim. Yet sadly appears to be indefinitely suffering from arrested development in alpha/pre alpha purgatory to date. And lacks a proc gen universe ED/NMS/EGS have. And additionally, the realism of a Newtonian physics mechanic that ED/SE have
All other space games like KSP etc. vary within range of these popular titles. However
The fact they finally came out and officially indicated this gen ED has reached its operational capability (from game engine? server? dev team? limitations) is commendable. They haven't tried gas lighting the fan base by peeing on its leg and insist that it's raining. This sort of accountability and honesty is much appreciated and actually refreshing for a change.
The fact FDev was at least able to add landable planets, space legs and upcoming FC interiors was a vast evolution from where the game started at release.
So IMO, ED appears to be the best rounded space sim. No other dev on the market has a stable/functional and Newtonian Physics realistic working simulation of the Milky Way galaxy like FDev to date. And it appears this gen iteration of the franchise is as good as it's going to get...
Definitely Starfield when it comes out, Tiny Tina wounded land and at this very moment Elden Ring which I’m having a blast.
Personally, I'm not leaving as ED seems the best well rounded space game to date (at least from PC perspective with ability to use minor cosmetic mods). Sadly will be retiring my XBX CMDR and transferring over to PC.
Up to this point, been keeping myself distracted on Sol/Terran based games in my Steam library. RPGs & sandbox games the likes of RDR2/Skyrim/Fallout/The Sims/FS22/Medieval Dynasty/ESO/CP2077 etc. while awaiting the long hoped for Odyssey update on console. But now this is officially off, I'm definitely shifting focus more on my indispensable terran/land based legs here on Sol
But will still keep a wistful vigil gazing up at the stars from my Sol based games. And when the primitive urge to be a space faring murder hobo/civilized nomad/space admin dictator becomes overwhelming, I'll board the first stratospheric bound vehicle headed into the void. Return to check in on my home bases strewn across my galactic SE/EGS/NMS/X4/Stellaris empire
edit: and yeah Starfield. If this turns out to have the drama of corporate espionage and deep RPG of The Outer Worlds, with a space Fallout New Vegas-esque open world environment, I'd be in nirvana. I'd even settle for the superficial RPG depth of a Skyrim in space at this point
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(1) The console servers are not being shut down
(2) Consoles aren't getting Oddy (and never were anyway, as stated in all previous posts by FD on the subject)
We have every reason not to believe anything Frontier promises. The Mac version was discontinued, the console versions will be shut down as well. Not today, not tomorrow, but in a few month or a year or so. They will probably merge Horizons and Odyssey on PC, have a unified code base and then the old console codebase will be thrown out. They said repeatedly that they don't intend to upkeep two different versions of the game. Cancelling console development essentially means stopping the service altogether.
I'd expect another massive departure when EDH/EDO will be merged (if and when of course) because hardware requirements are far away... I can run EDH on a 4-5yrs old notebook, but EDO is totally unplayable on that. So either they'll give up / abandon Horizons completely and focus on what's left of Odyssey. Let's be honest, game is 8yrs old, achieving a break even (from a business point of view) on consoles for Odyssey was a mission impossible, given the failure/cringe launch of EDO on PC and I believe they had some numbers saying that most players would be interested in buying EDO for consoles only at low/budget price (if not interested at all). I guess they're barely floating over the break even on PC as well...
Same for PC players using Horizon. Read the statement carefully, they will only develop ONE codebase.
It isn't just consoles. Many PC players dont have the ability to play Od either.
I agree, this is the end of Elite. They will cashcow it for now, and stopping all Horizins work is part of that (PC and Consoles), then just release stuff in pipeline for Od and stop.
I feel certain that this marks the beginning of the end for all console Elite players, as they will turn off the whole thing at some point in the not too dim and distant. It will be costing them something to run and we won't be giving them revenue. So this is the last death rattle of console Elite. Anyone thinking that we will have what we currently have in a few years' time is in cloud oo land, sadly.
Just a guess, but maybe you enjoyed playing the game? While very disappointing, an end to development doesn't invalidate all the fun that has been had up to this point.
If you've spent even 10 hours playing you've had as much value from the game as many single player FPS games' give. And got better value for money than many other forms of entertainment.
(eg, half hour in a squash court costs me over £5 a time now :/ )
Don't get me wrong, I would be perfectly content with keeping playing Horizons on Xbox in its current form. If Elite remained like this for the next ten years, I would still play it. Exploring the galaxy, taking part in applicable CGs, winging up with friends, enjoying my ships and such. But my fear is that this oppurtinity will be taken away from us soon as well, for whatever reason.
That's also my fear. I mean when I was younger in the late 90s it was completely normal to buy a game and don't expect any updates at all. So I'm still happy with current horizons, as I was from the first hour playing this game.
Sad thing is just that this game is dependant on the frontier servers and can't be played fully offline. Otherwise I wouldn't care that much about the announcement.
Imho canceling further development for consoles is just another nail in ED's coffin.
Through the last years ED has only lost popularity and Odyssey was a huge blow on top of that.
I wouldn't be surprised that further development of ED as a whole will stop entirely eventually because it takes to much resources without making enough profit.
Frontiers downfall in shares speakes for itself.
I think Frontier has some serious management problems, why can so many other (much smaller) developers do what Frontier can't, release their game on multiple platforms.
It's a lack of competence, perhaps not by the devs but in managment.
Mr Braben had a vision for ED and that vision was the golden rule, whether it was doable or not, whether players agreed to that vision or not.
So many features requested by their playerbase time and time again have been totally ignored while other features nobody asked for were bolted on, features that got practically abandoned even after implementing them because players didn't like them, multicrew for example.
What a waste of resources and development while with proper management ED could've become so much more.
It's sad realy and pittyfull.
Through the last years ED has only lost popularity and Odyssey was a huge blow on top of that.
I wouldn't be surprised that further development of ED as a whole will stop entirely eventually because it takes to much resources without making enough profit.
Frontiers downfall in shares speakes for itself.
I think Frontier has some serious management problems, why can so many other (much smaller) developers do what Frontier can't, release their game on multiple platforms.
It's a lack of competence, perhaps not by the devs but in managment.
Mr Braben had a vision for ED and that vision was the golden rule, whether it was doable or not, whether players agreed to that vision or not.
So many features requested by their playerbase time and time again have been totally ignored while other features nobody asked for were bolted on, features that got practically abandoned even after implementing them because players didn't like them, multicrew for example.
What a waste of resources and development while with proper management ED could've become so much more.
It's sad realy and pittyfull.
Yeah, it's not only about Odyssey, although that's a big blow in itself as well. It's about losing Elite completely on consoles. Because the next "statement" could very well be that Frontier disables ARX purchases on consoles and they give us a date for "discontinuing" the service. Always this excuse of "moving on" and "providing the best for our fans" but it's really just sugarcoating. They don't give a damn about us, they looked at balance sheets and graphs and made this decision according to them. A service-based game like this simply can't exist without updates and regular upkeep. They will quickly become bored with "critical updates" as well and just pull the plug completely. I wouldn't be surprised if they already had this scheduled only they don't want to tell us yet, not risking an even bigger outrage.
Totally agreed... they just stockpiled stuff over and over, just believing in the mantra "if we put this in the game, players will use it".
The original sin is that not many of them play the game... and the beta testing has been in practice a put they exercised on the player base.
Don't acept the warning, I pay for this game, I pay for the arx and I was scammed by Frontier. I lost 7 years of console play only to find out it was all in vain. I want a refund
I am more than aware of this, but discovering that I have spent time and energy for 7 years and it was all useless makes me angry. All the engineers and modules unlocked, the money made, the fleet carrier bought and the three trips to sagittarius A, all with no future. Not because the game is over but only because they decided to no longer support my gaming platform but they wanted my money, and the money for the arx too. I've never been so angry about a video game before.