EDO numbers aren't actually as bad as I thought

I'm hoping some might come along later, as that will save me from inciting some sort of social discombobulation, a hulabaloo if you will?!
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Dunno, before Odyssey (yes i check for schaudenfrodo reasons like a jilted lover), numbers were always above 10k, sometimes (but rarely it's true) as good as 12k. Whenever i look now, they are averaging around 6-7. By my calculations they've lost about a third of the player-base, then again, it is true i can only count to 10 thanks to my fingers and thumbs. 20 if i take my socks off.
We're roughly back to pre-alpha Odyssey (the official one) numbers. Which is still better than the pre-carrier doldrums.

I figure a lot of people will come back around the console release when framerates are back to Horizons levels and the more heinous bugs are fixed.
 
That's just Steam, a subset of a subset... I know that metric isn't the full picture... so went looking for others... probably accurate as a ratio, but I know enough about community analysis to know you can't project that shift as a given/accurate picture
rofl you trust a site that posts based on 'sentiment' and do not trust the chart of the main platform that hosts the game on pc.
 
Steam Charts are no more reliable than "Online Sentiment"

The truth is, nobody but FD really knows the health of the game. To speculate on it is to simply project either your pessimism or optimism on numbers you do not and can not fully understand.
 
rofl you trust a site that posts based on 'sentiment' and do not trust the chart of the main platform that hosts the game on pc.

if,… maybe
that sounds like trust to you? And, not saying they’re right, but an equation based on X level of positive reviews typically generates Y percentile of owners actively playing an MMO could be a knowable metric.

certainly not much worse than taking a metric that is estimated to represent less than 30% of ED users
 

if right, while not great, these numbers aren't super bad (especially considering the sad state of the game and the weirdness of so much effort spent on a worse UI and not AI crew in cabin, planetary issues etc.).

maybe not quite a crisis mode for FDev?


tl;dr: They're not. #facepalm
 
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That's not a great metric of player count either. All it says is how many people are playing at the same time on steam, it certainly doesn't mention the amount of people playing in total.
It's the best one we have, the others are just trying to get clicks on their site by offering magic numbers they couldn't possibly know. If before Odyssey, i looked at steam stats and saw 10k players pretty much all the time, and now i'm seeing 6-7k players all the time, then that's good enough for me to assume that they've lost players.
 
It's the best one we have, the others are just trying to get clicks on their site by offering magic numbers they couldn't possibly know. If before Odyssey, i looked at steam stats and saw 10k players pretty much all the time, and now i'm seeing 6-7k players all the time, then that's good enough for me to assume that they've lost players.
I never said they had not lost players, I'm sure they have. But we don't know what the player base is.
 
"The Players and Daily login numbers are estimations based on subscriber numbers and online sentiment."

Doesn't seem to be that reliable a metric!

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I don't know.

"Online sentiment" is always the first thing I check when... when anything!
 
Steam Charts are no more reliable than "Online Sentiment"

The truth is, nobody but FD really knows the health of the game. To speculate on it is to simply project either your pessimism or optimism on numbers you do not and can not fully understand.
Well no, because steam charts look at actual player activity on the steam games. It's a real metric for the steam playerbase...
 
That's not a great metric of player count either. All it says is how many people are playing at the same time on steam, it certainly doesn't mention the amount of people playing in total.
The Steam charts are the only real contemporary data we have. It represents a statistically signignificant proportion of all players. The Steam players are no different to other players. If 75% of all Steam players that were playing immediately after EDO release are no longer playing, we can make the reasonable assumption that around 75% of all players are no longer playing, and if there are the lowest number of Steam players playing since Oct 2019, we can deduce that there is also the lowest number of all players playing since Oct 2019.

The data in the OP is completely misrepresenting the present situation. It's not clear at all what time-scales are involved and probably includes data from May when the highest number of players ever were playing immediately after EDO release, but, according to the Steam chart, many of those players soon stopped playing and the total number per day has ramped down rapidly and is presently decreasing at the rate of approximately 10% per week.
 
The Steam charts are the only real contemporary data we have. It represents a statistically signignificant proportion of all players. The Steam players are no different to other players. If 75% of all Steam players that were playing immediately after EDO release are no longer playing, we can make the reasonable assumption that around 75% of all players are no longer playing, and if there are the lowest number of Steam players playing since Oct 2019, we can deduce that there is also the lowest number of all players playing since Oct 2019.

The data in the OP is completely misrepresenting the present situation. It's not clear at all what time-scales are involved and probably includes data from May when the highest number of players ever were playing immediately after EDO release, but, according to the Steam chart, many of those players soon stopped playing and the total number per day has ramped down rapidly and is presently decreasing at the rate of approximately 10% per week.
You can't tell that from that metric. They maybe playing less, but still playing..as they are playing less, the concurrent numbers will go down.

Numbers have gone down, we just don't know how much.
 
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