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SergMx

SergMx
Ian Doncaster said:
If we're just talking about a ship that's a big set of cargo canister racks (volume 2m^3 per canister) with a few engines and thrusters around the outside then it could carry 200,000t of cargo in that physical cuboid space. The larger ships have so much internal volume spare on paper that even a box the size of a Type-6 could hold several thousand tonnes of cargo.

Obviously the catch there would be that it couldn't move because the maximum mass on 8A thrusters is only 5040t (and the thrusters themselves take 160t of that, then add on fuel, hull, other core internals, etc.). With the requirement for it to be able to move at all with 8E thrusters, a ship with a total normal [1] mass over 3360t is probably not possible.

[1] You can with ridiculous choice of engineering blueprints make a Cutter which exceeds the maximum mass of 8E and 8D thrusters (though I think you can't quite exceed the maximum for 8D while the 8D are fitted to the ship) but that is very definitely not normal.
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The game is full of conventions. They can make a ship weigh 10 tons.
 

Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
Neilski said:
Is there a good reason to assume that the PC isn't the reason for class 9 modules to be created?
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Probably only that it's not necessary? The larger ships with a full cargo-rack fit in the optionals tend to have about a quarter to a third of their laden mass in the cargo itself (assuming standard A/C/E mass core internals, unengineered) with the freighter types being closer to a third.

So if an 8E thruster can handle 3360t, that would still allow a freighter with a maximum capacity over 1000t and maybe as high as 1200t without the rest of its internals or hull mass being in any way unusual.
 

Neilski

Neilski
Ian Doncaster said:
So if an 8E thruster can handle 3360t, that would still allow a freighter with a maximum capacity over 1000t and maybe as high as 1200t without the rest of its internals or hull mass being in any way unusual.
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Yeah, that's probably how it will play out (given that even 1000 t is a big enough leap for FD to legimately call it a big deal) but I am one of those hoping for 1500 t or more :)
(Another person a few days ago asserted that there was zero chance of class 9 modules being created, but I didn't remember to query why they believed that.)
 

Rat Catcher

Rat Catcher
Neilski said:
(Another person a few days ago asserted that there was zero chance of class 9 modules being created, but I didn't remember to query why they believed that.)
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Weren't me, Guv...

Why should C8 be the largest possible module size? (and why does the C8 FSD have a listing?)
Up until the PC II enters the game, no ship was designed to fit a module larger than C8, so, like the oddball FSD, there was no purpose for them to exist in plus sizes...

If it is the behometh it appears to be, then introducing new module sizes (say C9 & C10) to give the ship maximum utility makes a good deal of sense.
 

ClagMaster

C
Vardaugas said:
I'm still going with my estimate of:

1024+256+256+128+32+32+8+8+4+2+2 = 1752t

But I am not afraid of being proven wrong.
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My estimate is there will be two additional 512t cargo racks, so 1752t is reasonable. But given the volume of this vessel, as pointed out to me, 4x that of an Imperial Cutter, this could possibly be increased to 3200T. I expect maybe a new class of engine (Class 9) and FSD (Class 8) and Power Plant (Class 9 or two Class 8) is available for this vessel to handle this massive weight.
 
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