with p2p the more folks in the island it uses exponetially more bandwidth,so finding a trick to beat that dead horse will be an amazing trick...
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with p2p the more folks in the island it uses exponetially more bandwidth,so finding a trick to beat that dead horse will be an amazing trick...
I am willing to bet, despite not knowing anything about your background, that the combined experience of the devs is greater than yours and that they are neither incompetent or delusional
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and in all the years that p2p has been around and used youd think 1 company/ dev/anyone..... would have found a way to make it do what they are trying to make it do.
it was used back in the day......on a much smaller scale and it was both hack prone and inefficient then.......but magically that is to be avoided.........sorry it was a bad choice plain and simple.
sorry Micheal i adjusted the first post
Yes.
Falcon 4:Allied Force (P2P & Client/Server hybrid) was apparently handled in a similar way as ED.
Keep in mind that it is not purely P2P, it's a hybrid where many things are also moderated and handled by the server.
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Viajero
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Re p2p I am still trying to get some guidance on:
- minimum recommended upload bandwidth requirements? I have several friends so far put off because they think this will be an issue.
- also some members of the community claim certain ISP are putting or will be putting limits to p2p traffic.
Any specifics from devs or the community on these will also be appreciated.
- minimum recommended upload bandwidth requirements? I have several friends so far put off because they think this will be an issue.
- also some members of the community claim certain ISP are putting or will be putting limits to p2p traffic.
Any specifics from devs or the community on these will also be appreciated.
please tell me more about how years ago you learned to associate a word you didn't know with something you didn't understand and how now you think that everything that has the word on it is bad.
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or maybe actually post how ya think they pull that rabbit outa a hat...oh ya you havent the first clue do you...fanboihood aside go head list the wonderous nature of peer to peer and its application on a massive level....im sure we all have a while why that fairytale is being written.
waitin ...all ears
I personally think your friends will have to wait when it's announced properly. Protocol is still in flux, and minimal requirements is still not practically known. It would be only fair.
ISP limiting peer to peer traffic is real deal. I think this was reason why FD collected ISP info some months ago. It is up to them to contact providers and and indicate that this kind of marked traffic is "good one".
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This are good questions. A big disadvantage of P2P is also that you can´t mail your provider if you have any routing problems with the connections.
On a centralized server with a trace route, they can fix a wrong or bad routing (I did that myself, it works). Also the ISPs have great routings to the big datacenters (like Frankfurt in Germany, a lot of gameserver suppliers are hosting there)
But the ISPs can´t fix routings between thousands of players from different countries and ISPs.
Viajero
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Yeah, fair enough. Would be nice for FDEV to state something along those lines if that was the case. Community members also stating their connections, and if they have issues or not, is good guidance.
The slowest player upload connection I ve seen posted here with "no issues" is a 1 Mbs upload so far.
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The universe is server based and transactions are server moderated. That is what Michael said. This means the rest is player based (P2P). Very cheap solution for Frontier.
Agreed, thats not the way how to make proper multiplayer. This is way to increase Frontier profits at gamers expense. Reminds me that xxxxxxx Activision.
Both C6 hardpoints on top of my conda are bugged again. This is the third time I have to sell it -.-
But also ensures the game keeps getting developed. Double edge sword.
Or maybe it's a way to make it possible to run a huge multiplayer game like this without a subscription fee...as they made clear all the way back when the KS was launched...
But no...let's go with "all companies are evil money grabbers" instead...that's a lot easier...
Agreed! To your 1st part that is
.But some feedback from staff about possible ISP throttling problems would be good, I'm with Virgin & IIRC I have read that they do throttle p2p!
No disagree
1.06 seems a bit more stable. Yes there is still the occasional soft-lock, but they happen less often. Now as long as the screen has not fozen completely, the game usually will come out/enter supercruise or hyperspace reliably (it's still a bit slow of course)
I think that many areas that caused crashes are fixed.
New market set-up has confused me. Now I am having to rework my routese, it's all changed. Who sells what?
Is it me or has there been a dramatic reduction in cost of Cobra? has anyone bought one recently it's cheaper than the Viper?
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