Ah, I see what you mean, what you buy WITH arx.
Then I am 100% with you, that's poorly managed.
Elite Dangerous Black Friday Event | Midnight Black Paint Jobs Now In Store!
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Then I am 100% with you, that's poorly managed.
Yeah - in ye olden days when we paid with real money we have proof of the purchase, now we have to use tokens the proof is not readily available to us. BTW Midnight Black were always a rip-off price:
That pricing shows what a great deal the promo for early buyers was:
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Yeah there's definitely been some changes 'under the hood'
I'd like to post a few images - but first I want to say I'm not trying to be a <censored word> to the devs, as they have my utmost respect, and Elite is the best game I've ever played. Secondly, I imagine it would be extremely hard to be a dev in Elite where everyone has wildly different and vocal opinions, and it's impossible to please everyone
I'd like to address a few of the points that CMDRs continually raise. I hope these will go towards inspiring positive changes in the future
The first issue is that the hangars are too dark to adequately assess paintjobs before purchase.
It's definitely possible to enhance the lighting in the hangars, as illustrated by the following two images. It was just a quick shader edit that took about 20mins, plus I had 3 pints of Guinness for additional challenge
Default hangar
Brighter hangar
The second issue concerns the changes to the Midnight Black paintjob, which has always been my favourite. @CMDR X posted comparison images that highlight the progression from Horizons 3.8 to Ody
I don't believe it's just a matter of upgraded lighting that's causing the different 'black levels', as a quick edit of the paintjob shader shows it's possible to achieve the same H3.8 midnight black in Ody
Default Midnight Black in Ody
Restoration of Midnight Black in Ody to look like H3.8
My ideal Midnight Black (slightly added reflectivity)
These mods aren't available, and I don't even use them myself. But if Fdev would like to employ me as a paintjob designer I would be very happy to work in Cambridge and leave the Aussie summer behind...
o7
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Yeah there's definitely been some changes 'under the hood'
I'd like to post a few images - but first I want to say I'm not trying to be a <censored word> to the devs, as they have my utmost respect, and Elite is the best game I've ever played. Secondly, I imagine it would be extremely hard to be a dev in Elite where everyone has wildly different and vocal opinions, and it's impossible to please everyone
I'd like to address a few of the points that CMDRs continually raise. I hope these will go towards inspiring positive changes in the future
The first issue is that the hangers are too dark to adequately assess paintjobs before purchase.
It's definitely possible to enhance the lighting in the hangers, as illustrated by the following two images. It was just a quick shader edit that took about 20mins, plus I had 3 pints of Guinness for additional challenge
Default hanger
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Brighter hanger
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The second issue concerns the changes to the Midnight Black paintjob, which has always been my favourite. @CMDR X posted comparison images that highlight the progression from Horizons 3.8 to Ody
I don't believe it's just a matter of upgraded lighting that's causing the different 'black levels', as a quick edit of the paintjob shader shows it's possible to achieve the same H3.8 midnight black in Ody
Default Midnight Black in Ody
View attachment 333895
Restoration of Midnight Black in Ody to look like H3.8
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My ideal Midnight Black (slightly added reflectivity)
View attachment 333898
These mods aren't available, and I don't even use them myself. But if Fdev would like to employ me as a paintjob designer I would be very happy to work in Cambridge and leave the Aussie summer behind...
o7
I'd still be very interested in what you did with the 'quick edit' to restore the black...
Even a vague pointer...
I'd guess using 3DMigoto to detect the shaders involved and modifying ... whatever a shader doI'd still be very interested in what you did with the 'quick edit' to restore the black...
His point is valid: if an user with a bit of knowledge can fix something in 20 minutes by "injecting" some change in the rendering process, how much would it require to the devs to fix it from the source, if they were willing to do it?
Even if they were, they don't fix the underlying problem, which is what everyone else sees when they see your ship. Granted, I'm sure plenty of folks get paint jobs for their selfie shots, but I think a lot of us paint our ships so other people can see them.
Or in the case of Midnight Black, not see them #stealth
I'd guess using 3DMigoto to detect the shaders involved and modifying ... whatever a shader do
His point is valid: if an user with a bit of knowledge can fix something in 20 minutes by "injecting" some change in the rendering process, how much would it require to the devs to fix it from the source, if they were willing to do it?
Indeedy.
I can blindly export the shaders, but which one is related to the paintjob and which bit to edit eludes me. I'm not a maestro like Georj...
Rotation, zooming, turning off the lights, it's all possible...
(Excuse the terrible quality of the video - I had to do terrible things to make it fit in the forum's 2 MB size limit.)
Back in the mid 1980s, before the F-117A was publicly revealed, there was much speculation around the existence of the (ever more likely fictional) F-19 Stealth Fighter, to the point where several plastic kit and toy companies released models of it much to the consternation of US politicians. I still have one on my shelf.
The Python, with various incarnations of body kit and black paints, has to me always been the ED ship that most resembles it especially with the canards and dorsal intakes/radiators.
Yours might be the closest yet.
As regards paint jobs, I'm just disappointed that my trip to the store to "fill in the blanks" on any Midnight paint jobs that I don't already own has reminded me that I already own them all, and have done since 2019. We need some more ships.
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Yup, you're right but as I said some postings before, that's not really "ingame" to me. Referring to paintjobs "ingame" to me means from the Livery section in the station menu and there one usually gets poor lighted hangars, bad viewing angles and no camera view at all... And that is the view one will see moreoften than leaving the game back to the menu...
Ymmv though
Technically, you're not wrong, but generally one is in livery mode when docked at a station, and that is some form of downtime, so being in the main menu or in game does not make much of a difference (with a few exceptions, like in multiplayer sessions).
I feel it would be much better if it was "in game", I concur but, all things considered, the workaround available is not that terrible and it makes me check all the unused paintjobs I have for ships I'll never own, or do some window shopping or planning for ships that I am about to set up.
Back in the mid 1980s, before the F-117A was publicly revealed, there was much speculation around the existence of the (ever more likely fictional) F-19 Stealth Fighter, to the point where several plastic kit and toy companies released models of it much to the consternation of US politicians. I still have one on my shelf.
The Python, with various incarnations of body kit and black paints, has to me always been the ED ship that most resembles it especially with the canards and dorsal intakes/radiators.
Yours might be the closest yet.
Maybe someone at FDev has one on their shelf too, and was inspired.
It's your BBC, lolThat is possibly the worst Photoshopped bald patch EVER.
They are standing by a Porsche it is quite possible the picture was taken and touched up decades before Photoshop was written.That is possibly the worst Photoshopped bald patch EVER.
I'm pretty sure all of the paintjobs were discounted, even the midnight black ones, but that seems to have stopped mid-browse? Some things are still discounted but no more paintjobs, or was I seeing things?
EDIT: just checked the initial post again, yes, they definitely should still be 20% off.. Ho-hum..
EDIT: just checked the initial post again, yes, they definitely should still be 20% off.. Ho-hum..
I have to confirm this... All discounts are gone... again... 
Herre gud, the same procedure as every year sale Ms. Sophie ? @sallymorganmoore ...
I mean, really ? Lately every sale is broken after one or two days ? Is this intentionally ? Just asking because I'm nearly convinced to not believe in coincidence any more...
Herre gud, the same procedure as every I mean, really ? Lately every sale is broken after one or two days ? Is this intentionally ? Just asking because I'm nearly convinced to not believe in coincidence any more...