Elite Dangerous is the Largest Empty Sandbox Ever Made

[Goose4291]

There's a world of difference between PvPers, and GSPers.

PvPers are fun to play with, GSPers are not. PvPers are interested in a good fight. GSPers are only interested in killing easy targets. PvPers are happy about the three modes, since they make it is easier to find a good fight in Open without arranging one ahead of time. GSPers wail and moan about how solo and private groups are "ruining" the game. PvPers are gracious in victory or defeat. GSPers combat log the instant you get the upper hand, and will harrass you all the way to the station if you outfly them, and then try to ram you to death.

GSpers claiming to be PvPers has been common for thirty years, but its a bit like stolen valor. It doesn't take long to tell they're full of it. GSPers claim to be filling a necessary niche in the game, but at the end of the day they're so poor at it, NPCs are more fun to play with. Given how poorly NPCs are fleshed out in this game, that's really saying something.

Congratulations. You just insulted the entire pirate community. Good we've come full circle back to 2014 where we're treating piracy as ganking.

Can you add some psycho-analysis to that too please?

 

[EvE4evah]

There's a world of difference between PvPers, and GSPers.

PvPers are fun to play with, GSPers are not. PvPers are interested in a good fight. GSPers are only interested in killing easy targets. PvPers are happy about the three modes, since they make it is easier to find a good fight in Open without arranging one ahead of time. GSPers wail and moan about how solo and private groups are "ruining" the game. PvPers are gracious in victory or defeat. GSPers combat log the instant you get the upper hand, and will harrass you all the way to the station if you outfly them, and then try to ram you to death.

GSpers claiming to be PvPers has been common for thirty years, but its a bit like stolen valor. It doesn't take long to tell they're full of it. GSPers claim to be filling a necessary niche in the game, but at the end of the day they're so poor at it, NPCs are more fun to play with. Given how poorly NPCs are fleshed out in this game, that's really saying something.

That's so silly… it's a cutthroat galaxy ain't it? Where exactly in the LORE or FDev's initial ideas about the game is it written that only CONSENSUAL PVP is allowed, incentivized or plausible? Pleeease… talk about imershum

 

[CMDR Pugwash]

There's a world of difference between PvPers, and GSPers.

PvPers are fun to play with, GSPers are not. PvPers are interested in a good fight. GSPers are only interested in killing easy targets. PvPers are happy about the three modes, since they make it is easier to find a good fight in Open without arranging one ahead of time. GSPers wail and moan about how solo and private groups are "ruining" the game. PvPers are gracious in victory or defeat. GSPers combat log the instant you get the upper hand, and will harrass you all the way to the station if you outfly them, and then try to ram you to death.

GSpers claiming to be PvPers has been common for thirty years, but its a bit like stolen valor. It doesn't take long to tell they're full of it. GSPers claim to be filling a necessary niche in the game, but at the end of the day they're so poor at it, NPCs are more fun to play with. Given how poorly NPCs are fleshed out in this game, that's really saying something.

I don't know what a GSPer is but they sound like a nasty bunch. I hope I don't meet one.

 

[ALGOMATIC]

You said you were having a little trouble, pointing out the disparity between 'these guys' behavior on the forum and they being 'morons'in the game. And I said, "it's a game".

Which means exactly that. It's an ar-pee-gee game. I can roleplay. I don't have to CARE or BE CONSIDERATE about any player's playstyle, very much UNLIKE Real Life(TM), exactly because it's a game.

What's your little trouble again?

Their trouble is one and only, NO SKILLZ, and instead of acquiring some in the game (some of them have 2000 hours and they still cant fly), they cry on the forums of "GANKERZZZZZ" and "STOP FORCING PEEVEEPEE ON MEH...", its an excuse for incompetence.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

LOL, no pvpier is happy with the 3 modes, because there is not even a single piece of content for this play style, when you come up with one you become a griefer (not that I care if I am one).

I was just told I don't have to care about other people's play styles. No PvPer is happy? There's trouble in the gypsy village.

 

[ALGOMATIC]

I don't know what a GSPer is but they sound like a nasty bunch. I hope I don't meet one.

GSPs are carebear hunters.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Their trouble is one and only, NO SKILLZ, and instead of acquiring some in the game (some of them have 2000 hours and they still cant fly), they cry on the forums of "GANKERZZZZZ" and "STOP FORCING PEEVEEPEE ON MEH...", its an excuse for incompetence.

Jason, this is where you come in.

 

[Dsign]

I read about player controlled/influenced things, but I'd rather have player to player interaction.
Simple trade, simple way to hire or pay someone to do something. Hopefully the Beyond series will focus on that, we already know about the coop missions, that's a start.

 

[ALGOMATIC]

I was just told I don't have to care about other people's play styles. No PvPer is happy? There's trouble in the gypsy village.

Thats ok, just dont cry about being ganked next time (well I know you are in SOLO, but the "you" means everyone)

 

[EvE4evah]

Calling them morons. It's a little less simple than that. I put it down to perspective.

Care to try again?

No, I don't. You're exactly where you've ever been. In the conservative, niche side of the playerbase, in the anti-emergent content brigade. And seeing as you're still getting tons of rep on these forums, the game ain't going nowhere far up from where it stands. Stuck. Well, have a nice ED experience… mine was awesome till a short time ago.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

No, I don't. You're exactly where you've ever been. In the conservative, niche side of the playerbase, in the anti-emergent content brigade. And seeing as you're still getting tons of rep on these forums, the game ain't going nowhere far up from where it stands. Stuck. Well, have a nice ED experience… mine was awesome till a short time ago.

Ziggy is far from anti-emergent content. He probably just wants good emergent gameplay like the most of us.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

No, I don't. You're exactly where you've ever been. In the conservative, niche side of the playerbase, in the anti-emergent content brigade. And seeing as you're still getting tons of rep on these forums, the game ain't going nowhere far up from where it stands. Stuck. Well, have a nice ED experience… mine was awesome till a short time ago.

Don't care. It's a game.

 

[verminstar]

It's so easy to understand really.

It's a game.

True it is a game...and the consequences of such things being hotel california. Tis a shame those who cry rivers of salty tears about cowards hiding in solo dont realize its just a game either...hypocritical much?

Not all pvp players are bad but fact is there are some bad pvprs...not from a skill point of view. Their groups declare they have zero interest in the bgs and they are here specifically to farm our tears and to gank...and yet we are now expected to take a suggestion on crime and punishment from the same players who stated they couldnt care less about crime and punishment seriously?

You jest surely? Haha ye couldnt make this stuff up pure comedy gold ^

 

[sovapid]

OK I lied, I skim-read it. It amounts to "we want to have a crime hub immune from the BGS".

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAno.

And this is why we can't have nice things...

I want to wage an indirect-PVP BGS attack on the Gnosis. How do I go about that?

Pretty sure I can't.

But I'm not really bothered. People that are into science stuff like the ship and good on them. I actually contributed to the community goal to get it created.

However, I'll never use it (most likely). Just think it is a step in the right direction for the game.

 

[Goose4291]

Don't care. It's a game.

...except for when group content gets mentioned

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

...except for when group content gets mentioned

Missing the point.

I wasn't expressing my sentiment, I was borrowing.

 

[Theodrid]

Their trouble is one and only, NO SKILLZ, and instead of acquiring some in the game (some of them have 2000 hours and they still cant fly), they cry on the forums of "GANKERZZZZZ" and "STOP FORCING PEEVEEPEE ON MEH...", its an excuse for incompetence.

Be honest, what bloody skill does it take to pop a parked up explorer vessel?, or wing up with three buddies in engineered to the nines FDL's and pop a multi role Python or trader T6?

Some of you bang on about 'skill' and 'cutthroat galaxy' yet go to great lengths to avoid any of that yourselves. Some of the PVP pilots in this game are very, very good at what they do but there is also a flock if pretenders who are taking the safe space, easy mode route as much, if not more than any solo player.

 

[sovapid]

Sure, explorers could have recruited other players to guard their ships - but again that wouldn't have worked well, those explorer ships would still have been blown up.

Have explorers ever tried this? How did it go?

And I'm not a huge fan of how the game works in this regard, but I blame FDev, not the players for the game mechanics.

 

[EvE4evah]

Anyway, sorry Ziggy, Genar et al. I got heated and a bit passionate, and a lot off-topic. I'll tone down.
We all love THIS game the way a man loves a hooker. She ain't faithful, she will cost you… but damn you just can't let go

 

[CMDR Pugwash]

GSPs are carebear hunters.

Carebears! In this game? I thought theyare an EVE thing. There aren't any factories, farms or whatever to care for in ED.