WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Pretty sure if there was a downvote button here on these forums. Id be the winner.
Elite Dangerous is the Largest Empty Sandbox Ever Made
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Pretty sure if there was a downvote button here on these forums. Id be the winner.
No, he's told you that specific aspects (like removal of the modes) aren't going to change.
That doesn't equate to the entirety of the game.
Perhaps you should question yourself as to "why" that might be?
There's a saying I'm fond of... "If someone calls you a horse, you can likely ignore it. If 50 people call you a horse, perhaps it's time to start wearing a halter."
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There was one several years ago. I got the mods to lower mine way down into the red just to see what effect rep had.
None, it turns out.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Well the whole equal game modes things is what needs to change for certain features of this game to work correctly. Especially when it comes to powerplay and the fleets that are coming soon. Fleets will end up just like powerplay is now if they dont make some sort of adjustments.
Because right now it is unacceptable.
CQC would have been pretty sweet too, but it needed a lot of front end work. The gameplay was fine. Id still love to play it. But people dont play it because people dont play it. If that makes sense. The biggest reason people dont play it though, is because you're rewarded with time spent playing it instead of skill, You're rewarded with minimal credits that apply to the main part of the game. Instead of using them to unlock modules for that specific game mode. Then we have the ranking ladder thats like the old COD ladders instead of a Scaling MMR ladder based off your skill, and working with a team.
People dont play it because they arent interested in it. People dont play it because every aspect of it feels like it was thrown together. Everything but the gameplay itself.
But I can turn around and get hundreds of upvotes on reddit
Like this one I made months ago, https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange...t_which_is_why_rewards_are/dfjqkl0/?context=3
You know looking back at that post, its almost as if they listened to some of the things I had to say.... Weird.
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'it's unacceptable'
That's another phrase some people don't understand.
That's another phrase some people don't understand.
Unacceptable to some people.... not everyone.
As to the modes and the inference of it "working correctly" it's all subjective- and what you've been told in the past is that it's working as intended, which is exactly as FD introduced it and validated many, many (many) times that ALL three modes are valid.
And we keep coming back around to PP is the problem- it affects VERY little of the actual concerns being raised by the PvP community.
The vast majority of concerns are the lack of players in Open and lack of "meaningful" content in PvP.
I accept that you find it unacceptable but I have managed to accept its unacceptability and am enjoying it except where I am unable to continue due to tiredness which I find unacceptable but have to accept my limitations and be accepted into the arms of Morpheus.
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and people are certainlly allowed to change their minds on things. it does not mean they were wrong before and now they are right however.
You're most likely right- and even if the modes DID change, it's not going to "magically resolve all the problems" in Open. The issues are MUCH deeper than that, and everyone knows it, too.
That's why every time there's a call to make it all one big happy Open universe, there's backlash.
Not sure if I take his advice serious after he hired Harry Potter to kill Salami.
is this true? it was all a set up?
Fully aggree to this. And the main problem for argumenting this is to explain why someone should be the others 'meaningful' content.
There is quite a bunch of players that do not insist of player interaction beyond the 'O7' if at all. I believe they won't need any hollow squares
at all. I confess I am part of these type of playerbase and feel good this way.
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Miklos
That's unacceptable!
*Hand over tinfoil hat* Yes.
woah there.... damn i have to go my lift awaits so am not going to be able to clarify as much as i would like, however...i have no beef with you 90skid, i disagree with much of what you say, and agree with some, but its all good in my book, i do not personally compare you to others in this thread.... who i do consider to be "the g word"
but, i never siad i do not play with the BGS, and i have been involved against player groups, one deliberately - - and one because a player group happened to get put in an area i feel strongly about.
some of this has been done in open (most of my sdc stuff was) but i never meant to imply i do not do bgs stuff outside of open....... if i came across like that i apologise. my point is tho, i DONT do stuff with the BGS in PG and solo because i am trying to hide... i do it because i generally dont play in open any more full stop.
look, if FD want to throw resourses at an entire new BGS and it be 1 mode only, so long as it does not affect the current bgs that is fine..... to me, doing bgs stuff in solo isnt cheating, even if it is against another group that i know players are fighting for. sorry if that offends.
And this I agree with. Leave the current BGS as it is and have something different for the "open" people. The most likely candidate would be to make that PowerPlay. Adding a third territory mechanic seems a bit overboard.
I don't disagree with this. I'm just highly doubtful that it's going to bolster the numbers in Open and create "meaningful" PvP as a result. I'd be glad to be proven wrong here... seriously.
The territory mechanic is an "EVE" thing. We all know where that path leads, too.
WorldsGreatestForumDad
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Alright, I was going off our conversation we had back in the day in another thread. I dont think someone like you or anyone else should be punished by taking away a part of the game thats not Player based. Thats all.
And I really try not to be a griefer although lots of people think I am. Just because I pvp. Hell some people think I am SDC, I get it all the time. But I've never went on a griefing spree or went to sag A or anything like that. Thought about it. But, Im not going to learn anything or get better killing some random trader dude.
However, Id love to see Traders be a part of the PVP experience. Ive done it. Its hard! But, man is it fun!
Traders to me when it comes to the BGS and Powerplay are very high value targets. They are the ones getting the job done you know. They are the most important role. And if any of this ever comes to fruit, Id probably spend most of my time being that trader.
A lot of us really just want the healthy outlet. And a lot of us dont want to be labelled a griefer or a ganker. Just because we fight for PVP activities in this game. We want it to mean something. Again they could add things, but when a lot of us fight for changes. We see the tools we have now. And the only way to fix what we have NOW, is to make the multiplayer part of this game restricted to open play.
The rest of the BGS, I could care less about. Just the ones with player owned factions within the systems. And powerplay. Thats it, not really a bad compromise in my eyes you know? Everything else would stay the same. Each Platform has OPEN play where they can play respectively. Most player factions have people on Xbox and Ps4 too.
So it could work.
When we spoke before, you were just interested in solo and doing your own thing. Not worried about any other factions and stuff like that. And there should be no reason that part of the game gets removed from you or anyone else. Again, just the ones with player owned factions in them and powerplay.
Powerplay should use my brilliant idea of Military and Civilian influence.
PvP and PvE
Together in perfect harmony
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